Guest CronoT Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I've got two: Suckbag, and Mark Henry.
Guest One Trick Pony Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Any coherent or useful debate that's supposed to be started by this topic? I always find Suckbag such a nice name for Randy Orton. All of one fucking letter is present in both and it isn't even a play on words or a past gimmick.
Guest Megatron Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Hidethesausage Mizark Big Slow Nate Jones Orton A-Train
DangerousDamon Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 NATHAN FUCKING JONES good day.
Guest CronoT Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Any coherent or useful debate that's supposed to be started by this topic? There's been a lot of talk recently about good midcarders who never got their time to shine, and are having to bend over and take it for the new guys who haven't even earned their place. Tommy Dreamer is simply the newest example, ala his match with Mark Henry at the RAW House show this past Saturday.
Guest Choken One Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Tommy Dreamer=Over rated as they come. Like most ECW mainstays he was protected in the confines of the ECW style. (This applies to RVD, Tazz and others). Dreamer, while one of the best promoers and most likely the nicest guy you'll ever meet (pretty much why he still has a job)...Never was special in the ring and You'd struggle to think of any match of Dreamer's that hit ***. While, Dreamer never had the ability to put on a good wrestling show, he had the ability like Hogan but on a HUGELY smaller scale (the usual 2500 crowds) to control a crowd with his actions (that's because he primarily studied Jake and Terry Funk). Is Tommy Dreamer a good wrestler? God No. The worst? God No.
Guest wildpegasus Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Hidethesausage Mizark Big Slow Nate Jones Orton A-Train A-Train is a good wrestler. Bis Show has had some good performances this year too.
Guest Choken One Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 The Big Show hasn't been able to rid himself of that stigma of being a bad wrestler because he REALLY sucked 1998-2002. Yes, He's been very good performence wise this year.
Bruiser Chong Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I don't agree with all of the Henry pushes, but this has to be the best one of them all. That doesn't say a whole lot, but for the first time, they're using him as he should be used. Putting Long with him was brilliant, as Henry's no longer forced to do his own promos and he comes off looking better with Long as his mouthpiece. His in-ring work may not be the best, but to me, he's been entertaining in his role since his return. Dreamer has a lot of heart, but he seemed like all he was good for was getting his ass kicked and eating hair and drinking toilet water.
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Dreamer better than Orton? Man, blind hate is a ma'fucker.
Guest CronoT Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Dreamer better than Orton? Man, blind hate is a ma'fucker. Orton was good when he was a solo heel. But now that he's part of a heel stable, he just sucks. Career-wise, I think it's good that he's starting to go out on his own again, but he gimmick is something that someone like Matt Hardy or Christian would do better with. As Anglesault once said, "Vince is using a plunger to shove Orton down our throats."
1234-5678 Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 IMHO, Dreamer may have had *** matches with the following people Rob Van Dam Raven Lance Storm Justin Credible CW Anderson True, he is a "garbage" wrestler, but he does it damn well. Remember his hardcore match with Stevie on Raw? Got one of the best reactions of the past couple years.
Guest JumpinJackFlash Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 The Big Show hasn't been able to rid himself of that stigma of being a bad wrestler because he REALLY sucked 1998-2002. ....But he's managed to find himself on every highest-rated segment in WWE history.
PLAGIARISM! Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 One thing that I liked about Tommy Dreamer when he first showed up in WWE just working heat matches was he actually produced a better formula match in the time given than everyone else. I don't see how he's overrated.
Youth N Asia Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Dreamer isn't a bad worker. He just doesn't work the American Dragon kind of matches that give Smarks boners. He's a decient brawler and the fans actually like him. He works watchable matches unlike The Big Show and Mark Henrey. I like Tommy.
nl5xsk1 Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Dreamer isn't a bad worker. He just doesn't work the American Dragon kind of matches that give Smarks boners. Another way that I know that I'm not a "smark" ... I'd take a Tommy Dreamer match over an American Dragon match any day of the week.
Guest Dynamite Kido Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Tommy Dreamer=Over rated as they come. Like most ECW mainstays he was protected in the confines of the ECW style. (This applies to RVD, Tazz and others). Dreamer, while one of the best promoers and most likely the nicest guy you'll ever meet (pretty much why he still has a job)...Never was special in the ring and You'd struggle to think of any match of Dreamer's that hit ***. While, Dreamer never had the ability to put on a good wrestling show, he had the ability like Hogan but on a HUGELY smaller scale (the usual 2500 crowds) to control a crowd with his actions (that's because he primarily studied Jake and Terry Funk). Is Tommy Dreamer a good wrestler? God No. The worst? God No. Now don't get me wrong, Dreamer ISN'T the greatest worker in the world or anything of the sorts. But I would give Dreamer vs. Raven's final match in ECW (their final battle before Raven went to WCW) ***.
Guest hunger4unger Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I can't think of one. I'm surprised that Dreamer is still around.
2GOLD Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Tommy Dreamer sells injuries like a master, the guy makes you believe his opponent is about to kill him. He can control a crowd with some of the best. He's a decent brawler but knows enough about the technical style to run head to head in a match with a person like Angle if he had too. He may not put on ring classics but the guy can work with anyone, sell better than the whole company, and is still getting cheers despite the fact he is never on tv. Yet he's benched.
dubq Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I'd rather watch an Orton match over a Dreamer match any day of the week.
Guest Jimbo Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Tommy Dreamer=Over rated as they come. Like most ECW mainstays he was protected in the confines of the ECW style. (This applies to RVD, Tazz and others). Dreamer, while one of the best promoers and most likely the nicest guy you'll ever meet (pretty much why he still has a job)...Never was special in the ring and You'd struggle to think of any match of Dreamer's that hit ***. While, Dreamer never had the ability to put on a good wrestling show, he had the ability like Hogan but on a HUGELY smaller scale (the usual 2500 crowds) to control a crowd with his actions (that's because he primarily studied Jake and Terry Funk). Is Tommy Dreamer a good wrestler? God No. The worst? God No. Now don't get me wrong, Dreamer ISN'T the greatest worker in the world or anything of the sorts. But I would give Dreamer vs. Raven's final match in ECW (their final battle before Raven went to WCW) ***. bleh, that wasn' thaaaat great of a match, rather it was the excitement of the culmination of the fued that amde it 'great'. I admit that I enjoyed the match, but when you put all of the storyline stuff aside, it hardly stands out.
Guest hunger4unger Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Isn't Dreamer pretty much banged up anyway and unable to work a full schedule?
Crimson Platypus Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Tommy Dreamer=Over rated as they come. Like most ECW mainstays he was protected in the confines of the ECW style. (This applies to RVD, Tazz and others). Dreamer, while one of the best promoers and most likely the nicest guy you'll ever meet (pretty much why he still has a job)...Never was special in the ring and You'd struggle to think of any match of Dreamer's that hit ***. While, Dreamer never had the ability to put on a good wrestling show, he had the ability like Hogan but on a HUGELY smaller scale (the usual 2500 crowds) to control a crowd with his actions (that's because he primarily studied Jake and Terry Funk). Is Tommy Dreamer a good wrestler? God No. The worst? God No. Now don't get me wrong, Dreamer ISN'T the greatest worker in the world or anything of the sorts. But I would give Dreamer vs. Raven's final match in ECW (their final battle before Raven went to WCW) ***. bleh, that wasn' thaaaat great of a match, rather it was the excitement of the culmination of the fued that amde it 'great'. I admit that I enjoyed the match, but when you put all of the storyline stuff aside, it hardly stands out. Why would you "put all of the storyline stuff aside"? That makes no sense at all. Are you saying that the storyline has nothing to do with the quality of a match? Nonsense.
Guest BDC Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 See, they had a chance for Tommy to break out huge when they instead stuck Spike in TLC 4 or 5 or whatever that was. Tommy would have absolutely won over the crowd, but instead, they went with Spike. Oh well, not the biggest screwup.
Guest One Trick Pony Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Tommy Dreamer just doesn't captivate a crowd through talking. He however has that ability to make the crowd go crazy for him just from being around. He is really good at selling and his body is shit right now but he still looks good at what he does. There are so many right now who have crappy bodies but can't put on watchable matches i.e. Funk, Steiner. Someone also brought up a great point that Dreamer knows how to work a great match in 5-7 minutes and less. That's something that TONS of WWE's guys haven't learned yet.
Elbarto997 Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Who sucks more than Tommy Dreamer? I would give a nominee to Goldust, Scott Hall, John Heidenrich, One Man Gang, and Bossman... And the winner is (drum roll)...
TheFranchise Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I point you to THE Bossman thread.
1234-5678 Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I'd rather watch an Orton match over a Dreamer match any day of the week. You must be a big fan of no ring psychology and crappy movesets.
TheFranchise Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 No, i'd also prefer an Orton match to a Dreamer match, but that's my personal opinion.
PsychoDriver Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Bob Holly, Nathan Jones, Matt Morgan, Hardcore Holly, Orlando Jordan, Cade, Jindrak, Thurman "Sparky" Plugg, The APA, Bob "Spark Plug" Holly, Big Show, Randy Orton, Any McMahon.. um "Bombastic" Bob Holly... Come on, Dreamer really isn't that bad... He gets the job done at least.
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