The Old School questions thread

[King Kamala 0]

Sorry, if this question has been answered, but where was King Kong Bundy in the eight years between his two WWF stints? Indies, I'm guessing. I never understood why AWA, NWA or WCW never decided to sign him.

[Guest Fook]

How and when did the British Bulldog come back to the WWF after he was let go in 92?

 

I know he was let go due to the steroid thing and went to WCW for a stint. I remember him (with caveman hair and all) getting involved in the Bret/Owen cage match at SS when Anvil clothelined him from behind while he was sitting in the crowd with the Hart family. Was that his return?

[cawthon777 0]

Was that his return?

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Yep.

[Fökai 0]

During the PPV, Bulldog & Owen jumped Austin when he went into the bathroom, which was seen in the background while Marc Mero was shilling merchandise or something. Later, Gorilla Monsoon was updating everyone on Austin's condition, and he said that his match with Bret would still happen, but to give Austin time to recover, he would put Taker-Mankind first.

 

Edit: If you were looking for the reason in real life rather than kayfabe, like above, I'd take a guess that they maybe thought the Austin-Harts was the hotter feud.

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I was looking for the real life reason. I knew the kayfabe one becuase I watched the show yesterday. It just seemed odd that the Undertaker/Mankind match was made out to be the main attraction of the show only for not to be the main event.

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I'd suspect that they didn't want to end the show on such a morbid note (the fireball to Bearer).

 

As for the Austin attack...

 

DOK HENDRIX chats with SABLE and MARC MERO. Sable's thrilled to be Miss Slammy, and promises that 1997 is going to be her year. Mero says his knee is recovering nicely, and this summer is gonna rock when he returns. While Mero continues his "I'm so happy to be on the recovery trail" speech, STEVE AUSTIN  wanders into the can behind them. Suddenly, all we hear is banging, thrashing, and Austin's screams. THE BRITISH BULLDOG  and OWEN HART emerge from the bathroom with a bent crowbar...see the camera, do an absolutely HYSTERICAL double take at being caught by the camera, and beat it out of Dodge.

 

That scene was hilarious.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

That double take was overrated. It wasn't even a double take. They just glanced at the cameras and ran away.

[Guest fanofcoils]

Sorry, if this question has been answered, but where was King Kong Bundy in the eight years between his two WWF stints? Indies, I'm guessing. I never understood why AWA, NWA or WCW never decided to sign him.

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King Kong Bundy said he was doing nothing at all between 1988-1994 in an interview. I saw him on some indy card in late 1993. Does anyone know of any other cards he was on between 1988-1994? I e-mailed him before and he said he was "wrestling in New Jersey" in those years he was supposidly AWOL and he didn't feel like wrestling in the WWF at that time. Bundy said he wanted to take a year and a half break for whatever reason around early 1988 when it is abnormal to do such a thing especially where he was career wise at the time. He said he didn't come back a year and a half later because he went through a divorce. He was rumored to come back at Survivor Series 1990 and several other times after that before he came back in 1994, and he came back right before Summerslam 94 as it says on thehistoryofwwe.com, so for whatever reason he was left off that card in a jobber squash or whatever.

[The Mandarin 0]

- Just finished watching Guilty as Charged 2000. Did Mike Awesome really knock that girl's teeth out w/ a clothesline? They showed the clip and it looked like it could have been a blood capsule at first, but the promo w/ Spike and his girlfriend showed her looking like Bushwhacker Luke. Maybe she was wearing false teeth before. Either way, the clothesline was pretty brutal.

 

Yeah, that was one of the more disturbing things I've seen on television.

 

My questions-

 

When did Steve McMichael leave the WCW announcing booth?

 

How many clean victories does Ric Flair have against Hulk Hogan?

 

What was the setup for Eric Bischoff joining the nWo?

 

What was the background behind the Perfect angle at SummerSlam '92? How did it start/finish?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

When did Steve McMichael leave the WCW announcing booth?

 

In the build-up to his tag match with Kevin Green against Flair and Arn

 

How many clean victories does Ric Flair have against Hulk Hogan?

 

None.

 

What was the setup for Eric Bischoff joining the nWo?

 

There was no real setup before the turn, but after the turn they played certain things as being part of the setup.

 

What was the background behind the Perfect angle at SummerSlam '92? How did it start/finish?

 

It started some weeks before the event, and it saw Perfect and Flair on alternate weeks claim that they were offering their services to Warrior or Savage. The storyline was that neither Savage or Warrior really trusted each other, and that Flair and Perfect were playing on that mistrust. It ended at Summerslam when they attacked both Savage and Warrior and showed that they weren't really courting either of them, and were just trying to mess with their minds.

[Fökai 0]

What was the setup for Eric Bischoff joining the nWo?

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The only set-up to it was Bischoff promising to interview Piper at his home in Oregon to see if he would challenge Hogan at Starrcade. This was a week before the turn, which led to the subsequent in-ring interview with Piper calling him a liar.

[cawthon777 0]

What was the background behind the Perfect angle at SummerSlam '92? How did it start/finish?

 

It started some weeks before the event, and it saw Perfect and Flair on alternate weeks claim that they were offering their services to Warrior or Savage. The storyline was that neither Savage or Warrior really trusted each other, and that Flair and Perfect were playing on that mistrust. It ended at Summerslam when they attacked both Savage and Warrior and showed that they weren't really courting either of them, and were just trying to mess with their minds.

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You could make the argument that it ended a few days later when Flair regained the title from Savage, thanks in part to the injuries Savage sustained in that match.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Another ECW question . . . what exactly were Mitch's duties. Before becoming an assistant for Simon Diamond, he's seen at the timekeeper's table for many events in 1999-2000. My initial guess would be he was on the ring crew, but he was way overdressed for that (shirt, tie, and slacks). Was he a House of Hardcore graduate? I figure they didn't have him around just to ring a bell.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Hideki Takizawa pinned Antonio Inoki (3:57) in an "exhibition" match. Takizawa is a teen pop star and this was not a true match..

 

March of 99

 

 

 

I need details of how this came about and how the match went.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Didn't Bundy wrestle in Japan a little bit in the late '80s. I'd swear I remember seeing him on a tape wrestling Antonio Inoki or someone like that.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Were Windham and Bradshaw actually the sons of Mulligan and Lanza, or was that just a ruse since both their previous gimmicks sucked?

 

Sorry if that's a dumb question.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Were Windham and Bradshaw actually the sons of Mulligan and Lanza, or was that just a ruse since both their previous gimmicks sucked?

 

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Windham is Mulligan's son. Bradshaw, however, is not Lanza's son.

[Guest Biggles]

During that period on RAW a few years back, they kept merging all the titles so that there was one title on RAW. Was there a reason that they merged all the titles so that there was only the World title?

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I can't give you an official reason for the European / Hardcore title mergers but I assume the idea was that they just wanted to push one major title on a brand they felt didn't have enough talent to worry about secondary titles.

 

If memoery serves me right, the IC title got merged into the World title because the idea was supposed to be that Lesnar had the Undisputed title on SmackDown! and the IC belt, now also merged with the European title, was Raw's top belt. HHH hated this idea and was given the World Title instead with the IC title going away until 2003 when they realized they needed midcard titles.

[MDH257 0]

Actually, the WWE Champion was supposed to be able to crossover to both shows and be the top belt for each. This happened with HHH, Hogan, Undertaker, Rock and Lesnar. Around Summerslam, Lesnar was feuding with UT and HHH was told he'd be fueding with Kane over the I-C Title. But HHH decided that it was beneth him, so they did the angle where Steph announced that Brock was exclusive to Smackdown and the HHH World title was created.

[King Kamala 0]

When did Haku leave the WWF the first time? IIRC, he was a participant in the 92 Royal Rumble but I don't remember him in WWF after that until he returned in 01.

[Jericholic82 0]

Actually, the WWE Champion was supposed to be able to crossover to both shows and be the top belt for each. This happened with HHH, Hogan, Undertaker, Rock and Lesnar.  Around Summerslam, Lesnar was feuding with UT and HHH was told he'd be fueding with Kane over the I-C Title.  But HHH decided that it was beneth him, so they did the angle where Steph announced that Brock was exclusive to Smackdown and the HHH World title was created.

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and you now have stated indisuptable evidence of exactly why the IWC hates Trippers so much.

 

The hardcore title was also merged with the IC. so when HHH beat Kane at no mercy 02 The world title contained the lineage of the IC,Euro,Hardcore, US(since it was merged with the ic belt in 01), and debateably the WCW world title. Thats a strong title eh?

 

I so wish Jericho would have won the title then and came out with all 5 titles.

[Guest Ransome]

Actually, the WWE Champion was supposed to be able to crossover to both shows and be the top belt for each. This happened with HHH, Hogan, Undertaker, Rock and Lesnar.  Around Summerslam, Lesnar was feuding with UT and HHH was told he'd be fueding with Kane over the I-C Title.  But HHH decided that it was beneth him, so they did the angle where Steph announced that Brock was exclusive to Smackdown and the HHH World title was created.

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If memoery serves me right, the IC title got merged into the World title because the idea was supposed to be that Lesnar had the Undisputed title on SmackDown! and the IC belt, now also merged with the European title, was Raw's top belt. HHH hated this idea and was given the World Title instead with the IC title going away until 2003 when they realized they needed midcard titles.

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I'm almost certain DrVenkman's post is accurate, or at least what was reported online at the time. They wanted the WWE title for SD and the IC title for Raw, but Triple H felt (rightly, perhaps) that the IC had been built up as too inferior to be taken as the brand's top title, leading to the rushed World Heavyweight title awarding and contrived unification match.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The Undisputed champion was meant to be on both shows, with the champion being the only guy able to move freely from show to show. Hunter was going to be the top guy on Raw, and get pushed as IC champion. He felt the IC belt was beneath him, and because of that, and because it would make Lesnar less special, we got the Hunter Heavyweight Championship.

[The Decemberists 0]

Who the hell is Lazortron (or something like that) in the 1987 Crockett Cup? He's described as the "world junior champion" at one point, but I've no idea how serious I should take that description. I've had a quick look on OWW but can't seem to find him anywhere.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Hector Guerrero. He was also the Gobbledy Gooker.

[landy1987 0]

Just wondering a few things about WCW, hopefully someone knows some of these, thanks:

 

When exactly did Jesse Ventura leave WCW in 94? (what was his last PPV or Clash or even TV show and who did he commentate with)

 

When did Bobby Heenan & Gene Okerlund leave WCW in 2000 (same as above, or did Okerlund stick around until WCW finished in 2001?)

 

How and when did Rey Mysterio Jr. lose his mask?

 

When did Nitro become 2 hours? and also 3 hours (I guess they went back to 2 hours at some point?)

 

Who were the commentators for Nitro over the years (all i know is Bischoff, Heenan and McMichael did it at first)

 

That's all for now

[cawthon777 0]

When exactly did Jesse Ventura leave WCW in 94? (what was his last PPV or Clash or even TV show and who did he commentate with)

 

I think it might have been one match, filling in for Heenan, at Bash at the Beach 94.

 

When did Bobby Heenan & Gene Okerlund leave WCW in 2000 (same as above, or did Okerlund stick around until WCW finished in 2001?)

 

Okerlund stuck around until the end. I don't recall Heenan's situation.

 

How and when did Rey Mysterio Jr. lose his mask?

 

He and Konnan lost to Luger and Nash at SuperBrawl 9. As a result, Mysterio had to unmask. And because he agreed to unmask, he scored a few high profile wins shortly thereafter (Nash, Norton, etc).

 

When did Nitro become 2 hours? and also 3 hours (I guess they went back to 2 hours at some point?)

 

The 2 hour change came in the spring of 96. Not sure about the 3 hour change but it was probably about the same time in 97.

 

Who were the commentators for Nitro over the years (all i know is Bischoff, Heenan and McMichael did it at first)

 

Schiavone & Zbyzsko did the 2nd hour when they went to that format. Mike Tenay and Mark Madden were also used frequently.

[Richard 0]

The first 2 hour one was Hall's debut, and the first 3 hour one was Lex's title win.

[Boner Kawanger 0]

Heenan was fired because WCW wanted to go in a young, hip direction and replaced him with Mark Madden.

 

No joke.

[JoeDirt 0]

Was there a prominent three way dance in any major wrestling promotion before the Funk/Douglas/Sabu one from ECW?

[cawthon777 0]

No, I don't believe so.

 

It didn't take the Big 2 very long to start using it themselves.