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Everything posted by cawthon777
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The angle was dropped.
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Wasn't the HIAC and Benoit / Kane leaked in radio commercials several weeks ago, immediately after Phoenix?
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Just an added note, there's a This Day in Mid Atlantic Wrestling thread over on Kayfabe Memories' message board. Plenty of useful info in there.
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Richard, Yeah, that would be great. Even if it takes a while to find out the taping dates and locations, the match results would be a big help. Here's an idea ... Until an actual website is created, how about - for those who are interested - go ahead and post some results in this thread. You get bonus points for details (finishes, times, managers, etc). Without having any tapes, magazines with me at the moment, I'll start on memory: WCW @ Baltimore, MD - Arena - August 2 (?), 1992 Cactus Jack defeated Ricky Steamboat via count-out Nikita Koloff fought WCW US Champion Rick Rude to a no contest when both Sting, who did guest commentary for the bout, and Cactus Jack interfered following a referee bump; after the bout, Jake Roberts made his surprise debut by coming out of the crowd, attacking Sting, and hitting a DDT onto a steel chair; as a result of the attack, Sting was taken out of his scheduled world title match later in the evening Ron Simmons (sub. for Sting) pinned WCW World Champion Big Van Vader (w/ Harley Race) with a powerslam to win the title; Simmons' name was drawn at random prior to the match as a stand-in for Sting WCW @ Baltimore, MD - Arena - December 1992 Big Van Vader pinned WCW World Champion Ron Simmons to win the title following a shoulder breaker Clash of the Champions - Milwaukee, WI - Mecca - January 1993 Chris Benoit pinned Brad Armstrong with a dragon suplex (Benoit's singles debut) WCW / NWA Tag Team Champions Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas defeated Steve Austin & Brian Pillman via disqualification when the referee saw one of the challengers hit Douglas in the head with a title belt, busting him open, as Douglas had a roll up cover on the other opponent; after the bout, 2 Cold Scorpio, Marcus Bagwell, and several others helped make the save for the champions WCW @ London, England - March 1993 WCW TV Champion Paul Orndorff pinned Michael Hayes with the piledriver Maxx Payne pinned Cactus Jack WCW US Champion Dustin Rhodes vs. NWA World Champion Barry Windham Davey Boy Smith defeated Rick Rude via disqualification Sting pinned WCW World Champion Big Van Vader to win the title after powerslamming the champion off the top rope WCW @ Dublin, Ireland - March 1993 Johnny B. Badd pinned Scotty Flamingo Van Hammer defeated Maxx Payne WCW TV Champion Paul Orndorff pinned Michael Hayes with the piledriver Davey Boy Smith pinned Vinnie Vegas with the running powerslam WCW US Champion Dustin Rhodes fought NWA World Champion Barry Windham to a no contest when both men began brawling on the floor before the match began Rick Rude pinned Cactus Jack with the Rude Awakening after Cactus failed a top rope attack Big Van Vader pinned WCW World Champion Sting to win the title with the powerbomb after the champion hit his head on the steel ring post while attempting a Stinger Splash
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Owen Hart, Jim Neidhart, and Davey Boy Smith were all handcuffed to a ringpost for the match.
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Of course they test. Not testing would land them in all kinds of legal trouble.
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I would be surprised to see Konnan in the WWF. He hasn't been that good in the ring since the late 90s and if I hear him cut another one of those in-ring promos he did every week in WCW I may kill myself. Vince fired him in 92 when he was Max Moon ... don't recall the reason. Also, he wasn't picked up following the buyout. I think that says something right there.
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Each and every one of the Kane / Angle matches from 01 - 02 were very solid. If that's any indication, Kane / Benoit should be a sure thing.
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Well if you just focus on Jim Crockett Promotions and don't get all caught up in Florida, Toronto, Georgia, etc then you should be fine. To do all the NWA territories at once would kill the average man.
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Andre has Hogan in a bearhug, IIRC, when the first tape ends.
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Credit: Wrestling Observer WWE house show report 5-15 Spokane by Mike Sweetser Coach came out and introduced himself as the announcer for the night, and led the National Anthem, which was interrupted by La Resistance. Hurricane & Rosey defeated La Resistance after a distraction by Eugene led to Conway falling prey to the old Three Count "Countdown" finisher - Rosey lifted Conway up in a Samoan drop while Hurricane executed a neckbreaker. A very straightforward tag team match, which really set the tone for the night. Christian, Trish Stratus and Tyson Tomko came out for an interview, where Christian claimed he suffered a back injury from the cage match on Monday night and had a doctor's note stating he could not compete tonight. Chris Jericho came out to rebutt and throw the usual names at Christian and Trish, which drew out Johnny Nitro to change the match for tonight to Jericho v. Tyson Tomko in a cage. Chuck Palumbo defeated Steven Richards with a big boot to the face. Steven really got the crowd going due to his tremendous selling of Palumbo's beatdown - pulling himself up on the ropes to get back up, bouncing off to try an attack, etc. Again, a very basic but effective match. Garrison Cade defeated Val Venis with a rollup thanks to a distraction by Coach, who was still at ringside. Not exactly a great match but it still had good heat, especially on Val's part. Matt Hardy defeated A-Train with a rollup - which was literally Matt's ONLY offensive maneuver throughout the short match. A-Train clubbered Matt in the corner but missed a charge in the corner, which let Matt schoolboy him for the pinfall. A-Train went bonkers afterward, throwing chairs into the ring. Batista defeated Shelton Benjamin by sitting down on a sunset flip attempt and grabbing the ropes for leverage. This was a surprisingly good match, especially on the part of Batista, who really stepped up his wrestling here. The crowd was going crazy for Shelton by the end. Shelton hit two Stinger Splashes and went for the sunset flip, which Batista sat down on, then grabbed the ropes over the referee for the pin. 10-minute intermission time, which gave the crew time to set up the steel cage - which they actually accomplished inside the 10 minutes. Interesting note: Mike Chioda was in charge of assembling the cage, and was standing on the top rope throughout to lock the cage sections in place. Chris Jericho defeated Tyson Tomko in a steel cage match by escaping over the top of the cage. Jericho held the match together as best he could, basically pinballing for Tomko. Christian stopped Jericho from escaping at one point and was ejected. Later on, Trish came in with a steel chair, but was caught and spanked by Jericho. Tomko attempted to escape, but Jericho caught him and rammed his head three times into the top of the cage, causing him to fall and allowing Jericho to escape. While the same crew disassembled the cage, Coach and the t-shirt guy started shooting t-shirts into the crowd, but were interrupted by Eugene, who took over the gun. Johnny Nitro ran out and apologized for Eugene's behavior, and took a shirt in the groin for his trouble. Victoria retained the WWE Women's title over Gail Kim, Jazz and Molly Holly in a Fatal Four Way elimination match. The three heels triple-teamed Victoria for quite some time until Jazz attempted a pinfall and was pulled off by Molly. A double pinfall on rollups (Victoria on Molly, Gail Kim on Jazz) made the match Victoria v. Gail Kim. Gail Kim executed the Christo but was sideslammed out of it by Victoria, who quickly put Gail away with the Widow's Peak. Randy Orton retained the WWE Intercontinental title over Edge with a tights-assisted rollup. Orton was WAY over with the women in the crowd, and especially played with a group in the front row, leaning back into them a la WCW Chris Jericho and even mooning them at one point. The match went back and forth with Edge getting the advantage later, nearly pinning Orton with the Edge-O-Matic. Batista came down and distracted Edge from hitting the spear, but got speared for his trouble. When Edge got back up, Orton rolled him up and hooked the tights for the pinfall. Trish came to the ring and made it clear she was very upset with the cage match tonight, and was looking forward to taking out Lita on Raw this week - but was interrupted by Lita coming down and jumping her. Johnny Nitro came back down and made the match official. Lita defeated Trish Stratus with a DDT. That's about the best thing to say about this match, as Lita was VERY sloppy throughout the match. Chris Benoit retained the World heavyweight championship over Kane via tapout to the Crippler Crossface. If this is the Bad Blood main event, you're all in for a treat, as this was a REALLY good match. The crowd was heavily into both wrestlers and went crazy any time Benoit was on offense. Benoit started by countering all of Kane's offense with takedowns and attempts at the Sharpshooter, but ran into a big boot and was dominated by Kane, who bent Benoit back against the ringpost at one point. Kane eventually got frustrated and grabbed a chair, but was German suplexed three times by Benoit. Benoit scored with two diving headbutts and locked in the Crossface, but Kane powered out of it with a sideslam. Kane went up top for the diving clothesline, but Benoit caught him into the Crossface again on the way down. Kane attempted to power out again but Benoit kept him down, and Kane finally tapped out. All in all, a VERY good house show and it looked like everybody left happy with the performance tonight. I think regardless of who Benoit is matched up against at the PPV, be it Jericho or Kane, we're in for a quality title defense.
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Eddie, Thanks for the response and I did get your e-mail as well. I'm out of town at the moment but when I get back and once you have the time to set a website up, let me know and I'll shoot you some info. I posted this on several other forums as well so hopefully enough people get interested so that this can be a doable thing. Jim Crockett Promotions and WCW from 91 to 01 wouldn't be impossible to do ... but all the NWA stuff that came before then would give any one man a headache if not a migrane. Graham
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They never held the US tag ... but the Steiners held all three at the same time in 91.
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I'm kinda surprised no one has started one up by now but I'm wondering what kind of interest there would be for an NWA / WCW results site similar to my own which covers the W/WWF/E. By no means am I offering to do it myself (I'm busy enough as it is) but I would be happy to help lay a foundation for whoever shows the drive and initiative to put a site together. I have a truck load of results from magazines, Observers, tapes, and the like and - given some free time - would be willing to share. Anyone? Bueller?
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McMahon announced at the start of the Raw 2 days before the Survivor Series that Savage had left and he wished him well. I can only assume Macho's last appearance was the Raw taping the month prior (10/17/94) ... either that or Savage worked the first two episodes of the November taping and then sat out the last ... which seems odd.
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I don't really think McMahon had any plans for him when he signed him. IMHO, it was just Vince getting off on stealing WCW talent out from under his competition's nose ... given the fact Haku was the WCW Hardcore Champ at the time just made it that much more fun.
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Off the top of my head, I think it was about a month until he appeared on TV as Brutus the Barber, facing former manager Johnny V during an episode of WWF Superstars.
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He went off to film The Waterboy. Don't be an ass
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I haven't seen too many shoots myself (Bret's 2nd and HBK's) but I'd definately recommend the Ole Anderson / Jim Cornette Q&A sessions from Charlotte's Fan Fest back in January. They're both available on RF. I sat in the second row for both, right behind Sensational Sherri (IIRC I think she was only there for Cornette's). Both men are very open to answer what is asked, trash talk everyone from Eric Bischoff to Jim Herd to Paul Heyman to the Briscos, and are as entertaining as they are informative. 4hrs total. Ole was out to shill his book so he doesn't open up as much as he could have but it's about as close to a shoot as you can get.
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Blanchard was actually fired nearly a month prior but continued to be advertised on house shows (Demolition defended the gold against the unlikely duos of Arn Anderson & Akeem / Haku instead).
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Flair and Anderson turned Vader face after Bash at the Beach 95. He went on to beat them in a handicap match at the August Clash of the Champions, which spurred on the Flair / Anderson rivalry. My best bet, he would have been jobbed out to the Giant prior to Giant going after Hogan.
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It hasn't. For those older tapings, the best thing would be to get ahold of some Observers from the 80s. Can't think of any other publication that would run dark match results. PWI didn't really put effort into the arena results section until 89. FYI, I'm still gathering more info but won't be able to update the site until I'm back at school ... another week and a half / 2 weeks.
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If you don't know what sweeps are to begin with, how can you say that they're responsible for a 0.5 ratings drop? Because I am aware that these sweeps things are popular amongst TV viewers, especially amongst WWE's demographic. Sweeps are something to do with basketball, right? Sweeps are when the ratings actually count. The higher your ratings during 'sweeps' weeks, the more you can charge for advertising during your program. Sweeps week occurs in February and May and are when TV shows determine their new advertising rates for the following year, which are dependant on their ratings for the week (that's usually when season finales pull out all the stops to get viewers).
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Both of those aired, I'm pretty sure. I believe Duggan became another victim of Hansen's lariat ... not sure if Backlund did a save after the match or not.
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Fairly certain there was only one prior to the live telecast in 88. Bigelow won a battle royal on Superstars in the fall of 87, though.