Hogan Made Wrestling

No, I really liked it.

Ebert gave Scorpion King 3 stars Actually 2.5 stars. Ebert and Roeper gave it a "slight thumbs down" meaning they fun it somewhat enjoyable but it wasn't good enough to recommend. The Rundown's reviews all seem excellent so far and I think it could be the surprise hit of the year due to word of mouth and the popularity of its cast from other roles.

Of course, given that O.J. did lose the civil case, that's barely even an exception.

This has already been discussed, there is no problem concealing tattoos for movies with makeup and/or digital film.

Certainly true, I was just trying to think of some analagous examples, since no obvious ones come to mind. Maybe Falwell vs. Hustler Magazine?

Most of the points here have been well-articulated (save for Eagan's but you can't expect much more from someone who posts almost exclusively in NHB and spends most of his time here in flame wars with Johnson1620) and I think everything that needs to be said has been. I can see the arguments on both sides of this issue and think there is something to be said for all of them. Personally I can certainly see why this would offend people and think it's in very poor taste, but at the same time it's such an inconsequential book that it's hardly worth the time to get offended over. It's not like this is the work of the Marquis de Sade or something. I think an interesting parallel situation that can be drawn from more modern entertainment is the movie "Barbershop". This is a mostly black comedy where Cedric the Entertainer plays a cynical, cantancerous old black barber, where he emphatically states that "all Rosa Parks did was sit her ass down on a bus", "Martin Luther King is a hoax", and "fuck Jesse Jackson". This was all played for comedy, of course, but Parks and Jackson didn't think so: Jackson protested against the movie (Ebert and Roeper made fun of him over this on one episode), while Parks refused to go to the NAACP awards because Cedric the Entertainer was the host.

TNA is 100% totally in the right here. Working for them is a job, not a right, for indy wrestlers, and if they don't want to follow TNA's rules then they can make the simple decision not to work there. And if they actually sign a written contract, they should know the restrictions that come with it. TNA's business is to make enough money to survive and eventually let themselves grow and expand, not to play nice with little indy feds who are of no consequence to them.

I like it a lot. Benjamin McKenzie (Ryan) is great, and everyone is picking up on the Russell Crowe similarity, both in look and in his subdued, smoldering style of speech. He's got a lot of potential for the future.

Yeah, because I mean, those Japanese feds that Goldberg worked for (and left voluntarily to go to the WWE) are just interviews and brawling... All two times? It's hard to judge by that large amount of working. The point being that if Goldberg wanted to, he could be working full-time in one of the major Japanese threads, which have both more and better wrestling than TNA does, so there's no fathomable reason for him to be "jealous" of them. This whole situation comes down to two things: 1. These fans are assholes who think repeating the whole ECW mutant behavior is going to "get them over". 2. Goldberg is the biggest mark in the entire business.

The commercials might not actually hinder the match at all, provided they cut out all the weak rest holds (chinlocks, etc.), lying on the mat, etc.

I don't know enough about Mumia, the details of his case, and what has come up in his appeals to really form an opinion. I will certainly say that there are better symbolic people for the anti-death penalty movement than him though.

Personally I think one of the things that is hurting/going to hurt Bush (and I may be wrong here - feel free to disagree) is one of the issues where he is completely in the right: the necessity for the USA to stay in Iraq and pump money into the cause. It just seems to me that many people, from all over the spectrum, see this 87 billion dollar figure and think to themselves "all I care about is getting rid of Sadaam, why do we (i.e. I) have to cough up all this money and see our troops die?". Most people here are sensible and agree that this is money that needs to be spent, but for people who are less politically aware and see a depressed economy, it might be the kind of thing they just can't understand.

Yeah, because I mean, those Japanese feds that Goldberg worked for (and left voluntarily to go to the WWE) are just interviews and brawling...

I enjoyed the show for the most part. A few points: 1. The video packages looked amateurish and were longer than they needed to be. Many spots seemed to be repeated over and over. One spot in particular that we saw too many times was a partially botched powerbomb from the ladder match that didn't look very good. 2. The first two matches were great, but they should have been spaced out over the course of the show. I can see what they were going for: introduce each major section of the show in one block (X-division, Raven-Douglas, and Jarrett-Styles-Russo), but mixing it up would have kept things from dragging on for too long. Having the best part of the show be the opening also exposed a lot of the mathces that came afterwards. 3. The video quality ranged from pretty good to really awful. I'm guessing that at some point TNA upgraded to newer equipment? Because some shots were clear and bright, while others looked like they were filmed on a cheap grainy camera. 4. I liked Mike Tenay, and hated Don West. West was like a combination of all the worst elements of Larry Z, JR, and Mark Madden all rolled into one. Tenay did a good job of calling the action, but hearing West sell an enziguri one minute in to the match like it was Owen nailing Shawn was painful. 5. The Raven-Douglas stuff was WAY too long. All the fire parts should have definitely been scrapped. Whether or not it happened before the Kane stuff, a lot of the audience you are trying to get tonight is probably new viewers who would have seen what happened on RAW, and they are just going to think "that's a bush-league copy of the Kane storyline" regardless of what the truth may be. And I think "Clockwork Orange House of Fun" is the lamest name for a gimmick match in history (I'm going to guess that Russo came up with it). On the other hand, the Ultimate X match was an excellent concept and was reasonably well executed. 6. The Jarrett-AJ stuff was much better, not running too long and recapping the feud nicely. Russo is way too involved though: at the end of the one of the matches, Russo had the belt and was jumping up and down with it in the air, and my brother, who had left the room for a few minutes, actually thought that Russo had won the title. I can see the point of the Russo-AJ pairing, but at the same time I think it hurts Styles more than it helps him. The AJ-Dlo stuff was good but nothing amazing. 7. The stuff they built up to was underwhelming: a hair vs. hair match and Roddy fucking Piper? Piper in particular has me scared of what kind of dumb shoot promo he is going to run off. Overall pretty decent and a good introduction to the main players and storylines going on. It was a lot better than most ECW stuff post 1996, and the basic foundation is good, just needs some work around the edges. Everyone here enjoyed it for the most part, with the X-division stuff getting the best reaction and the Raven-Douglas feud the worst.

Almost this exact same bump is to this day considered a highlight moment of the Raven/Richards vs. Pitbulls match.

Elimination Chamber: Vince McMahon vs. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Eric Bischoff vs. Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan.

NWA Dr Dre Ice Cube Easy E Tupac Shakur Eminem Ice T Snoop Dogg Beastie Boyz Public Enemy Timbaland Wu Tang Clan Puff Daddy Suge Knight

Easy: make another DVD later with even more matches. This is why fans do not make good business people.

Shit, best post of the thread right there, by a longshot.

Hogan and JMA, I think Marney and I have found a middle ground. We have shared different points of view and I learned from this. I simply do not want to go another three rounds, defending Reagan’s actions or other conservatives. But, given my unfortunate choice of words, in my first post about Clinton, I don’t blame you. Sorry. I can’t help but feel how lucky I am, we all are, that we live in countries capable of such great things. Where we all have a chance to be happy and prosper and then help others. How lucky I am that I am not sitting in a jail cell, blinded by hate and anger and disdain for life, like Moussaoui. Federal court or military tribunal, he is in jail and we are all perhaps safer. I'm not trying to blame Reagan for anything, I'm just pointing out that if you want to start pointing fingers for 9/11 at Clinton then they can just as reasonably be pointed even further back. No one is at fault for 9/11 except insane psychos like Bin Laden and his followers.

Van Gogh cut off his ear, not Picasso.

Using your reasoning for blaming Clinton, one could just as easily blame Reagan and Bush for not doing anything about the terrorist threat post-hostage crisis, and in fact equiping and training people like Bin Laden during the 1980s. Not that I agree with that, but it's the same thing.

This list is a disgrace pure and simple. Although at least they got #1 correct, which is more than can be said about most VH1 lists.

What I want to know is why people are getting all bent out of shape about Moussaoui having access to these people in the first place. He's going to get convicted in the end regardless, and all these motions are doing is delaying his date with a needle, which, while frustrating, is not that big a deal because in the mean time he's not going anywhere. And once this whole thing is over, the government can say "look, we gave him a fair trial and he was still convicted", giving them some deserved moral superiority they might not be able to claim if they sent him to a military tribunal. I really hope no one here is actually afraid he might go free. Even if he did, the CIA would have him lying in a pool of his own blood by sundown.