Why is WWE killing Brock's character? *Spoilers*

[Guest rawmvp]

I just don't get it, I really don't...

 

Brock just turned heel; it was a dastardly, monster heel turn designed to make Brock an unstoppable, killing machine which started with the destruction of Gowen. Or at least we all thought...

 

Don't ever give this company the benefit of the doubt, because they've shown us, time after time, that they have a propensity for bungling the easiest angles.

 

Now has WWE seen fit to finally make Brock pay his dues? Talk about the most inopportune time, but we've seen this in the past -- a wrestler gets hot and suddenly starts doing unnecessary jobs (see Jericho and RVD among others).

 

To make things worse, Brock nor Vince pointed out that the referee should've broken the ankle-lock when Brock reached the ropes. And to make matters worse, Brock loses clean to a last ride in a #1 contender's match on SD!

 

Has Vince soured on Brock for not being the complete package? Granted Brock's mic skills are poor, and his title reign didn't exactly coincide with a boost in attendance, ratings or buyrates, but things take time. Vince should give Brock a little more time to develop into the draw he's capable of being if Brock's viability is in question.

Edited August 27, 2003 by rawmvp

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Nice use of the word propensity.

 

*golf clap*

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Oh and I agree...

 

To a point.

 

It's about time for Brock to start returning the investment and losing a match/feud to help put over a face. It's just that face shouldn't be Taker. And when he was a face, the heel shouldn't have been Big Show. Just putting the time in the wrong guys and doing it the wrong way. Very sloppy work.

[Guest JacK]

WHAT?!?!?!?! Lesnar lost to Taker? What an odd thing to do . . . ? Is there ANY point to that at all? I mean, Takers as over as he's ever going to be . . . but someone like Benoit, or Edge when he gets back; for instance, beating Brock would actually do something!

I reiterate; what an odd thing to do.

[Guest Ray]

Just like I said in the other thread....WWE is stupid.

 

Brock is doing FAR too much jobbing, and to the wrong people.

 

They no longer understand the face/heel title chase concept, and that's sad since it's such a simple concept.

 

Big monster heel is champion. Brave face stands up to big monster heel. Big monster heel does evil things (killing jobbers, etc...). Big monster heel screws face out of title shots/wins. People want to see face beat big monster heel.

 

A tried and true formula.

[Austin3164life 0]

While it sounds stupid that Brock is jobbing (to UT no less) so soon, a part of that makes actual sense. Instead of rebuilding Brock immediately for another crack at the WWE World Title, they're going to re-establish the Brock Monster character, so once he's ready to face Angle he'll be extremely over. A clean job to Undertaker, the guy who helped put Lesnar over, isn't exactly the best way to start though.

[Adam 0]

Me thinks he'll get his job back in a month or so. (after build up)

[muzz 0]

It's plainly obvious, Bob Holly has taken creative control.

[Adam 0]

Penis Suplexes for everyone!

[humongous2002 0]

Screw Brock, never liked him to begin with, after getting that huge push it took the fans a long time to pop for this guy, but i agree that Taker shouldn't be the one to pin the vanilla gorilla, give somebody new a chance and i don't mean Atrain or Nathan Jones.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Regardless of my opinion of Lesnar this sort of treatment is retarded. "Paying dues" is an absurd excuse to job someone.

[Ultra Violence 0]

Personally I know this is a little off topic but Lesner either needs to shave his head or grow his hair. It would make him look a little less bland

[cabbageboy 0]

Guess what? They decided last year that Brock didn't have to "pay his dues" when they pushed him so insanely hard despite his almost total lack of heat.

 

I was afraid of this. I knew their attention span would wane with Brock the moment he wasn't getting as over as they liked. So essentially all the huge push and jobbing out guys like RVD to him was pointless.

[Downhome 0]

I'm ok with this, I really don't see the problem. I mean, he's been loosing CLEAN, making whoever beats him to look pretty good. Since he's turned heel he's jobbed clean, what, two times?

 

First first time to Angle, and as I was watching it, it was like one of those "magical" moments where I was on the edge of my seat going "tap damnit, tap!". As for laying down to Taker, blah. They obviously want to make Taker look fully like a main event guy, and I mark for Taker, so I'm ok with it, so sue me.

 

I think it's great that we're seeing a heel job cleanly to the faces, unlike a certain HHH. I look at this as a great thing, as I haven't seen/heard a single report about Brock complaining or refusing to do a job, or anything like that. I think this just shows that he is a team player, and come on...

 

...we all know this guy isn't going to get the Jericho/RVD/"insert wrestlers name here" treatment, as he's one of Vince's boys. There's nothing to get in a fuss about right now, nothing at all.

[Guest The Old Me]

:::looks at calendar:::

 

Hey it's time for our yearly Taker title reign!

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Since he's turned heel he's jobbed clean, what, two times?

But he's only had 2 "real" matches (I'm not counting the Spanky & Gowan squash/DQ's), losing clean in each. So, basically, he hasn't won a single match since the heel turn. Not exactly how you handle a montser heel.

[Guest THE MIGHTY THOR]

Guys lets not worry about the Lesnars, the Angles or the Cenas of this world, they are homegrown talent, in other words they might job clean to other WWE homegrown talent every now and then but will still have their spots no matter what. Lets worry about the RVDs, the Jerichos, the Guerreros or the Benoits, they truly need our support b/c they might never get a chance to get a real push in Vince's demented world.

[Guest Anglesault]

I'm ok with this, I really don't see the problem. I mean, he's been loosing CLEAN, making whoever beats him to look pretty good. Since he's turned heel he's jobbed clean, what, two times?

The last time he pinned a guy was in April. Problem.

 

They did this last winter with roles reversed. Apprently when Angle and Brock feud, what has to be dominant and the other has to be incompetant. I don't get it either.

[Guest Sakura]

The only reason he hasn't pinned anyone since April is because he has been destroying people with DQ. Big deal. It's not like they're making an issue and playing up how much of a loser he is. If losing twice is such a big deal for his character then he wasn't worth building up anyway.

[Guest Anglesault]

The only reason he hasn't pinned anyone since April is because he has been destroying people with DQ.

Big Show has pinned him twice. Angle has beaten him twice. He couldn't pin Albert or Johnny Stambolli when he fought them.

[cabbageboy 0]

The thing I don't quite get about UT beating Brock is that 1. Big Show was there to do the job (much like at Vengeance). 2. They already established that Brock > UT last year with the HIAC match, and this completely undermines it.

 

I don't mind a mini push for UT for the moment. I'm fairly sure he isn't winning the title, just giving him a little push to keep him quiet.

 

After that though, SMDN needs a whole new appraisal of the title scene. Brock hasn't drawn, Show obviously won't ever draw, UT is old. Time to flush out the main event scene and push some guys like Cena or Eddie.

[Downhome 0]

Pinning people means next to nothing in thes little nothing matches here and there on RAW. No one will remember him not pinning some random guy. The fans WILL remember him eating Spanky and Zach for lunch.

 

I do not feel that they should be treating him as they are at this time, but come on, it isn't going to hurt him. There is absolutely nothing to worry about concerning Brock Lesner, he's "protected".

 

Unlike RVD, Jericho, and the lot, Brock Lesnar will be paid back for his jobs, and he'll get put over huge.

[Guest Sakura]

Big Show has pinned him twice. Angle has beaten him twice. He couldn't pin Albert or Johnny Stambolli when he fought them

I'm pretty sure WWE isn't trying to say Brock can't beat Prince Albert and Stambolli.

[Guest Anglesault]

I do not feel that they should be treating him as they are at this time, but come on, it isn't going to hurt him. There is absolutely nothing to worry about concerning Brock Lesner, he's "protected".

I hate that mentality.

 

"Horrible booking hasn't killed him yet, so no reason to improve!

[Downhome 0]

I do not feel that they should be treating him as they are at this time, but come on, it isn't going to hurt him. There is absolutely nothing to worry about concerning Brock Lesner, he's "protected".

I hate that mentality.

 

"Horrible booking hasn't killed him yet, so no reason to improve!

I don't see what's so horrible here. Even though he's lost a few times here lately, only two of which even matter whatsoever, he has STILL been booked to look like an absolute monster, a threat to anyone in his path.

 

Like I said, he isn't being hurt by anything right now.

[CanadianChris 0]

As for the subtitle...

 

How stupid is this company?

 

Do you really want the answer to that?

[Guest Super Pissed Smark]

But horrible booking has killed him, attendance is down and the last buy rate was at Sid levels. These guys all need help and they're just not getting it.

[Ultra Violence 0]

I don't think we need to worry about Eddie, he seems to be doing ok

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Brock is a threat now?

 

Before he was a sure-thing.