Guest T0rrent Report post Posted September 27, 2003 This makes me think that the WWE inflates there totals. RAW 68.03 % SmackDown! 31.96 % Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted September 27, 2003 It's a well known fact that the WWF gimmicks it's polls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thrall585 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 It is not which is the better show, it is which was the better show for this week. And there is no proof that WWE gimmicks their polls, but likely they do, however for the polls in which the numbers are absurd, it is because you can vote as many times as you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 It is not which is the better show, it is which was the better show for this week. And there is no proof that WWE gimmicks their polls, but likely they do, however for the polls in which the numbers are absurd, it is because you can vote as many times as you want. What planet have you been on? WWE defiently gimmicks their polls, but it is a pretty smart move by them. Granted, we have no proof of this, but it's true! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 Raw is better to me. I watch it every week and don't watch Smackdown usually. Smackdown puts on better matches, but something attracts me to Raw. Maybe because it is live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Super Leather Report post Posted September 27, 2003 I actually managed to catch Smackdown last night, and it's been a while. The last time I'd been able to see the show was when Zach Gowan called Vince McMahon a "son of a bitch." Sorry, that's what came to mind and the rest of the show sucked. I was actually pretty into it overall. Some observations... -Rey vs. Tajiri was my favorite match of the night, all things considered. They're going at it half speed (I guess that's the "WWE style" that everyone talks about), but I go nuts for the green (and red) mist every time. Tajiri aiming for the ribs throughout most of the match was a nice touch for that selling/psychology thing. -The segments between McMahon and Sable are REPULSIVE. -A-Train cutting a promo was cool. I don't give a fuck what anyone else says, and I've read them all. He's got a good voice and can project it. If they rearranged his wardrobe, he could be a One Mang Gang-ish heel and be fairly convincing. Give him a manager and it'll be sweet. -Bashams vs. Noble and Bradshaw was good simply for watching Noble get his ass kicked by Shaniqua. Nidia is hideous. So is Bradshaw, who should just ditch the APA thing and go for an IRS kinda gimmick for shits and giggles. -Haas vs. Guerrero was also pretty cool. Eddy's also wrestling at half speed and that kinda ticks me off and the frog splash looked a bit more tame in comparison. But it's Eddy so it's okay, right? Charlie Haas is someone I'd continue paying attention to. Kurt Angle push for this guy, but lay off making him look like a jackass in situations like they've done with Angle many a time. -The ending segment was a little weird for me, but it made the real world title look more valid. Brock's voice itself was decent enough and he didn't sound like a total jackass, but the script they gave him was kinda silly to me. Undertaker's speech was pretty silly as well, but it put over the title and that in itself is good. It was typical Underredneck promo fare, but I gotta admit, I like seeing the guy. "You better sleep with that belt..." I laughed. I used to think Stephanie was passably attractive, but not at this point. This show was a lot better than the last one I've caught. It'll probably be a while before I can see another one, so let's hope they stick with the quality approach that was there for most of the show. It's been a long time since I've last seen Raw, but I wasn't too impressed with anything at that time besides the RVD/Eddy ladder match spotfest. But as far as wrestling itself on that show was concerned, there wasn't anything worthwhile for me. There used to be a college bar where I could tune in for it, but my friends don't work there anymore. Anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murmuring Beast 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 Smackdown is certainly the better wrestling show, but there is something missing at the moment. The feuds are all quite samey, to be honest. Raw is mostly embarrasing and I wouldn't watch it with anyone because I'd be ashamed to call myself a wrestling fan after it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 Smackdown is by no means perfect, and not as good as it was this time last year, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of Raw, which is just plain bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted September 27, 2003 Actually I believe someone has watched a poll before and said the numbers have jumped a good 20-30% in a second before while the number of votes has stayed the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheArchiteck Report post Posted September 27, 2003 I've actually been enjoying Raw a lot more lately. It could be the Goldberg mark in me or just that I can't miss what Teddy Long has to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 I can't go through a RAW without dozing off these days. Smackdown is the far better show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 I think Smackdown is over all better, but there are little things on Raw that I like better then some things on Smackdown. Jericho, Christian promo's, womens wrestling, etc. I'll take those over Vince, Steph, Albert, Dawn, Torrie, Nidia anyday. Smackdown would be even better if I didn't read the spoilers but I can only blame myself for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thrall585 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 >>It is not which is the better show, it is which was the better show for this week. And there is no proof that WWE gimmicks their polls, but likely they do, however for the polls in which the numbers are absurd, it is because you can vote as many times as you want. >What planet have you been on? WWE defiently gimmicks their polls, but it is a pretty smart move by them. Granted, we have no proof of this, but it's true! I just said that there is no proof of it, but it is likely, or it is obviously true. NO SOLD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Adrian 3:16 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 Both shows have their problems. I'd say Smackdown is better because it has better matches and more fresh characters, and no JR and Lawler (which earns major points with me). But there seems to be something very static and predictable about it. Like the never ending feuds between Angle and Brock, or Benoit and Rhyno. Granted, its better than a never ending feud between the Dudleyz and La Res, but changing things up once in a while never hurts. Now Raw is just a mess. A few months ago, when evil Rock was back, Austin hadn't been totally castrated yet, and Jericho seemed to actually win matches here and there, I'd say it was better. But now I have to watch feuding announcers and Shane throwing his pudgy ass off high objects and besting unstoppable (in theory) monsters. Fuck Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 Neither show is better, but a lot of smarks love SD for the wrestling, while on RAW is more about cutting goofy promos which the average tv viewer loves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 -A-Train cutting a promo was cool. I don't give a fuck what anyone else says, and I've read them all. He's got a good voice and can project it. If they rearranged his wardrobe, he could be a One Mang Gang-ish heel and be fairly convincing. Give him a manager and it'll be sweet. -Bashams vs. Noble and Bradshaw was good simply for watching Noble get his ass kicked by Shaniqua. Nidia is hideous. So is Bradshaw, who should just ditch the APA thing and go for an IRS kinda gimmick for shits and giggles. Wow, we like, share a brain or something. And Bradshaw should legally change his name to Stockton Bondage for that new gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 RAW 1S B3TT3R BEECUZ IT HAZ TIHNGS LIK SHAN-OMAC JUMPIN OF TEH TITANTRON AN OMG HE IS LIK BSET WESRTLER EVR, MMMKAY? PLUS RAW HAS GODBERG OMG HE R0X0RZ U NO AN HE ALWAYZ WINZ AN SMACKDWON SUX CUZ THEY D0 TAHT B0RING WERSTLING SHIT I LIK MY SPORTZ ENTERTAINMENT U NO AN SD SUX RAW R0X! [/idiot] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 And Bradshaw should legally change his name to Stockton Bondage for that new gimmick. Have you seen him on Fox News? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 If it wasn't for Jericho, RVD, and Victoria, I wouldn't watch RAW at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 And Bradshaw should legally change his name to Stockton Bondage for that new gimmick. Have you seen him on Fox News? Was that him that said he'd "make that there Bill O'Reilly squeal like a pig, Texas-style"? If so, than I did. If not, than who was that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 (edited) To me, Smackdown has been the better show...both wrestling and entertainment wise. They've got better matches, obviously, outside of the McMahon stuff, the storylines are better...Smackdown's stuff tends to be simpler than Raw's, but it's more realistic, and as a result, easier to follow and get into. I love the little things with Smackdown, like the Tale of the Tape and Tazz's Keys to victory (although Angle and Brock didn't really play off the latter). I really don't know what to say about Raw. It's not as bad as it was last year around this time, but it still need a lot of work. First, they try to make it the entertainment brand when they've completely lost touch with what wrestling fans consider entertaining, there's too much focus on non-wrestlers...which wouldn't be a bad thing if they were used to elevate more undercard guys (for example, they could've replaced the Coach/Snow Vs JR King match with Stevie Richards Vs Tommy Dreamer, put Coach in Stevie's corner and JR in Tommy's corner with the same stipulations and got a much better effect), they rely WAY too much on comedy (I watch for violence, not for comedy), too many skits, too much talking, NO strong, dynamic face characters other than maybe Austin, and he doesn't wrestle, and the show suffers from a complete lack of realism. The only thing about Raw I really enjoy is the Women's division, and lately, even that's been a little too cartoony for my tastes. So overall, I think Smackdown's better. Edited September 28, 2003 by papacita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 If it wasn't for Jericho, RVD, and Victoria, I wouldn't watch RAW at all. Take away Jericho and Victoria, and you have the only reason I watch WWE at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 It goes back and forth. RAW was a lot better I think up until about when Shane really did get the best of Kane and dropkicked him in the fire. The Kane storyline was intriguing at first (and much better than Zach/Vince), but it all fell apart from there. Then you have Shane taking RVD's place, which means RVD with no focus and nothing to do once again. Announcers wrestling every week. Goldberg as champion. (who the hell can take him down besides HHH?) Steiner/Test feud and La Resistance/Dudleys. It's all just boring now, bleh. Smackdown on the other hand is starting to put more emphasis back on wrestling. Matches are longer than they were a month ago. Chavo's back, yay. We just had a fucking ironman. Eddie's got two belts. Last week, we had two Eddie matches and Rey/Tajiri. That's enough to make me look past the McMahon crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TonyJaymzV1 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Velocity, sucka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
