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South Korea's baby-boomer parents in increasing numbers recently are sending their preschool youngsters for outpatient mouth surgery to snip the tissue under the tongue because they believe more tongue freedom will permit the children to pronounce the difficult "l" and "r" sounds that have long stigmatized many Asians when speaking English. "Learning English is almost the national religion" in South Korea, according to one educator quoted in a March Los Angeles Times report, but many authorities in South Korea say Asians' pronunciation trouble is purely cultural and that only a very few people are born with tight-enough tongues to be helped by these "frenectomies."

 

 

Is this an ethical thing to do? Seems drastic to me.

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This sounds about as stupid as a documentary I saw a few years ago where Asians had eye surgery to look more "American."

 

Heck, I am a native English speaker who can't pronounce r's worth a crap either, and I manage to get along just fine.

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Geez, some of the countries in that area (thinking of Japan mostly) have been westernized to the point of no return. Do they really need to make a full switch to a crap language like English also?

 

Engrish.com must be light now very happening, for surery that is.

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I didn't know it was physiorogical, I arways just figuled that they could plonounce their Ls and Rs collectly just by being immelsed in collect plonunciation.

Right--native-born Asian Americans seem to have no problem. Wouldn't you be fine if you were just raised in an English-speaking environment?

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Well, they all look alike. Now they all won't sound alike...

Will you ever shut the fuck up with your witless xenophobia? Its getting old. Maybe its time for a new gimmick?

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Will you ever shut the fuck up with your witless xenophobia? Its getting old. Maybe its time for a new gimmick?

Will you ever stop taking everything so seriously and acquire a sense of humour? Your constant holy crusades are getting pretty damn old too. Maybe it's time for you to find another folder to plague. Go find another playground where you can take shrill offense on behalf of other people at every ridiculously obvious irony.

 

Christ, and you have the gall to call other people "witless." You're its fucking epitome.

Edited by Cancer Marney

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Well, they all look alike. Now they all won't sound alike...

Will you ever shut the fuck up with your witless xenophobia? Its getting old. Maybe its time for a new gimmick?

Chill man. I thought it was pretty fucking funny.

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I didn't know it was physiorogical, I arways just figuled that they could plonounce their Ls and Rs collectly just by being immelsed in collect plonunciation.

Right--native-born Asian Americans seem to have no problem.

If fact, they seem to enunciate better than most of us.

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It's really hard to break out of a speech pattern once you're taught your primary language or languages. I'm trying to learn Japanese as a native English speaker and the pace at which they speak is nearly impossible for me to emulate without slurring my speech and butchering the accent.

 

On a side note, my friend was told that her Californian accent was really funny sounding in Mississippi and the Californian accent is supposedly one of the most neutral accents in the country.

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Will you ever shut the fuck up with your witless xenophobia? Its getting old. Maybe its time for a new gimmick?

Will you ever stop taking everything so seriously and acquire a sense of humour? Your constant holy crusades are getting pretty damn old too. Maybe it's time for you to find another folder to plague. Go find another playground where you can take shrill offense on behalf of other people at every ridiculously obvious irony.

 

Christ, and you have the gall to call other people "witless." You're its fucking epitome.

Sense of humour faliure? I have a sense of humour, that's why I got offended reading his post you see.

 

Holy crusades?? Witless xenophobia (50% of this shitty folder) is a cause worth fighting against. Maybe we could start one against those bigoted & half mad lesbian 'christians' too? :JOKE:

 

Irony???? You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word (which is more than likely) or you're just spouting the usual lame defence/explanantion of an unfunny racist crack by one of your fellow worthless twats. Am I right? You know I am.

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Oh, and for the record I love foreigners. If not for them who else would slaughter our livestock and work in the fields for measly wages?

 

Who else would make sure I have a clean hotel room?

 

Who else could keep employed thousands of INS workers?

 

Who else could cause America to put up those nifty Spanish only signs?

 

Who else could fill up newscasts with stories of sailing to America in nothing more than a wooden plank and life jacket?

 

Who else?

 

You friendly neighborhood xenophobe...

 

kkk

 

PS: I also hate plenty of people that were born in the United States. Does that count toward anything?...

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You forgot to mention the indespensible contribution that the Korean community has made to Nail Salons across the country.

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Oh, and for the record I love foreigners. If not for them who else would slaughter our livestock and work in the fields for measly wages?

 

Who else would make sure I have a clean hotel room?

 

Who else could keep employed thousands of INS workers?

 

Who else could cause America to put up those nifty Spanish only signs?

 

Who else could fill up newscasts with stories of sailing to America in nothing more than a wooden plank and life jacket?

 

Who else?

 

You friendly neighborhood xenophobe...

 

kkk

 

PS: I also hate plenty of people that were born in the United States. Does that count toward anything?...

Wow, and they actually let you have children? Astounding...

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Will you ever shut the fuck up with your witless xenophobia? Its getting old. Maybe its time for a new gimmick?

Will you ever stop taking everything so seriously and acquire a sense of humour? Your constant holy crusades are getting pretty damn old too. Maybe it's time for you to find another folder to plague. Go find another playground where you can take shrill offense on behalf of other people at every ridiculously obvious irony.

 

Christ, and you have the gall to call other people "witless." You're its fucking epitome.

Sense of humour faliure? I have a sense of humour, that's why I got offended reading his post you see.

 

Holy crusades?? Witless xenophobia (50% of this shitty folder) is a cause worth fighting against. Maybe we could start one against those bigoted & half mad lesbian 'christians' too? :JOKE:

 

Irony???? You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word (which is more than likely) or you're just spouting the usual lame defence/explanantion of an unfunny racist crack by one of your fellow worthless twats. Am I right? You know I am.

Ahh that Cancer Marney.. spending his days waging battles of witt against wrestling fans on an internet message board. What a life he must have! :cheers:

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I have a sense of humour, that's why I got offended reading his post you see.

No, I don't see. A sense of humour makes people less likely to take offense, not more.

 

Witless xenophobia (50% of this shitty folder) is a cause worth fighting against.

So essentially you're spending your days fighting against the xenophobia you believe comprises at least half the posts in a folder you consider "shitty" on an internet message board.

 

I'm curious, doesn't the futility and meaninglessness of your life ever depress you?

 

Irony???? You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word

I do, thanks. KKK's post was obviously a satire of racist attitudes. Many of his posts in this "shitty folder" exaggerate such attitudes to the point of absurdity in order to make them appear even more ridiculous than they inherently are. This is a specific application of irony (defintion 2a: "the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning") known as reductio ad absurdum. Look it up.

 

I know what the intent of KKK's post was because I go through this forum fairly regularly. His post followed an established pattern which is either unfamiliar to you or way over your head.

 

Am I right? You know I am.

No. You are wrong. You are ignorant. And you are foolish.

 

Take your pathetic little jihad somewhere else.

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Must be one heck of a life -- he is a she.

 

Oh, and I hate kids with a passion...

He, she, how am I to know?

Because it's painfully obvious to anyone who has ever read one of HER posts.

 

Oh and Anorak- STFU and get a sense of humour. There's nothing wrong with having one

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he, she, how am I to know?

So what you're saying is that all lesbians look like guys to you?...

No, I'm saying I didn't know HER gender. I've seen several posts referencing HER as a male. And why the fuck would I care if she's a lesbian or not? I'm not you.

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I hate being one of those "this is what I learned in school today" contributors that nobody likes, but this is what I learned in school today. Apparently babies can pick up any language for their first six months, but after that they are narrowed down into recognizing only the speech patterns of their parents' language. Thus if the Asian youths are exposed to English at a young age, they will understand their Rs and Ls at the expense of any Japanese linguistic dealies that English may lack.

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Apparently babies can pick up any language for their first six months, but after that they are narrowed down into recognizing only the speech patterns of their parents' language. Thus if the Asian youths are exposed to English at a young age, they will understand their Rs and Ls at the expense of any Japanese linguistic dealies that English may lack.

I remember hearing something similar while I was in school, too. Although it was expanded into how it's easier to teach children multiple languages than adults...

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