MrRant 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 By MARTIN WALLACE A STORM of protest erupted yesterday over revelations that shamed pop star Michael Jackson is to spend Christmas in Britain. And The Sun is today leading calls from all over the country to BAN the suspected paedophile from entering the UK. Jacko, who is facing nine child sex abuse charges, has been given permission by US authorities to visit Britain from today until January 6. But he is planning a party at his Neverland ranch in California this afternoon and is not expected to jet in until tomorrow at the earliest. We are demanding he be refused entry by immigration officials. And our call is being supported by a string of politicians and campaigners against child abuse. Des Turner, Labour MP for Brighton, said: “Britain needs to send out the clearest message to paedophiles that their crimes are evil and unacceptable. “I would like to see him barred until the charges against him are resolved.” Labour colleague Dan Norris, MP for Wansdyke, said: “He is clearly the most famous person in the world facing charges of paedophilia. “It is important we send out the strongest possible message that we take the protection of children seriously.” Mr Norris, a former social worker, added: “I would not welcome him being allowed into this country until after these matters are dealt with.” The grandmother of eight-year-old Sarah Payne, who was murdered by paedophile Roy Whiting, also backed a Jacko ban. Lesley Payne, 50, said: “As far as I’m concerned he should not be allowed into this country. We have a duty to ensure our children are protected.” The Association of Child Abuse Lawyers said it would be “highly inadvisable” to let Jacko come into contact with kids while the charges were outstanding. And Sun readers around Britain also believe the 45-year-old star should be refused entry. Gran-of-seven Rita Stephens declared: “We have a responsibility to protect our kids. If the shoe was on the other foot I’m sure the American authorities would not allow a person facing these allegations into their country, so why should we?” Rita, of Sedgefield, Co Durham, added: “If Jackson is found innocent that’s all well and good, but in the meantime we have to take steps to ensure our children are not put at risk.” Jackson, who is on £1.7million bail, has had his passport returned by US authorities so he can visit this country. Officially the trip is to promote his greatest hits CD, Number Ones, which is currently at No3 in the album chart. But sources close to the star say he is also desperate to escape media attention in the States. Jackson was this week charged with seven counts of molesting a boy under 14 and two counts of supplying booze to a child with intent to commit a crime. The charges allege that “lewd and lascivious acts were committed upon and with the body parts and members of a child under 14 with the intent of arousing and gratifying the lust, passions and sexual desires of the defendant.” Prosecutors say there was “substantial sexual contact” between Jackson and the unnamed child, believed to be cancer victim Gavin Arvizo, who was 12 at the time of the alleged offences in February and March this year. Gavin appeared on Martin Bashir’s famous ITV documentary about Jacko, and the pop star was filmed holding hands with the lad. Jackson has branded the allegations a “big lie” and vowed to fight them with every fibre of his soul. He is due to appear in court in California on January 16. His legal team is being helped out by top defence lawyer Johnnie Cochran, who is best known for defending OJ Simpson. The Home Office said last night it would not comment on individual immigration cases. But a spokesman said only people with criminal convictions were usually refused entry. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-20035...3583509,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 Fuck Britain. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted December 20, 2003 If it was some random guy named Robert Tonklin and not Michael Jackson would you be saying fuck Britian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted December 20, 2003 Jackson has every right to come to the UK - he hasn't been convicted of anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 (edited) Fuck Britain. UYI The UK already has its own MJ The REAL MJ pic was a tad too big to be posted. Edited December 20, 2003 by Renegade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Looks like he has backed out of it now good, last thing we need is some freak over here getting publicity, fuck off back to america MJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Fuck Britain. UYI I resent that comment. Especially coming from you UYI. I have no problem with Jacko coming into Britain. I'm not condoning child abuse, but he has not been convicted of anything so he is welcome. The Sun is a piece of shit anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Internet Warfare 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2003 Lesley Payne, 50, said: “As far as I’m concerned he should not be allowed into this country. We have a duty to ensure our children are protected.” Yeah, cause as soon as Jackson steps off the jet he's gonna grab a couple of boys and molest them in the limo on the way to the hotel... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Billy Stark Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Fuck The Sun and their right wing blood wagon. FUCK Murdoch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Lesley Payne, 50, said: “As far as I’m concerned he should not be allowed into this country. We have a duty to ensure our children are protected.” Yeah, cause as soon as Jackson steps off the jet he's gonna grab a couple of boys and molest them in the limo on the way to the hotel... Exactly what I'm thinking. Like he's really gonna try anything with these charges against him. My thoughts on the charges are that he's innocent until proven guilty. I simply find it disgusting that our society sexualizes everything. If, say, some well-known, but slightly-out-of-date actress decided to share her bed with her friend's daughters or something, then there probably wouldn't be as much of an outrage. But, since it's a guy, and a famous one, who shares his bed with boys, it's OMGSOEVIL!!!111!!! Despite the fact that it's been well-known that Michael Jackson lost most of his childhood. Personally, I think he's just making up for that now. Like, having sleepovers or whatever. He said somewhere that he and the boys will watch TV, eating cookies and milk or something like that. Strange, yes, but pedophilia? I doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 How many people under arrest, charged with a crime ARE allowed to leave the country??? For god sake people, it shouldn't even BE the fact that he's a suspected pedo that is the problem. He is accused of a crime, he shouldn't be leaving the country unless it is a matter of life and death of a member of his family. Why the hell does he deserve special treatment?? I don't care what he was accused of, he shouldn't be allowed to leave the country while accused of a crime. Hell, most regular people can't leave a damn state or county when accused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 2Gold is ABSOLUTELY correct. Individuals accused of a crime as serious as child molestation shouldn't be allowed to leave the country at will - does no one here remember Roman Polanski? My thoughts on the charges are that he's innocent until proven guilty. I simply find it disgusting that our society sexualizes everything. If, say, some well-known, but slightly-out-of-date actress decided to share her bed with her friend's daughters or something, then there probably wouldn't be as much of an outrage. Don't be getting foolish, now. Grown men do NOT share their beds with preteen / teenage boys. I don't care if that man had a fucked up childhood. Hell, lots of us have had fucked up childhoods, it doesn't make us want to cuddle with a 5th grader. Where the hell is this notion of innocence coming from? Not in whether he's guilty or innocence - I'm asking, where the hell do you people get the idea that there's NOTHING illicit that could possibly be going on with a grown men who feels he needs to sleep with kids? Is it the fame? Cause I would imagine that if you heard that Joe Blow down the street liked to throw sleepover parties for adolescent boys just because he "loved kids", you'd probably be a little uncomfortable letting your kid in on the "fun" - or at least I hope you would. As for your woman analogy, two words: Paula Poundstone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Grown men do NOT share their beds with preteen / teenage boys. I don't care if that man had a fucked up childhood. Hell, lots of us have had fucked up childhoods, it doesn't make us want to cuddle with a 5th grader. I'm not one to say he's the only one with a fucked-up childhood. *shrug* Maybe he's more emotional than what we're normally used to. I'm not saying he's gay; that's not my business, after all. I'm asking, where the hell do you people get the idea that there's NOTHING illicit that could possibly be going on with a grown men who feels he needs to sleep with kids? I just compare it to an older sibling sharing a bed with a younger sibling. That's how I view it. While I see nothing wrong with him liking and wanting to be around children, yes I'll admit that perhaps sleeping in the same is going too far. Then again, Michael probably still has the mentality of a child; thus, not able to understand how such a thing could be viewed as wrong in today's society. As for your 'Joe Blow' analogy......that's too vague. It all depends on how 'Joe Blow' is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 So, is the Sun meant for stories so loony and blatantly right-wing that they didn't make it into the New York Post? Rita, of Sedgefield, Co Durham, added: “If Jackson is found innocent that’s all well and good, but in the meantime we have to take steps to ensure our children are not put at risk.” Yeah, I mean, in three days, he could have sodomized half the 8-10 population. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Sleeping in the same beds with childs that are not yours crosses the line. Hell, if the kid is over 12 and it is yours, sleeping in the same bed might be crossing a line. But that is not what upset me about this story. It's the fact he is even allowed to leave the state while facing charges. And raise your hand if you DON'T at least think Michael needs help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Sleeping in the same beds with childs that are not yours crosses the line. Hell, if the kid is over 12 and it is yours, sleeping in the same bed might be crossing a line. But that is not what upset me about this story. It's the fact he is even allowed to leave the state while facing charges. And raise your hand if you DON'T at least think Michael needs help? Jackson needs some help. I ALSO think that the kid's parents should face charges. If you let your child spend time with a man who spent $20M to settle a child molestation case 10 years earlier, you shouldn't BE a parent. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Sleeping in the same beds with childs that are not yours crosses the line. Hell, if the kid is over 12 and it is yours, sleeping in the same bed might be crossing a line. But that is not what upset me about this story. It's the fact he is even allowed to leave the state while facing charges. And raise your hand if you DON'T at least think Michael needs help? Jackson needs some help. I ALSO think that the kid's parents should face charges. If you let your child spend time with a man who spent $20M to settle a child molestation case 10 years earlier, you shouldn't BE a parent. -=Mike I can agree with that last statement, yes. Honestly...I can't see letting my child stay with a man who doesn't have kids and lives in a playland....that alone wonder scare the hell out of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Not made by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamsherm 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 Michael does have kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2003 If, say, some well-known, but slightly-out-of-date actress decided to share her bed with her friend's daughters or something, then there probably wouldn't be as much of an outrage. I bet there would be if some of those girls started accusing her of molesting them. I agree with those who say that him leaving the country while charged with a crime is wrong, period. I was under the impression that you weren't allowed to go ANYWHERE while you had charges pending, which really, only makes sense. I mean, I doubt that MJ is going to try and flee, and even if he did, he wouldn't get far (Who doesn't know what he looks like?) but really, the law should apply to him the same as everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2003 Fuck Britain. UYI Fuck our Government. Not us. God knows they don't speak for us these days. MJ is presumed innocent till proven guilty. Personally, I think he's a very sick man who needs to be locked up for his own good and the good of those around him. But he has the right to continue his career. I don't see him cruising the streets of London for kids right now. And yeah, any parent who allows their child to spend time alone with any single man they don't know should be charged with negligence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites