Guest The Old Me Report post Posted October 9, 2003 I think Ripper is right. There was no reason for this game to be made, other than to laugh at a stereotype and mock them. You forgot the other reason. To bring families around the world together for "game night". That's not shit I'd let my children be exposed to. Then you better hope they don't find the cock thread... My children will never find my online persona. Or I'll lie if they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Can't wait for Redneckopoly, and I wonder if there will be one for Hispanics called Burro-oply. Let's make one for Asians called "RiceFarmer-opoly" or "BoundFeet-opoly" Here's gay monopoly http://www.slypussproductions.com/gayopoly.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 No, I can't. It's just a big joke on all of the "stereotypes" of the ghetto. I'm willing there are blacks out there that see the humor in this. I know I'd be able to if someone came out with a southern game, or even something making light of Christian and religious sterotypes. So no, I see this as just humor, is nothing different than what we see in so many films and hear in music, this is just a rip of all of that. This isn't a knock on all black people, it's just a simple stereotypical joke on the ghetto, etc... For what it's worth, there is a hell of a lot of people out there where said sterotypes fit, I know plenty myself. Get the hell out of here with that "I know plenty myself" argument because it is complete and total bullshit. None of you know crack dealers that hooked their whole neighborhood on crack or say "yo, yo" after every sentence. You don't know guys that "saw some rapper flashin some Bling Blings and decided to jack da fool." You don't know anyone that owns a bunch of crackhouse or projects. Shit like this BUILDs the stereotypes and then people claim to know someone who is the embodiment of all of these stereotypes. The fact that their are blacks that aren't offended by this means absolutely shit to me, that doesn't change the fact that some racist guy made a racist game and it is a insulting piece of shit. When the logo for the game is a big lipped black guy holding a gun and some liquor, you are not going to sit here and tell me that its "just for fun, and isn't being racist". The game is being marketed to white customers as a way to poke fun at black people. the guy that made it knows this and you know it. All this "why can't we sit back and degrade other races...that not cool" anti-PC crap has just plain gotten ridiculous now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Seeing how the creator is Mr. Chang, I'm sure it's in the works. Although I'm sure we can do better than RiceFarmer-opoly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Can't wait for Redneckopoly, and I wonder if there will be one for Hispanics called Burro-oply. Let's make one for Asians called "RiceFarmer-opoly" or "BoundFeet-opoly" Here's gay monopoly http://www.slypussproductions.com/gayopoly.html And let's make Jewopoly too. In this game, you try to collect as much money and property as possible and... Wait, that's just original Monopoly. Nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Get the hell out of here with that "I know plenty myself" argument because it is complete and total bullshit. None of you know crack dealers that hooked their whole neighborhood on crack or say "yo, yo" after every sentence. You don't know guys that "saw some rapper flashin some Bling Blings and decided to jack da fool." You don't know anyone that owns a bunch of crackhouse or projects. Shit like this BUILDs the stereotypes and then people claim to know someone who is the embodiment of all of these stereotypes. But I really do know a bunch of people where quite a few of these stereotypes are real, I thought everyone did. Hell, I went to school with a BUNCH of people who share some of those stereotypes. Are you the sort that believes that shit like that isn't real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Snoop will be endursing this I can see it now. I thought it was just some internet joke, but then I read you can actually buy this game, I do find a lil humor in it as in its sad shaking your head type way, but its just enforcing stereotypes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 The game is being marketed to white customers as a way to poke fun at black people. If so, it might be working. Because I think this is bloody hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Get the hell out of here with that "I know plenty myself" argument because it is complete and total bullshit. None of you know crack dealers that hooked their whole neighborhood on crack or say "yo, yo" after every sentence. You don't know guys that "saw some rapper flashin some Bling Blings and decided to jack da fool." You don't know anyone that owns a bunch of crackhouse or projects. Shit like this BUILDs the stereotypes and then people claim to know someone who is the embodiment of all of these stereotypes. But I really do know a bunch of people where quite a few of these stereotypes are real, I thought everyone did. Hell, I went to school with a BUNCH of people who share some of those stereotypes. Are you the sort that believes that shit like that isn't real? To know if it is true, you have to know the person. Do you know what someone is doing or assume it becaue the look like the stereotype you have formed in your mind. Minorities put up with this racist bullshit on a regular basis way to much for some asshole and a nation clothing outlet to be pushing this like there is nothing wrong with it. All this is funny and cool, but let some one on seriously run down prowrestling on the news tonight and all hell will be rose in the WWE folder. "Fuck insulting a race, that has nothing to do with me because I'm not apart of it, but don't fuck with wrestling." Whats even funnier is there will be a thread in the CE folder about "WHy are blacks always talking about racism. It doesn't hardly exist anymore" But you can go to Urban Outfitters and buy a game that is the equivilant to the "blacks are watermelon, chicken eater that aren't as smart as whites" portrayal from the 50's. But thats fine because making fun of other races is COOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Few people would look at this game and say "It's funny cause it's true." They'd just say it's funny or not funny. Or be offended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 To know if it is true, you have to know the person. Do you know what someone is doing or assume it becaue the look like the stereotype you have formed in your mind. No, I know it's true. Like I said, I thought a lot of people knew people like that. Again, are you the type of person who actually believes that some stereotypes do not hold merit? I have nothing against you, and you know that. We've been cool the entire time we've known one another on TSM, at least that what I think. I'm just trying to understand this, and why you are apparently refusing to believe what I have said. But thats fine because making fun of other races is COOL. No, making fun of entire races is fucking cheap and THAT is racism, hating someone because of their culture and the color of their skin, that's racism and in no way is cool. I just happen to believe that when you take a stereotype, take it to the extreme, and make fun of THAT, it's funny. It's nothing against races, it's all about making fun of the stereotypes that people have created. I laugh at this game, just as I would if someone made a redneck or southern game of the same kind. There is no difference to me. Hell, I laugh at this game, just like I laugh at certain music and laugh at certain movies. I can list plenty of films that are more extreme than this, but are perfectly accepted by most people, and laughed at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Few people would look at this game and say "It's funny cause it's true." They'd just say it's funny or not funny. Or be offended. My problem isn't even if you find it funny or that it exist. there are far more racist things out there to be purchased. But how many are deemed to be so okay that national clothing chains carry them. That is my problem with it all. That somehow blatant racism has gone from being the norm, to being shunned to being "cool". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 And let's make Jewopoly too. In this game, you try to collect as much money and property as possible and... Wait, that's just original Monopoly. Nevermind. My vote for Post of the Year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 But how many are deemed to be so okay that national clothing chains carry them. Well, if that's your issue then, like I said earlier, the dollar will be the last to speak. If the games sell, they stay. If they draw worse money than a Triple H world tour, then they'll be gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 To know if it is true, you have to know the person. Do you know what someone is doing or assume it becaue the look like the stereotype you have formed in your mind. No, I know it's true. Like I said, I thought a lot of people knew people like that. Again, are you the type of person who actually believes that some stereotypes do not hold merit? I have nothing against you, and you know that. We've been cool the entire time we've known one another on TSM, at least that what I think. I'm just trying to understand this, and why you are apparently refusing to believe what I have said. But thats fine because making fun of other races is COOL. No, making fun of entire races is fucking cheap and THAT is racism, hating someone because of their culture and the color of their skin, that's racism and in no way is cool. I just happen to believe that when you take a stereotype, take it to the extreme, and make fun of THAT, it's funny. It's nothing against races, it's all about making fun of the stereotypes that people have created. I laugh at this game, just as I would if someone made a redneck or southern game of the same kind. There is no difference to me. Hell, I laugh at this game, just like I laugh at certain music and laugh at certain movies. I can list plenty of films that are more extreme than this, but are perfectly accepted by most people, and laughed at. No, I believe that the sterotypes have to start somewhere (although a vast majority of black stereotypes are built from blaxploitation films and not the actual people) but I have a hard time believing that you know crack dealers that are "jakin rappers for their bling blings yo". And once again, I know it is hard to guage reaction over the internet, but don't think I'm all firey and pissed or anything. This just another discussion...and I have to say shit and fuck alot because this is NHB and it has standards. ... shit fuck poo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Now that I got a good look at the game from shop area on the website, I'll point a few things that I observed: I notice a big lip bandanna thug, the game pieces are a: Basketball, AK 47, 40oz bottle, Pimp, and Hoe. The guy who made it is named Chang (asian) so I would say it is racist and its a minstrel game mocking black people targeting whites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 No, I believe that the sterotypes have to start somewhere (although a vast majority of black stereotypes are built from blaxploitation films and not the actual people) but I have a hard time believing that you know crack dealers that are "jakin rappers for their bling blings yo". And once again, I know it is hard to guage reaction over the internet, but don't think I'm all firey and pissed or anything. This just another discussion...and I have to say shit and fuck alot because this is NHB and it has standards. ... shit fuck poo. Well I hate to break it to you, but people like that really do exist. If not as a whole, bits and pieces of them in a number of people. I for one believe that MOST stereotypes start out with some sort of truth to them. It's when they are expanded upon, and people try to make it sound like an ENTIRE race acts like what the stereotype says, when it gets crazy. Have a hard time, but I do know people like that, they do exist. I know people who talk like that, live like that, do things like that, and all of that other shit. As I said, I was friends with a few in school. Maybe that shit just goes on here and not where ever you live, I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 But how many are deemed to be so okay that national clothing chains carry them. Well, if that's your issue then, like I said earlier, the dollar will be the last to speak. If the games sell, they stay. If they draw worse money than a Triple H world tour, then they'll be gone. I don't care if it sells, the problem is that this should really be in a niche market if you choose to create something based on racism and not deemed okay to be sold in Malls across america like they are a t-shirt. When something appear acceptable, people assume that it is. When something is this openly readily available, then it will be deemed acceptable. If someone started selling "Jew ashes....Straight from the Holocaust" as a novelty item by the counter at Wal-mart and they started selling like hotcakes...do hotcakes really sell that much. I think porn sells alot more and quicker...and they started selling like porn, it doesn't make it cool. Its still distasteful. And I would be all for it being removed from THERE. This is America and you can make and sell what ever insulting shit you want. I'm sure their is a game or two called Whitey Killer out there. But the shit isn't in Happy Meals at McDonalds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 I'd like to have a list of the places which will be offering this item, so that I can say which ones I feel are ok to be selling it, and which ones should not be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Sell it in a porn shop... or someplace where only white people go. Cause whether it's racist or not, I can't really see black folks buying this. Like... I don't know, Pottery Barn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Article said a place called "Urban Outfitters" is selling it. Wonder if there will be any protests around stores that sell those "Homiez" figures in the quarter bubble-gum machines?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Sell it in a porn shop... or someplace where only white people go. Cause whether it's racist or not, I can't really see black folks buying this. Like... I don't know, Pottery Barn. Hey black people go to porn shops. But I guess with "dick sukin hood hoes 43" in "Tame that Black Ass 14" there, you can't really claim to be insulted with anything. And Black people love pottery barn...well the women do. Yeah...thats why I was there...a woman... But a novelty place like Spencer Gifts, fine. People go in there knowing something is going to insult them. But if I go to Urban Outfitters to buy a "I'm Irish" T-Shirt, I shouldn't have to see this shit. It isn't like there is a short list of places that this could be sold and be in a acceptable environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Some of you people are really overreacting. But I know a few black people who'd buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Roscoes Waffles & Chicken and Ludacris concerts will be selling this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 If there were some real insulting stereotypes about white people that were available, then it would be even, but as it stands, white people get to sit back and laugh and mock every race with a free pass. I think my friend Cap put it best, "Its not our fault that black people haven't figured out a way to insult us yet that actually hurts. "White People can't dance" oooooohhhhhh...thats suppose to hurt?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Sell it in a porn shop... or someplace where only white people go. Cause whether it's racist or not, I can't really see black folks buying this. Like... I don't know, Pottery Barn. Hey black people go to porn shops. But I guess with "dick sukin hood hoes 43" in "Tame that Black Ass 14" there, you can't really claim to be insulted with anything. And Black people love pottery barn...well the women do. Yeah...thats why I was there...a woman... But a novelty place like Spencer Gifts, fine. People go in there knowing something is going to insult them. But if I go to Urban Outfitters to buy a "I'm Irish" T-Shirt, I shouldn't have to see this shit. It isn't like there is a short list of places that this could be sold and be in a acceptable environment. I've never been in a pottery barn myself, I was just guessing. But porn shops, yeah, there's nothing in the world less pc than porn (although it's pretty equal opportunity offensive). The best clothing store to sell it would be Hot Topic, because (sorry if I offend anyone) only idiots shop there. And idiots, much like rednecks, never get offended by anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted October 9, 2003 We can't dance? Where you get that from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted October 9, 2003 Sell it in a porn shop... or someplace where only white people go. Cause whether it's racist or not, I can't really see black folks buying this. Like... I don't know, Pottery Barn. Hey black people go to porn shops. But I guess with "dick sukin hood hoes 43" in "Tame that Black Ass 14" there, you can't really claim to be insulted with anything. And Black people love pottery barn...well the women do. Yeah...thats why I was there...a woman... But a novelty place like Spencer Gifts, fine. People go in there knowing something is going to insult them. But if I go to Urban Outfitters to buy a "I'm Irish" T-Shirt, I shouldn't have to see this shit. It isn't like there is a short list of places that this could be sold and be in a acceptable environment. I've never been in a pottery barn myself, I was just guessing. But porn shops, yeah, there's nothing in the world less pc than porn (although it's pretty equal opportunity offensive). The best clothing store to sell it would be Hot Topic, because (sorry if I offend anyone) only idiots shop there. And idiots, much like rednecks, never get offended by anything. I have to ask, what's wrong with not getting offended? Just curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 What about that age old saying, white men can't jump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2003 We can't dance? Where you get that from? It is a stand-up comedy "gem" that is in the same ranks as "Women be SHOPPIN", "Guys NEVER ask for directions, do they/we" and "What's the deal with airline food?". "White people have no rhythm" has long been another fall back joke that was probably funny in the mid 80's but comedians just have to let it go now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites