Lando Griffin 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I didin't see the cell phone incident when it happened, but I heard the announcers mention it later in the game. Then I saw it on Sportscenter, and thought, "That's pretty damn funny." But I didn't think it was too big of a deal. Then Monday rolls around and everybody is getting all indignant about it. What the fuck? It shows a disrespect for the game? Shut up, already! This is nowhere near as bad as TJ Duckett's celebration for scoring a touchdown while down by 30. Or the Texas A&M player who celebrated the tackle against Oklahoma while down by 70. To quote Eric Cartman, "What's the big fucking deal, bitch?" Are we that worried about hurting the other team's feelings? Why don't we just stop keeping score? That way, we all have fun and nobody loses!! And another thing. Every time somebody scores a touchdown and gives the ball to the official, the announcers verbally blow him and wish everybody was like that. Why? That would be dull. The NFL, and the indignant media asses, need to realize that entertainment = good. God bless you, Joe Horn, for bringing some fun into the No Fun League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I know. There needs to be more fun but then again it's not right to out and out gloat. I'm not sayin that that was what was done in this situation. But I think people that get in the other guys face and screams "What now bitch!? Who's your motherfucking daddy!?" are just plain wrong. No problem with celebration. Just don't out and out gloat and get in someone's face about it. Besides that paints a bullseye on your body when you're on offense next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 He called his mommy. Whats wrong with that? Its not like he called 10 prostitutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Rules for celebrations: 1) No "in your face" stuff (like what Damaru referenced) 2) No outside implements to aid in the celebration (i.e. no Sharpie pens, no cell phones, however TO grabbing the pom-poms is OK, since the cheerleaders have them on the field) 3) No 10 minute choreographed dance segments. Other than that, bring on the Worm, the Ickey Shuffle, "fun bunch", spike & sliiiiide, etc. (Joe Horn should have just treated the football like a cell phone, instead of having an actual phone) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 There is a fine line between celebrating making a big play, and trying to overshadow the whole sport and team by making a spectecale of yourself. Joe Horn sat and thought, I hope I score a touchdown so I can break out my cell phone and call someone...that will get me some press...instead, I need to score and help the team. Hell, I wasn't even against TO spikeing the ball in the middle of the dallas star years ago...thats cool..Sharpie's...too much. T.J Ducketts dance had me pissed though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy no nose 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I had no problem with the cell phone thing. The guy scored 4 TDs, that's ridiculous. I always say if you don't want the guy to celebrate then don't let him score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Horn did score 4 TD's, I think thats more embrassing letting someone score 4 TD's against your team than the Cell phone. Duckett's A-Town Stomp was wrong since they were down by 30. Chad Johnson's sign was funny thou I had no problems with that neither. Its all entertainment they are just trying endear themselves to the fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 "If you don't want the guy to pull a cell phone out of the padding for the goal posts, then don't let him score." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Personally, I think what Horn did was stupid, but I wasn't "offended." The ESPN announcers said that action may keep him from being a Pro-Bowler, which would be funny considering he had a career night. On the flipside I think it's worse that NFL players get fined for not tucking in their uniforms or rolling their socks up too high... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I saw the incident when it happened on tv. Joe Horn went for the phone at the goal post but could not find it, luckly a teammate was in on the joke and knew that the phone was on the other side and gave it to Joe for the Highlight of the Day. Terrell Owens still has better shocking celebrations such as the go to the 50 yard line run TWICE, the autograph, the pom poms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I love shit like this and I love the TV experts who make a big fucking deal out of it. It's not disrespecting the GAME of football. Some people simply take the GAME of football way too serious. This isn't Wall Street, it's a GAME. How is a player thinking about scoring touchdowns before a game, a bad thing? If you're an offensive skill position, you should be expecting to score. A player can plan out TD celebrations all they want, but come gametime they have to score the TD first. Isn't scoring a TD helping your team? Joe Horn did his job period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Say it with me: No Fun League Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I think he went over the line by planting a foriegn object under the goal post. I don't care so much that he did it, but I do think planting someone on the field is crossing a line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I think he went over the line by planting a foriegn object under the goal post. That's "international object" to you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I think he went over the line by planting a foriegn object under the goal post. That's "international object" to you I thought he stole a object that was for Iegn. I was ready to call him a theif until you cleared that up for me. Iegn is a cool guy and you should take stuff that is for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I think he went over the line by planting a foriegn object under the goal post. That's "international object" to you I thought he stole a object that was for Iegn. I was ready to call him a theif until you cleared that up for me. Iegn is a cool guy and you should take stuff that is for him. <blows whistle> That's it, off to the Bad Joke Penalty Box with you, Ripper No posting for five minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 *skates back out* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I have no problems with players doing theatrical, even premeditated, end-zone celebrations. I think Joe Horn was stupid because he penalized his team 15 yards in a close game (and only the Giants' ineptitude prevented them from capitalizing), and arrogant because he didn't do it after his first TD of the day. But if someone wants to celebrate like that, let them. If teams are so bent about it, keep the chap out of the end zone. It's the same argument I make about "running up the score:" if you don't want to give up points, stop the other team. Maybe if the NFL didn't fine players for wearing the towels an inch too long, then those players wouldn't feel the need to rebel with such a display. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 didn't the Ickey Dance get banned, then the owner wanted him to do it on the sidelines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 This is nowhere near as bad as TJ Duckett's celebration for scoring a touchdown while down by 30. Or the Texas A&M player who celebrated the tackle against Oklahoma while down by 70. I remember YEARS ago when the Cardinals were playing the Redskins, Washington was up by a lot of points late in the game. The Cards QB threw an interception and someone on the Cardinals team managed to flip the player who intercepted the pass. The Arizona/Phoenix player then began to do a "flex my muscles" pose, only to get tapped by a Washington player who then pointed up at the scoreboard. Funny stuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Admittedly, I'm a bit biased because I'm a Saints fan, but I think that the league should go light on some of the celebrations if everyone could agree it's original enough not to be covered by any current rule, such as Terrell's autograph incident. The cell phone incident was certainly novel enough that they should have said "OK, that was pretty funny, but don't fucking do it again" instead of hitting him up for $30,000, although that isn't too much money for him. Hell, he's also paying Michael Lewis's $5000 fine for digging the cell phone out of the goalpost padding for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 I find it funny no one has mentioned T.O.'s toss the snow up in the air after he scored the TD vs the Bengals. T.O. is the best at doing the wacky TD celebration (Sharpie, Pom Poms, Snow, Dallas Star) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 The cell phone incident was certainly novel enough that they should have said "OK, that was pretty funny, but don't fucking do it again" instead of hitting him up for $30,000, although that isn't too much money for him. Hell, he's also paying Michael Lewis's $5000 fine for digging the cell phone out of the goalpost padding for him. He got fined $30,000 for that? Lame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted December 17, 2003 You know what's pathetic? The fines levied for these "disrespectful" celebrations are as heavy or even heavier than the ones for dangerous play. $30,000 for the cellphone thing? That's more than they fine guys who lead with their head and launch themselves at vulnerable airborne receivers going over the middle for a ball. As for the uniform violation fines, I remember that after John Unitas died, Peyton Manning publically mused about wearing black hightops during his next game as a tribute. The league threatened him with a uniform violation fine (cuz you're supposed to wear white cleats, black cleats is a no-no), and he ended up not doing it. I find these facts of life in the National Fascist League much more disrespectful of the game and its heritage than creative use of a sharpie or a cellphone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 How did Horn know he'd score a TD in that end zone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lando Griffin 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 And Chad Johnson has been fined $10,000 for holding up that "Please don't fine me again" sign after his touchdown. How retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted December 17, 2003 I really got a kick out of CJ's more... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 That fine was way over the top. Lets understand me on this though...I have no problem with these guys that aren't going to be able to get out of bed without pain in 5 years celebrating when they score a touchdown. But I mean, PROPS. Come one. There is a line and I think breaking out props is it. The celebration is suppose to be because you are happy you scored. there is a certain impromptu feel about it, that someone got caught in the moment and showed alot of emotion. But when you are planting cell phones in the goal post, that whole feeling is gone. Pretty soon someguy will break out that ribbon that gymnist use and do a floor routine in the endzone the way its going now. The most kickass celebration of the week to me was when the Packers(I think) scored one touchdown, the reciever stoped and one of his teammates got on one knee and pretended to be taking pictures as the guy that scored did the GENERIC 80'S BLACK GUY POSES (they can be seen on the covers of all 80's hip-hop CD's). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted December 17, 2003 That's just as preplanned as the cell phone... Stuff like the Lambeau Leap and Icky Shuffle shouldn't count because those are treadmarks of those players/teams... The Pom-Poms and Snow from T.O was spontanteous and i enjoyed those more then the sharpie and the star. How much longer before fucking Marvin Harrison cracks and like...Shakes his hips or something? Will they fine him 50 thou? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 That's just as preplanned as the cell phone... Stuff like the Lambeau Leap and Icky Shuffle shouldn't count because those are treadmarks of those players/teams... The Pom-Poms and Snow from T.O was spontanteous and i enjoyed those more then the sharpie and the star. How much longer before fucking Marvin Harrison cracks and like...Shakes his hips or something? Will they fine him 50 thou? One day I am expecting Marvin to go all Rod Tidwell on the field for like 15 minutes then grab a camera and just scream "DO ANY OF YOU REALISE HOW FUCKING GOOD I AM!!! I AM FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!" And I wouldn't mind at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
