Cartman Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...id=519&ncid=716 This piece of garbage deserved it too. I know it's wrong to say someone deserves to die but all the things I heard about on the radio about him here in the Boston area made me utterly ill. This waste of human flesh got exactly what he deserved. Any other thoughts?
Youth N Asia Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Good. I hate how these fuckers build up trust in these people only to molest their children in the end. And what makes it worse is how the church goes easy on these assholes. Hope he burns in hell.
Guest MikeSC Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Good. I hate how these fuckers build up trust in these people only to molest their children in the end. And what makes it worse is how the church goes easy on these assholes. Hope he burns in hell. And people doubt that God is just. -=Mike
Cartman Posted August 24, 2003 Author Report Posted August 24, 2003 Hell when I saw this story...to quote many other posters... I Marked The Fuck Out! Also I am now a definite believer that god is Just.
Youth N Asia Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Good. I hate how these fuckers build up trust in these people only to molest their children in the end. And what makes it worse is how the church goes easy on these assholes. Hope he burns in hell. And people doubt that God is just. -=Mike The only way to make it more just is if he'd gotten raped durring his time there.
Guest JMA Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 I'm certainly not going to cry over this. He made his own bed.
JangoFett4Hire Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 He was allegedly in a closed off unit, with little contact to other convicts. Obviously some guards turned a blind eye to the altercation. The word is he was strangled and died from wounds suffered in the neck and throat. Oh, and the guy you're all cheering was convicted of murder in 1989, and in 2001 sent out Anthrax hoax letters. As for the God is just argument, how could he let the molestations even happen in the first place?
Ced Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 It was unavoidable. One way or another, the man was going to get his comeuppance. Disturbing fact from the article: 325 priests of the roughly 46,000 American clergy were either dismissed or resigned from their duties in the year after the Geoghan case.
Guest Fook Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Others said Geoghan molested them after visiting their rooms at bedtime to tuck them in, sometimes while whispering prayers. That's just plain creepy.
Vern Gagne Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Disturbing fact from the article:325 priests of the roughly 46,000 American clergy were either dismissed or resigned from their duties in the year after the Geoghan case. That doesn't even include the clergy who may have done something and gotten away with it.
Jobber of the Week Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Our local sex abuser priest (raped 13 and 14 year old girls) had all his charges dropped as the Supreme Court chucked out our state law that was used to convict him. Can't win em all, I guess. =( Oh well, at least he's still serving his sentence for assaulting a newspaper reporter.
Guest MikeSC Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 He was allegedly in a closed off unit, with little contact to other convicts. Obviously some guards turned a blind eye to the altercation. The word is he was strangled and died from wounds suffered in the neck and throat. Oh, and the guy you're all cheering was convicted of murder in 1989, and in 2001 sent out Anthrax hoax letters. As for the God is just argument, how could he let the molestations even happen in the first place? 1) Nobody is cheering FOR the person who did it. We find it very fitting that it HAPPENED, no matter WHO did it. He did much to earn the results he received. 2) God allows people free will and it us to them to do the right thing. God will not PREVENT the wrong thing from happening, but He will insure that the person who does wrong suffers for so doing. -=Mike
kkktookmybabyaway Posted August 24, 2003 Report Posted August 24, 2003 Score one for the good(?) guys...
Guest BDC Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 I'd say it's a mark against the bad, at least.
Guest JMA Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 God allows people free will and it us to them to do the right thing. God will not PREVENT the wrong thing from happening, but He will insure that the person who does wrong suffers for so doing. Of course, there is also the argument that God doesn't exist and that some people are just scum (like the priest).
JangoFett4Hire Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 Score one for the good(?) guys... Sure, if bloodthirsty neo-nazi's are your idea of a good guy. Don't be misled into thinking that Geoghan was murdered as an act of nobility. The guy only killed him because he was gay, it had nothing to do with avenging the treatment of 146 little Catholic boys in the 60's and 70's.
Ripper Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 Our local sex abuser priest (raped 13 and 14 year old girls) had all his charges dropped as the Supreme Court chucked out our state law that was used to convict him. Can't win em all, I guess. =( Oh well, at least he's still serving his sentence for assaulting a newspaper reporter. What law did the chuck out...the "No sex with little girls" law?
Spicy McHaggis Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 Score one for the good(?) guys... Note K's question mark. Don't be misled into thinking that Geoghan was murdered as an act of nobility. Can't say he didn't get what he deserved.
Guest MikeSC Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 God allows people free will and it us to them to do the right thing. God will not PREVENT the wrong thing from happening, but He will insure that the person who does wrong suffers for so doing. Of course, there is also the argument that God doesn't exist and that some people are just scum (like the priest). So, the world, orderly as it is, is just a huge cosmic fluke? I, uh, think not. -=Mike --- who doesn't care if anybody else doesn't believe. Nor does God.
Spicy McHaggis Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 So, the world, orderly as it is, is just a huge cosmic fluke? Somehow, THAT's more logical to people than God creating it. Amazing.
Guest Ram Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 Seriously, I don't know where to start with these last two posts.
Guest MikeSC Posted August 25, 2003 Report Posted August 25, 2003 Seriously, I don't know where to start with these last two posts. Why bother? Let us live with our "superstitions" and you live w/ yours. -=Mike
Guest JMA Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 So, the world, orderly as it is, is just a huge cosmic fluke? I, uh, think not. -=Mike --- who doesn't care if anybody else doesn't believe. Nor does God. Assuming that God is real, of course. And I'd say the universe being created on a fluke is more believable than the universe being created from some kind of omnipotent will.
Guest MikeSC Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 So, the world, orderly as it is, is just a huge cosmic fluke? I, uh, think not. -=Mike --- who doesn't care if anybody else doesn't believe. Nor does God. Assuming that God is real, of course. And I'd say the universe being created on a fluke is more believable than the universe being created from some kind of omnipotent will. Then feel free to believe as you wish. If you wish to believe in forces that scientists can neither explain nor replicate, do so. Amazingly enough, you seem to be willing to accept this on faith --- but the possibility of God is too much. Odd. -=Mike
Guest JMA Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 Then feel free to believe as you wish. If you wish to believe in forces that scientists can neither explain nor replicate, do so. Amazingly enough, you seem to be willing to accept this on faith --- but the possibility of God is too much. Odd. -=Mike I would appreciate it if you didn't respond to me in a condesending manner. I don't accept much on faith alone. If there was a God, and it was proven, I would accept it. I accept the possibility that I could be wrong. Can you say the same?
Guest SideFXs Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 So, the world, orderly as it is, is just a huge cosmic fluke? I, uh, think not. -=Mike --- who doesn't care if anybody else doesn't believe. Nor does God. Assuming that God is real, of course. And I'd say the universe being created on a fluke is more believable than the universe being created from some kind of omnipotent will. Well, Einstein said, "My sense of God is my sense of wonder of the universe." There are certain laws of physics, there is chance, how far a satellite is from its star, mass, gravity, how fast a satellite rotates, the right temperature, that causes certain chemicals to come together and become animated. Its amazing that, here on Earth, the universe has created a being from its own matter, and now the universe has a conscience. We are the universe, that has become aware of itself. Me personally, I believe there is the Creator, that has set all of this stuff, in the universe, into motion, given it laws, and then watch as we became man. And we are still evolving. But we have choice. Good or Evil. Evil is what we do to others for self gratification, Good is what we do for others. And just like the 'Third Law of Motion, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction," every evil action has to be pushed back, with good, for there to be equilibrium. A trusted Priest, uses his position in society, as a mask, for raping boys, that's evil. We as a society, basically good, push back on evil, by convicting and jailing the priest, to create equilibrium, (the scales of justice). Wait, maybe there wasn't balance yet. The Priest getting killed in jail by another evil man, perhaps had to happen to bring things back into balance. Heck, every opinion here so far, believes the death of the priest was justice, I have yet to hear anyone say, that jailing the priest was enough justice. Good eventually triumphs over evil, because our creator made it that way, for use to survive and evolve. I don't ask why God let this bad thing happen or that bad thing happen. I just know eventually things work out better for the good of all of us. Just my opinion, don't think I am trying to promote some kind of new religion. LOL. All I know is when I do good I feel better about myself and when I am tempted with evil, I feel unsteady and out of balance. I have done both
Guest MikeSC Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 Then feel free to believe as you wish. If you wish to believe in forces that scientists can neither explain nor replicate, do so. Amazingly enough, you seem to be willing to accept this on faith --- but the possibility of God is too much. Odd. -=Mike I would appreciate it if you didn't respond to me in a condesending manner. I don't accept much on faith alone. If there was a God, and it was proven, I would accept it. I accept the possibility that I could be wrong. Can you say the same? Yes --- but until proof exists that there is no God, then I'm right in my eyes. Take it as condescension if you wish to do so. All I'm saying is that you don't believe in God due to a lack of proof --- but you accept another theory with even LESS proof or evidence. -=Mike
Guest JMA Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 Yes --- but until proof exists that there is no God, then I'm right in my eyes. I'm afraid I can't share your blind faith (not meant as an insult, BTW). Take it as condescension if you wish to do so. All I'm saying is that you don't believe in God due to a lack of proof --- but you accept another theory with even LESS proof or evidence. Wait, are you saying there is MORE proof that there is a God? If so, I'd have to disagree with you there.
Vern Gagne Posted August 26, 2003 Report Posted August 26, 2003 I think Mike was implying, there is no clear cut evidence that the universe was created on a fluke.
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