Being gay is the new trend

[Guest TheGame2705]

Hell I'm guilty of it too but it seems like everyone nowadays is milking gayity for all its worth. Queer as Folk, Will&Grace, etc. I can honestly say I've done it too as well. Most people from this board think I'm gay when in fact I like black women alot too. I was just watching something on VH1 that documents it all and it's just weird. Kotz said at one time he actively tried being gay but couldn't get into it.

 

My personal thoughts are that if you're a drag queen or you act feminine on purpose to get attention then you deserve ridicule. I'm not buying the "I should have been born a woman" excuse for drag queens. I have a strong hatred for most skinny gay guys as they go with whatever is trendy. Most gay people are usually whores from my experience and while it doesn't differ too much from regular society it still disgusts me to know that if you live in the SF Bay area and you're gay then you most likely have been around the block too many times.

 

Gay icons in music also tend to annoy me or atleast the reasons as to why they are or lack thereof. Madonna has become some huge symbol for gays and while I think she's not good people, she atleast was popular. Cher should have hung it up long ago but every gay guy worships her.

 

Anyway, thoughts?

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

...this isn't just stupid, it's relatively insulting.

 

I'm not even gay or bisexual, and I'm insulted.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Wait until the AIDS rate rises, then we'll see if it's still trendy.

 

Oh, regarding you post, I could care less regarding the "milking of gayity." Although there seems to be a disproportionate amount of gay characters on TV when compared to real-life. Oh well...

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

I could care less

 

<tom>I'm sure you could care less, but that's irrelevant. If you COULDN'T care less, though, that would be significant</tom>

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Fine.

 

I couldn't care less. Happy?

 

Jesus...

[Guest TheGame2705]

...this isn't just stupid, it's relatively insulting.

 

I'm not even gay or bisexual, and I'm insulted.

How is it insulting?

[Firestarter 0]

Because you're right, and most people don't like to hear anything as disgusting as the truth coming out of anyone's mouth. I'm gay and I'm not insulted. I can't be insulted by a bald statement of the facts.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

it still disgusts me to know that if you live in the SF Bay area and you're gay then you most likely have been around the block too many times.

 

<-- Virgin, thank you very much.

 

 

JotW

(never thought he'd find a time when he'd WANT to flaunt that fact)

 

 

 

((PPS: kkktookmy...: Get your head out of your ass. Almost half the AIDS cases out there worldwide are women. It's not just for gay people anymore. Seeing that most people are educated about AIDS, I'd be cautious but it's no more dangerous than straight sex, really.))

[Guest TheGame2705]

it still disgusts me to know that if you live in the SF Bay area and you're gay then you most likely have been around the block too many times.

 

<-- Virgin, thank you very much.

 

 

JotW

(never thought he'd find a time when he'd WANT to flaunt that fact)

 

 

 

((PPS: kkktookmy...: Get your head out of your ass. Almost half the AIDS cases out there worldwide are women. It's not just for gay people anymore. Seeing that most people are educated about AIDS, I'd be cautious but it's no more dangerous than straight sex, really.))

I'm seriously shocked.

[NoCalMike 0]

I remember in the 90's a bunch of fundamentalist religious hacks tried to offer their fair share of the Doom N Gloom rhetoric about how our teenage children were being taught that it was cool & hip to be gay, which somehow led straights into turning into gays, it was so lame.

[Guest KJ Brackish]

I have no problems with gay/bi/straight people, as I hope nobody else does. We're now living in a society where anything goes. People need to learn how to cope with the changes or .....I don't know.....

 

DFA

[Guest DeputyHawk]

I could care less

 

<tom>I'm sure you could care less, but that's irrelevant. If you COULDN'T care less, though, that would be significant</tom>

off topic, but this has bugged me for ages actually. brits have been saying "i couldnt care less" since the year dot, then a few years ago it became some sort of trendy retort in america, but changed to "i could care less", albeit with the same connotations. IT MAKES NO LINGUISTIC SENSE AS A DISMISSIVE RETORT!!! thanks.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

((PPS: kkktookmy...: Get your head out of your ass. Almost half the AIDS cases out there worldwide are women. It's not just for gay people anymore. Seeing that most people are educated about AIDS, I'd be cautious but it's no more dangerous than straight sex, really.))

Wasn't talking about worldwide cases -- was talking about America. I doubt those stricken with the disease in Africa or India COULD CARE LESS about the gayity on TV...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Wasn't talking about worldwide cases -- was talking about America.

Fine, then it's 30 percent, and that number is not likely to stabalize soon. Just in 96, the leading cause of HIV in women was coming in contact with an HIVpos man that allows it to spread. Six years later the leading cause is heterosexual sex, and there's just as much loose heterosexual sex as there is loose homosexual sex so I'd expect to see that number go up.

 

I'm seriously shocked.

 

I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they want for the most part, but my hershey highway is my own and I'm quite content with it being purely for exit purposes, thank you very much. Maybe I'll get over that someday or maybe I won't.

[Guest MikeSC]

it still disgusts me to know that if you live in the SF Bay area and you're gay then you most likely have been around the block too many times.

 

<-- Virgin, thank you very much.

 

 

JotW

(never thought he'd find a time when he'd WANT to flaunt that fact)

 

 

 

((PPS: kkktookmy...: Get your head out of your ass. Almost half the AIDS cases out there worldwide are women. It's not just for gay people anymore. Seeing that most people are educated about AIDS, I'd be cautious but it's no more dangerous than straight sex, really.))

Nobody says AIDS is just a gay disease.

 

But, like it or not, anal sex is the easiest way in the world to get it and, sadly, that tends to be a big part of the male homosexual lifestyle.

 

I honestly have never heard of lesbians transmitting AIDS to their partners.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Wasn't talking about worldwide cases -- was talking about America.

Fine, then it's 30 percent, and that number is not likely to stabalize soon. Just in 96, the leading cause of HIV in women was coming in contact with an HIVpos man that allows it to spread. Six years later the leading cause is heterosexual sex, and there's just as much loose heterosexual sex as there is loose homosexual sex so I'd expect to see that number go up.

 

I'm seriously shocked.

 

I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they want for the most part, but my hershey highway is my own and I'm quite content with it being purely for exit purposes, thank you very much. Maybe I'll get over that someday or maybe I won't.

The leading cause is heterosexual sex? I'd love to see SOME report stating that because conventional medical wisdom is that vaginal intercourse carries risk, but anal sex is THE riskiest act --- by a healthy margin --- in terms of HIV transmission. A lot of hetero couples do that --- for God knows what reason --- and that is the biggest cause for heterosexual transmission through sex.

 

If you wish to believe that vaginal intercourse is riskier than anal sex --- feel free. You'll be factually inaccurate.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

but anal sex is THE riskiest act --- by a healthy margin --- in terms of HIV transmission. A lot of hetero couples do that --- for God knows what reason --- and that is the biggest cause for heterosexual transmission through sex.

Right. Anal sex is riskier than vaginal sex. Which is why any male should wear a condom when doing the act (regardless of whether your partner is male or female).

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

I'd be insulted because it's STUPID to imply that "EL OH EL BEING GAY IS COOL"

 

I don't know ANYONE who thinks that.

[Cartman 0]

I'd be insulted because it's STUPID to imply that "EL OH EL BEING GAY IS COOL"

 

I don't know ANYONE who thinks that.

I do.

 

It perdominantly seems to be young teenage to low twenties aged girls that think being "gay" is cool. I have met PLENTY of girls like this...actually I shouldnt say outright Gay but Bisexual. I am convinced from MY experiences that lots of girls do it because it's the cool thing to do these days. Not ALL, but ALOT.

 

Also, Anal intercourse is definitely MUCH more of a risk when it comes to transmission of the HIV virus. Don't bother trying to prove that statement wrong because I dont care what kind of research you do it's just a fact.

[Ripper 0]

BUT, heterosexuals by the numbers are the ones that are contracting it more. Now if you go by percentages and such, yeah, a larger percentage of homosexuals get HIV than heterosexuals. But there are a lot more heterosexuals, or those claiming to be. Of course those claiming to be heterosexual could be lieing, but hey.

 

 

And the girls are not doing it because they think it is cool. They are doing it because they are curious and want to try different things. In past times, society would have shunned them and called them outcast. Now with more tolorance, people are feeling more free to experiment sexually.

 

Clothes are a trend, discovering ones sexual identity and experimentation will never be a trend. It will be exactly what it is. Experimentation.

[Guest MikeSC]

BUT, heterosexuals by the numbers are the ones that are contracting it more. Now if you go by percentages and such, yeah, a larger percentage of homosexuals get HIV than heterosexuals. But there are a lot more heterosexuals, or those claiming to be. Of course those claiming to be heterosexual could be lieing, but hey.

 

 

And the girls are not doing it because they think it is cool. They are doing it because they are curious and want to try different things. In past times, society would have shunned them and called them outcast. Now with more tolorance, people are feeling more free to experiment sexually.

 

Clothes are a trend, discovering ones sexual identity and experimentation will never be a trend. It will be exactly what it is. Experimentation.

Perhaps the higher rate of infection should indicate that perhaps anal intercourse is not the best option.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Just visited the Center for Disease Control's web site and ran some AIDS data:

 

http://wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/cgi-bin/asp/A.../AIDSPublic.asp

 

PARAMETERS:

 

Metropolitan Statistical Area: The United States

Diagnose from year/month: 1981/01 thru 1999/12

Report Date from year/month: 1981/01 thru 1999/12

Case Definition: All case definitions

Sex and Orientation: All sex classes

For Ages: Less than 1 Year thru 65 Years or Older

Race: All Races

Country of Birth: All birth places

HIV Exposure Category: All HIV exposure groups

Multiple Risk: All

Death Status: All values

Output by: SEX

 

Adult/adolescent homosexual male 301,854

Adult/adolescent bisexual male 84,986

Adult/adolescent heterosexual male or pediatric male 222,489

Females 124,045

 

 

Now seeing how homosexual males make up a small portion of the American population, I think it's safe to say that they make up a disproportionate amount of AIDS cases. Of course, knowing me I probably entered something wrong on the chart.

 

I think I'll still stick with my head up my ass -- at least I know that I'm AIDS-free...

[Spicy McHaggis 0]

Clothes are a trend, discovering ones sexual identity and experimentation will never be a trend. It will be exactly what it is. Experimentation.

But you don't have to try being gay, straight, or bi, i.e. have sexual contact, to know your sexual identity. I don't need to get fucked in the ass or get blown by a dude to know that I'm not gay and never will be. I know I love women, love going down, and only want a chick near my dick. I know that will never change. IMO, experimentation is a trend. Anyone that has to "discover" their sexual identity is either doing it because it's cool or because they're in desperate need of pleasure.

[Guest EsotericMaster]

Clothes are a trend, discovering ones sexual identity and experimentation will never be a trend.  It will be exactly what it is.  Experimentation.

But you don't have to try being gay, straight, or bi, i.e. have sexual contact, to know your sexual identity. I don't need to get fucked in the ass or get blown by a dude to know that I'm not gay and never will be. I know I love women, love going down, and only want a chick near my dick. I know that will never change. IMO, experimentation is a trend. Anyone that has to "discover" their sexual identity is either doing it because it's cool or because they're in desperate need of pleasure.

I would agree with that statement.

[Ripper 0]

Clothes are a trend, discovering ones sexual identity and experimentation will never be a trend.  It will be exactly what it is.  Experimentation.

But you don't have to try being gay, straight, or bi, i.e. have sexual contact, to know your sexual identity. I don't need to get fucked in the ass or get blown by a dude to know that I'm not gay and never will be. I know I love women, love going down, and only want a chick near my dick. I know that will never change. IMO, experimentation is a trend. Anyone that has to "discover" their sexual identity is either doing it because it's cool or because they're in desperate need of pleasure.

Then it is safe to say that no matter how "cool" it becomes, you won't be having sex with men...right? I know I won't, but I also have no intrest in it. If someone has that curiosity, they will take into consideration doing it. That being said, I refuse to belive that it has anything to do with trends. It is a curiosity in the same sex intercourse that make people want to experiment. This has been going on forever, well before Will and Grace and whatever other show people want to attribute for making being gay "cool". As I said, if this was the 1950's, the only reason these same individuals would not have tried to experiment is the fact that society would have made them outcast. Much like those who were attracted to people of opposite sex wouldn't act on it in the past due to the stigma that comes with it. With acceptance and/or tolorance will come more people willing to do what they desire.

 

I think alot of the "being gay is a trend" thing comes from men that want to hold on to the belief that every woman that walks the green earth really craves dick and one day they will come troting back to boys land after they get done with their little stage. Then there are those that experiment, then they don't have anymore homosexual experiences the rest of their life so they are considered people who were just in on a trend. Neither of those situations are true so its time to let those beliefs go. I don't care how many of my friends do it or how cool it becomes, Sex with a man never intrested me, and never will. But that also goes to show that it isn't the "coolness" that is making it happen, it is moreso the lack of fear of societies reaction that is making it happen more.

[Ripper 0]

BUT, heterosexuals by the numbers are the ones that are contracting it more.  Now if you go by percentages and such, yeah, a larger percentage of homosexuals get HIV than heterosexuals.  But there are a lot more heterosexuals, or those claiming to be.  Of course those claiming to be heterosexual could be lieing, but hey. 

 

 

And the girls are not doing it because they think it is cool.  They are doing it because they are curious and want to try different things.  In past times, society would have shunned them and called them outcast.  Now with more tolorance, people are feeling more free to experiment sexually. 

 

Clothes are a trend, discovering ones sexual identity and experimentation will never be a trend.  It will be exactly what it is.  Experimentation.

Perhaps the higher rate of infection should indicate that perhaps anal intercourse is not the best option.

Oh most definately. If you want some AIDS, lots of anal sex is the place to start. I'm just saying that some people still try to hold on to the "Its a gay disease" thing when there are just as many heterosexuals with the disease.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

I think alot of the "being gay is a trend" thing comes from men that want to hold on to the belief that every woman that walks the green earth really craves dick and one day they will come troting back to boys land after they get done with their little stage. Then there are those that experiment, then they don't have anymore homosexual experiences the rest of their life so they are considered people who were just in on a trend. Neither of those situations are true so its time to let those beliefs go. I don't care how many of my friends do it or how cool it becomes, Sex with a man never intrested me, and never will. But that also goes to show that it isn't the "coolness" that is making it happen, it is moreso the lack of fear of societies reaction that is making it happen more.

 

Well put. I have nothing to add to that.

 

This all goes back to the argument as to whether or not homosexuality is learned or inherent from birth. I believe the latter, the religious wackos believe the former.

[Ripper 0]

Just visited the Center for Disease Control's web site and ran some AIDS data:

 

http://wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/cgi-bin/asp/A.../AIDSPublic.asp

 

PARAMETERS:

 

Metropolitan Statistical Area: The United States

Diagnose from year/month: 1981/01 thru 1999/12

Report Date from year/month: 1981/01 thru 1999/12

Case Definition: All case definitions

Sex and Orientation: All sex classes

For Ages: Less than 1 Year thru 65 Years or Older

Race: All Races

Country of Birth: All birth places

HIV Exposure Category: All HIV exposure groups

Multiple Risk: All

Death Status: All values

Output by: SEX

 

Adult/adolescent homosexual male 301,854

Adult/adolescent bisexual male 84,986

Adult/adolescent heterosexual male or pediatric male 222,489

Females 124,045

 

 

Now seeing how homosexual males make up a small portion of the American population, I think it's safe to say that they make up a disproportionate amount of AIDS cases. Of course, knowing me I probably entered something wrong on the chart.

 

I think I'll still stick with my head up my ass -- at least I know that I'm AIDS-free...

No, your data is probably right. But it has also been shown that homosexual males tend to have AIDS test more often than heterosexual males. About 6 to 1. There are alot of unknown cases out there, for the homosexual and heterosexual male.

[MrRant 0]

So it is true that most people now-a-days are willing to just bend over and take it from the man.

 

Fight the man~!

[NoCalMike 0]

I'd say the "gay trend" is more common among females since female bi-sexuality is basically a mainstream commodity now. I do agree there is a rather annoying bunch of "mtv chicks"(I like to call them that) who have no lesbian tendencies in them, but throw a camera in their face and they will stick their tongue down their best friend's throat for a little attention, those are just Attention Whores though. They are not to be confused with females who actually do have curiosities about the fairer sex. Not everyone NEEDS or WANTS to experiment and that is perfectly fine. However, just because some does, it doesn't necessarily mean they are doing it because of a "trend"