cynicalprofit Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 Lets say two wreslters went out there and did steamboat savage move for move, would it still get over? Would it still be a 5* match? Would it be booed outright? What about a flair steamboat match move for move redo?
razazteca Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 The current fans were not born when that happened, so as the old NBC slogan goes "It's New to Me"
Guest Choken One Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 they wouldn't even realize it was a carbon copy live and I doubt most would right away on tv... it's all depends on the wrestlers, I mean London and Kendrick could do it just fine but SOH and Rhyno? That wouldn't work well... I've always wanted to see a match that BLATANTLY rips off classic match, they should just take two wrestlers like Spanky and London and give them a week to learn a classic match for them to duplicate.
RavishingRickRudo Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 No, because the context would be different. Besides, those matches sucked. Ok, they didn't suck, but there are better matches to re-enact.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I cant wait..2 wrestlers will go out of their way to rip off a classic match, it will end up sucking and everyone on the net will be pissed as well.
Guest Choken One Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 No, because the context would be different. Besides, those matches sucked. Ok, they didn't suck, but there are better matches to re-enact. Id ask what matches but That's a can of worms... But for example I don't think you can duplicate a Match perfectly because such as the savage/steamer match...You need the aura of "93,000" people there, you could do it in the TNA bingo hall if you want but it wouldn't be the same... it's all about the aura, the feeling the story...
razazteca Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 Besides the announcers would not know how to put the match over anyway. Tazz & Cole maybe but not JR & King and Coach & Al would be completely clueless.
Guest Choken One Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 what does that have to do with the CROWD reacting?
Guest Choken One Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 well the question that was posed was about the CROWD...
cynicalprofit Posted October 16, 2003 Author Report Posted October 16, 2003 i was just looking to start a discussion on the idea period, take it where ever it needs to.
Gert T Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 Well DDP probably has his match with Goldberg written down from Halloween Havoc 98 still, so I guess they could use that one.
cynicalprofit Posted October 16, 2003 Author Report Posted October 16, 2003 Well DDP probably has his match with Goldberg written down from Halloween Havoc 98 still, so I guess they could use that one. What do you mean, probably; he had storyboards drawn out for it.
RavishingRickRudo Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I would like to see an homage to WM past matches in the weeks leading up to XX. It would be something fun and original.
Guest JumpinJackFlash Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 Remember that RVD/Jericho match from a month ago? Well, that would probably be equivalent to Savage/Steamboat of today, given the wrestlers who participated, the moves pulled off, the length, and the crowd reaction.
Guest OnlyMe Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 FWIW, I always thought a classic match recreation would be a cool addition to a wrestling video game. Obviously no interaction, just watching the character models doing the match. Wouldn't be that hard to implement, either...
PLAGIARISM! Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I think it's a very good idea to pay homage to certain sequences if they have any relevance to either of the wrestlers in the match, for example Austin bleeding in the sharpshooter at WMX7. But a whole match, deliberately?
Austin3164life Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 The current fans were not born when that happened, so as the old NBC slogan goes "It's New to Me" I think most wrestling fans are people who began watching over again in 98, and started watching the Hogan-era first.
Slayer Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 The other problem would be the storylines and buildups that made classic matches even more exciting would be horribly absent Ex: Steamboat attempting to avenge his "life-threatening" injuries against Savage Flair and Steamboat wrestling their hearts out for the most coveted belt in wrestling Bret and Owen fighting over sibling rivalry and a HUGE amount of personal pride If you just threw any two wrestlers out there to reproduce a classic match move for move... it just wouldn't work Let the new wrestlers make classic matches in their own style and story. I know we won't see it with the MAIN EVENT STYLE in the WWE, but there's hope for other feds (or outgoing 'E' wrestlers who just don't give a shit)
Austin3164life Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 Pat Patterson once said in a short speech about Wrestlemania (specifically about Bret/Austin II) that it takes the "right two wrestlers" to have that type of (great) match, and that "not anybody" can do it, so I don't think it'd work.
Guest Dynamite Kido Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I'm saying they wouldn't even notice.....
Guest MikeSC Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 FWIW, I always thought a classic match recreation would be a cool addition to a wrestling video game. Obviously no interaction, just watching the character models doing the match. Wouldn't be that hard to implement, either... AJPW Giant Gram on the Dreamcast basically had that, actually. Had to pull off certain moves in the proper order and you'd get clips of the match after you did it. -=Mike
Jack_Bauer Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I think having that in wrestling games would be damned cool.
OldSchoolWrestling Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I'm saying they wouldn't even notice..... I agree. Can't see too many people saying: "OMG, they just did a punch followed by a kick followed by a knee to the throat followed by an elbow off the top rope, followed by a 2.5 count followed by another clothesline. They're copying Savage-Steamboat from WMIII!!!"
RavishingRickRudo Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 The K-1 World Grand Prix PS2 game also had a feature where you 'relive' past matches and if you do it right (say, "kick ___'s leg"), you get to see a short match clip of the fight
Steviekick Posted October 16, 2003 Report Posted October 16, 2003 I think it's a very good idea to pay homage to certain sequences if they have any relevance to either of the wrestlers in the match, for example Austin bleeding in the sharpshooter at WMX7. But a whole match, deliberately? There's no reason to completely rehash a match from the past. But to pay homage to a famous spot, like Austin bleeding in the Sharpshooter, is perfectly acceptable, but should definitely not be overdone.
Guest Plushy Al Logan Posted October 17, 2003 Report Posted October 17, 2003 It only works in wrestling games with different people. It's funny to see a bloody Hogan tapping out to a Camel clutch from Axl Rose.
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