The O.C.

[slimm44 0]

Well I'm even more pissed at this show now. The girl who plays Kaitlin Cooper is almost a carbon copy of Lindsay Lohan, she has the deep voice, looks like a man, and will probably turn into the new slut in town.

[Guest Hass of Pain]

Weak, weak episode. Kaitlin is getting the Lex Express push right out of the gates and she just isn't all that interesting. As typical, I will continue to watch for one reason and one reason only:

 

 

 

 

 

I would seriously gnaw off my left arm if she asked me to.

[Mole 0]

Well I'm even more pissed at this show now. The girl who plays Kaitlin Cooper is almost a carbon copy of Lindsay Lohan, she has the deep voice, looks like a man, and will probably turn into the new slut in town.

But atleast Lohan has some acting ability. This biddie makes Barton look like Charlize Theron.

[Mole 0]

And Taylor is the best thing to happen to the OC. Too bad she is going to go the root of Luke, but whatever.

[haVoc 0]

~~BUMP~~

 

Anyone know why they killed off Marissa? Did Barton ask to leave the show?

 

Either way, this show has been hurting for a while and killing off a main character is never good.

[Angelus 0]

Anyone know why they killed off Marissa? Did Barton ask to leave the show?

 

Yes she wants to play in movies now ah ah ... And me i want a poney.

 

Anyway the ending was great

[syxx2001 0]

Barton wants to do movies and either they will focus on Taylor, Ryan, Seth and Summer, or the series will focus on Kaitlyn and a new group of main "friends". Im counting on the 2nd one.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Everyone is still going to interact as usual, as in addition to "life without Marissa", Taylor will be a fulltime character, as will Kaitlin next season.

 

In reading a recent EW, Josh Schwartz stated that the show lost its flair and become too dramatic, so next season he plans on taking it back to its original intent of a dramedy style show. Obviously there's going to be plenty of drama with the death of the Marissa character, but I think that with the character overhaul and the first year of college theme, it could be just as good as Season 1.

[Adam 0]

Wow, thats a huge shock. We won't get that episode for around 9 weeks, and when we do, people will be shocked. I'm a big fan of Taylor (that girl is delectable), and Kaitlin scores high with all the boys, despite her being jailbait. I've never really been a huge Marissa fan anyway, so I'm not devastated about the loss.

 

FYI, we just saw Marissa hug Johnny's necklace, so for Australia, we aren't doing too bad.

[iggymcfly 0]

What happened to Marissa? After watching the first two seasons religiously, I just couldn't bring myself to watch this one after the first couple episodes, but I'm still kind of curious where they went with the character arc.

[Mole 0]

If they want the show to be good they need to stop with the 3 week storylines and focus on season long storylines. Simple as that.

 

And Barton's movie career will be as long as me having sex when I'm sober.

[Hawk 34 0]

Looking back at the final scene, I can't believe I missed the 3 layered shot of the history of Ryan carrying Marissa (the time Marissa passed out by the pool house and the time she overdosed in TJ) as Ryan carried her for one last time and the shot of Marissa and Ryan's first meeting.

 

All it really means is that it showed just how great the first season really was.

[Guest El Satanico]

I've seen every episode and I still like the show, but it did need a shake up. I'm not a big Kaitlin (actress, not character) fan, but hopefully the finale and Kaitlin is the shake up it needed.

[Zack Malibu 0]

I'm with Satanico. I love the show, but it's fallen into the category of too much (Season 2) or not enough (Season 3, at least until towards the end). With the major overhaul, the college storyline, Kaitlin's arrival at Harbor, Sandy getting back into legal practice, there's a lot to go on in Season 4 right off the bat.

[syxx2001 0]

I'm with Satanico. I love the show, but it's fallen into the category of too much (Season 2) or not enough (Season 3, at least until towards the end). With the major overhaul, the college storyline, Kaitlin's arrival at Harbor, Sandy getting back into legal practice, there's a lot to go on in Season 4 right off the bat.

 

You dont think 4 ways to set up a season is too much?

[Zack Malibu 0]

No, because this is finally a storyline that affects EVERYONE. It's not a "kids face one crisis, parents face another". The fact that they have so many directions to go in post-mourning means that they have a lot invested into rejuvenation this season.

[Hawk 34 0]

The last time a storyline affected everyone was the arrival of Ryan. I think the producers, who have been itching to get to the Kaitlin storyline for the last season were just trying to burn through season 3 and threw out the cliche storylines and set the pieces up for the 4th season.

 

They already established that Kaitlin intends to dominate Harbor, Ryan will be alone again with no one to keep an eye on him and you have to expect him to be witholding his emotions about Marissa's death, so we'll get more broody Atwood, which would be a return to the original Ryan that was so popular.

 

Seth without Ryan or Summer for the first half should be interesting if he reverts back to the ultra geek or if he gets in more adventures.

 

Will they have a Volchek/Atwood showdown, will they explain what Volchek meant with the comment about Ryan's mother (I don't recall Ryan ever telling him that his mom was in town) and was it possible that Volchek was trying to tell Marissa something important and not just a desperate plea from a drunk ex?

 

The OC will have to hit a homer out of the park right away when it comes back because interest will be there.

[Hawk 34 0]

tp

[Hawk 34 0]

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[tommytomlin 0]

Just watched a the first episode of Season 4. As someone who loved the O.C in the first season, stopped caring in the second season (about the time Marissa threw the pool chair) and barely watched the third, it was going to take something awful good to get me back into it.

 

5 mins in to the episode, I was re-hooked. Hawk said they have to hit a homer out of the park, and I think they did it. It's almost like the first episode in that the focus is on Ryan in a pretty bad state. And the entire episode reminds you why you love the main characters. There's one soppy moment near the end, and a few lame moments, but it just tells a good story. It seems to know where it's going too, so it's already one step ahead of Season 2.

 

You can either download the screener, or watch the entire first episode on MySpace, I think.

[Jonathon 0]

I'm psyched...Heard nothing but good things about this new season. Let's hope people are watching.

[Dips 0]

I watched the trailer that was around before watching episode one. Great interchange between Kaitlin and Luke's brothers in the trailer.

 

Watched the first episode, thought they copped out on the Ryan stuff brought him back home too quickly, kind of like episode one in series 2 was it? They could have stretched it out an episode or two more surely.

 

But other than that I thought it was great.

[Craig Th 0]

That is the problem with the show, they keep things too short. They need to have a storyline over a whole season, not these 3-4 episode arc of storylines.

[Zack Malibu 0]

The advertising campaign seems to be that they're focusing on getting the larger audience back. Every commercial I've heard seems to say something like "you're going to fall in love with this show all over again".

 

I thought the Fight Club stuff with Ryan was...different. I didn't know how I'd like it. But I took it as that whole "what does he have left to lose" type of scenario. The life he loved, the girl he loved, taken from him in one fell swoop. The pain of the fights wouldn't even compare.

 

I get a kick out of Kaitlin being a schemer with Luke's brothers as her two toadies. I also like how they're expanding past the core four, similar to what 90210 did. While the later days of that show were nothing compared to early seasons, at least they had established characters ready to go and become more focal points than go into panic mode and have to introduce a bunch of new characters in one fell swoop.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

So there was this club a buncha friends and I frequently that was a few minutes from one of their houses, we'd pregame, smoke, and watch The OC like every week before we went, and half the times we'd never even make it.

 

Anyways, that's how I got into the show half-way through Season 1. Great writing, really good characters, just totally not what I expected and that was a good thing.

 

Season 2 was just awful except for 2 episodes, and Season 3, while you could tell they were trying to get back on course wasn't the same, either.

 

Gonna give it a few tries for Season 4, we'll see. I'll be tunin' in, though. But that group of friends doesn't hang out anymore so it'll be different, lol.

 

No Spoilers please

[Craig Th 0]

Another problem with the show are the characters. There is no growth in them

 

Ryan is still Ryan.

Seth is still a sarcastic geek.

Sandy is still a nice guy who is trying to do good things for people.

Kirsten is still a Mom who just doesn't drink anymore.

 

Marissa was still the same person before she died. Summer is different from the beginning of season 1, but she ended up staying the same Summer. Atleast it looks like they are trying to change her.

 

Julie is the only character that has grown.

 

That is why people are not liking the show anymore; it is the same thing as season 1, just with different storylines. They need to change the characters to keep the audience there.

[Craig Th 0]

Another problem with the show are the characters. There is no growth in them

 

Ryan is still Ryan.

Seth is still a sarcastic geek.

Sandy is still a nice guy who is trying to do good things for people.

Kirsten is still a Mom who just doesn't drink anymore.

 

Marissa was still the same person before she died. Summer is different from the beginning of season 1, but she ended up staying the same Summer. Atleast it looks like they are trying to change her.

 

Julie is the only character that has grown.

 

That is why people are not liking the show anymore; it is the same thing as season 1, just with different storylines. They need to change the characters to keep the audience there.

[Hawk 34 0]

Just watched a the first episode of Season 4. As someone who loved the O.C in the first season, stopped caring in the second season (about the time Marissa threw the pool chair) and barely watched the third, it was going to take something awful good to get me back into it.

 

5 mins in to the episode, I was re-hooked. Hawk said they have to hit a homer out of the park, and I think they did it. It's almost like the first episode in that the focus is on Ryan in a pretty bad state. And the entire episode reminds you why you love the main characters. There's one soppy moment near the end, and a few lame moments, but it just tells a good story. It seems to know where it's going too, so it's already one step ahead of Season 2.

 

You can either download the screener, or watch the entire first episode on MySpace, I think.

 

This wasn't a HR show. It stuck to the moody depressing tone that burdened the third season and didn't really advance anything other then Summer's changing of personality. Seth is loner again. Kirsten and Sandy are the same people.

 

Only Julie and Ryan are affected by Marissa's death.

 

It still has awhile to go before it can approach the magic of season 1 or even the awesomeness of season 2 at the end.

[Guest East.Coast.J]

I was not entirely sold on the show being back after the first episode. It was dark, moody, and some of the things like the god-awful twins, cagefighter Ryan and tree-hugging Summer were pretty hard to buy into. I like The OC quite a bit, and I liked this episode, but I think it is more of the same and the same is what people tuned out of in droves.

 

The overnights for last night have The OC at a 2.2, which puts FOX rock bottom even below The CW for that timeslot. It's a tough slot, but still they need to do much better to get the old audience back.

 

I have talked to someone who has seen the first four episodes of this season and he thinks that the next three episodes are awesome and the home run that people were hoping for. I hope so because I can't see the show even making it through it's 17 episode run unless a miracle occurs.

[syxx2001 0]

I was not entirely sold on the show being back after the first episode. It was dark, moody, and some of the things like the god-awful twins, cagefighter Ryan and tree-hugging Summer were pretty hard to buy into. I like The OC quite a bit, and I liked this episode, but I think it is more of the same and the same is what people tuned out of in droves.

 

The overnights for last night have The OC at a 2.2, which puts FOX rock bottom even below The CW for that timeslot. It's a tough slot, but still they need to do much better to get the old audience back.

 

I have talked to someone who has seen the first four episodes of this season and he thinks that the next three episodes are awesome and the home run that people were hoping for. I hope so because I can't see the show even making it through it's 17 episode run unless a miracle occurs.

 

I dont understand Summer's change in personality. Also, since I didnt download Season 3 so I dont remember the end of it, I thought her and Seth got back together in the end...why were they acting so distant and uncouple like? She wouldnt even give him a kiss when she saw him and looked disturbed when he hugged her, but then again she also said "I love you" at the end so...

 

And the thing with Ryan is, he is in a state of mind where he doesnt care about life any more. He only fights because he wants something to numb the pain, which is why he turned down his cut of the money from that fight. He isnt looking for a new career path, he's just looking for something to take his mind off of everything. Either that or he feels that since its his fault for Marissa dying (if it wasnt for Trey, she wouldnt have shot him, went to another school, met that surfer kid, met Volchek and gotten killed) he wants to put himself in as much pain as he feels necessary.