Guest reshad974 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I talked to my "insider source" once again. You all know who he is by now. I do know that a lot of people don't believe me even though I was right on many occasion but some does. So for them, here is some information regarding Chris Benoit : - he was rather unhappy about moving to Raw because he'd rather face Lesnar at WM XX with whom he is sure to have a great match. He thinks that his jump to Raw came out of nowhere from a storyline standpoint. The good point is that he can wrestle guys he has never wrestled before and travel with his good buddy Chris Jericho. - he doesn't want HBK to be part of his match against Triple H because he thinks it's his time to be in a high-profile programm and doesn't want anyone to overshadow him. However, he would like wrestling HBK before or after WM. - he'd rather loose a great wrestling match that winning a bad one so beating TripleH at WM XX is not his main concern. - he has some concerns about Vince wanting to do a Montreal finish at Backlash in Edmonton. He doesn't mind loosing in his hometown as long as he is not humiliated in front of his family and friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KJ Brackish Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Exactly what I said about the HHH - Benoit thread..... I'm worried that Vince will pull a Montreal in Benoit's hometown. As much as I don't like Benoit, I think we all would agree that he doesn't deserve that. If they decide to take the belt off of him, do it in a creative, non character-destructing way. I'm not too sure about your "SOURCES" , but if I were him, I'd have the same exact feelings. DFA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Repo Man Reborn Report post Posted February 3, 2004 When does the "Montreal finish" get old? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Is Benoit at any risk of jumping to TNA or somewhere else? I can't see Vince doing a Montreal finish unless that is the reason. Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, Vince could not risk having his world title appear on Nitro and was probably worried about a repeat of the Alundra Blaze fiasco (tossing the title in the trash). I'm not saying Bret would have done such a thing, but if an angle like that had appeared on Nitro, the results for Vince would have been devastating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reshad974 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Is Benoit at any risk of jumping to TNA or somewhere else? I can't see Vince doing a Montreal finish unless that is the reason. Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, Vince could not risk having his world title appear on Nitro and was probably worried about a repeat of the Alundra Blaze fiasco (tossing the title in the trash). I'm not saying Bret would have done such a thing, but if an angle like that had appeared on Nitro, the results for Vince would have been devastating. dude we are talking about a "fake" Montreal finish ala Rock vs Foley ( Survivor Series '97). ok ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 When does the "Montreal finish" get old? 1997. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 If, and this is a huge IF, Chris Benoit wins the title at WrestleMania XX I see them indeed going for the "Montreal finish". However, instead of the plan going through, I could very well see Bret Hart coming out to prevent it from happening. I would almost rather the guy not be at WM and have this to happen. After the match he celebrates with Benoit, and everyone in the crowd goes absolutely ape shit. Add in Bret punking out HBK or Vince, or even Hebner, and you have the makings for the #1 moment of 2004. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Is Benoit at any risk of jumping to TNA or somewhere else? I can't see Vince doing a Montreal finish unless that is the reason. Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, Vince could not risk having his world title appear on Nitro and was probably worried about a repeat of the Alundra Blaze fiasco (tossing the title in the trash). I'm not saying Bret would have done such a thing, but if an angle like that had appeared on Nitro, the results for Vince would have been devastating. Um, I think he was talking about from a storyline standpoint.. not an actual screwjob in Edmonton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Insider source my ass... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 "No! He took away our title which looks like the WCW title but with 1 1/2 years of history behind it! However will we make it back up?!!!??!" - Vince McMahon after Benoit takes the title to TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Insider source my ass... Is that proposition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 3, 2004 From My Insider Source -Eddy Guerrero is said to be tired of being a Headliner and is asking to reunite with former tag team partner Perry Saturn for a Streak of Velocity Matches with The Bashams. -John Cena has recently replaced his Jay-Z Collection with the Greatest Vince Gill Hits Collection -The Big Show was spotted eating a Salad with Water -Spike Dudley was caught using Steroids backstage and is expected to receive a push -Rumors have it that Vince McMahon is considering doing a program with Long time rival, Bob Costas but contract neogotations have stalled plans. -Kamala is expected to return after WM and should get a I.C title push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Dude, your sources fucking suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 No kidding. Hey, can you find out whether RVD is unhappy with his push too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Is Benoit at any risk of jumping to TNA or somewhere else? I can't see Vince doing a Montreal finish unless that is the reason. Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, Vince could not risk having his world title appear on Nitro and was probably worried about a repeat of the Alundra Blaze fiasco (tossing the title in the trash). I'm not saying Bret would have done such a thing, but if an angle like that had appeared on Nitro, the results for Vince would have been devastating. Let me clear this up because I see this brought up a lot. It was IMPOSSABLE !!!!!!!! for Bret to show up on Nitro with the belt. This is just an excuse used by the WWE to make them not look as bad and have people side with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 What push? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Is Benoit at any risk of jumping to TNA or somewhere else? I can't see Vince doing a Montreal finish unless that is the reason. Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, Vince could not risk having his world title appear on Nitro and was probably worried about a repeat of the Alundra Blaze fiasco (tossing the title in the trash). I'm not saying Bret would have done such a thing, but if an angle like that had appeared on Nitro, the results for Vince would have been devastating. Let me clear this up because I see this brought up a lot. It was IMPOSSABLE !!!!!!!! for Bret to show up on Nitro with the belt. This is just an excuse used by the WWE to make them not look as bad and have people side with them. The champs travel with the belt and he was still champ. Sure they might have asked him for it before he actually lost the belt but if they were smart enough to think that far in advance he wouldn't have been champ so close to his departure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 -Kamala is expected to return after WM and should get a I.C title push. *marks out* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 You know what, I'm not going to disagree with him anymore since his "source" has been dead on lately. I'm finding him a lot more reliable than Bob or Dave by this point. If he's wrong, he's wrong. But he's been right enough that I have no problem buying that in a sense it's true to word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 -The Big Show was spotted eating a Salad with Water Classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I'm claiming donkey balls on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I don't see any problems with a worked screw job finish ala Montreal as long as it's a great match. Benoit isn't going over unless he pins HBK (don't kid yourself for one second that HHH will lie down). With it being in Benoit's hometown and (most likely) billed as his first big opportunity at "the big one", those involved in the screwjob should get a ton of heat. WWE will also get some mileage out of the feud with a re-match or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Is Benoit at any risk of jumping to TNA or somewhere else? I can't see Vince doing a Montreal finish unless that is the reason. Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, Vince could not risk having his world title appear on Nitro and was probably worried about a repeat of the Alundra Blaze fiasco (tossing the title in the trash). I'm not saying Bret would have done such a thing, but if an angle like that had appeared on Nitro, the results for Vince would have been devastating. Let me clear this up because I see this brought up a lot. It was IMPOSSABLE !!!!!!!! for Bret to show up on Nitro with the belt. This is just an excuse used by the WWE to make them not look as bad and have people side with them. The champs travel with the belt and he was still champ. Sure they might have asked him for it before he actually lost the belt but if they were smart enough to think that far in advance he wouldn't have been champ so close to his departure. Forget the exact details but it has to do with legal stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted February 3, 2004 The belt was at ringside during the Montreal Match so technically it could have been taken away from Bret at any given time. There again, WCW could have had a replica made and done the angle anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Forget the exact details but it has to do with legal stuff. You know, you'd think that if WCW couldn't legally show a WWF Championship belt on their shows, then 1. The J-Crown belt would never have been on WCW TV, and 2. Madeusa would've never thrown the WWF Women's title in the trash on WCW TV. Outside of physically taking the belt away from Bret, how was it impossible for him to have it on WCW TV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I talked to my "insider source" once again. You all know who he is by now. I do know that a lot of people don't believe me even though I was right on many occasion but some does. Gee, I wonder why no one believes you? Anyone here on these fucking forums could throw some shit at the wall, and eventually some of it will stick. I predict Rob Conway will win gold. Just because he wins a title somewhere down the line doesn't mean that my credibility goes up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Forget the exact details but it has to do with legal stuff. You know, you'd think that if WCW couldn't legally show a WWF Championship belt on their shows, then 1. The J-Crown belt would never have been on WCW TV, and 2. Madeusa would've never thrown the WWF Women's title in the trash on WCW TV. Outside of physically taking the belt away from Bret, how was it impossible for him to have it on WCW TV? Trust me on this. I wish my memory was better so I could remember details but there was NO way Bret could take the belt to Nitro. Meltzer talked about it before I think so you might be able to find something on the web. And Vince was reported to know this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I talked to my "insider source" once again. You all know who he is by now. I do know that a lot of people don't believe me even though I was right on many occasion but some does. Gee, I wonder why no one believes you? Anyone here on these fucking forums could throw some shit at the wall, and eventually some of it will stick. I predict Rob Conway will win gold. Just because he wins a title somewhere down the line doesn't mean that my credibility goes up. Yeah, but what about when ALL of it sticks? Even before it's reported anywhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Forget the exact details but it has to do with legal stuff. You know, you'd think that if WCW couldn't legally show a WWF Championship belt on their shows, then 1. The J-Crown belt would never have been on WCW TV, and 2. Madeusa would've never thrown the WWF Women's title in the trash on WCW TV. Outside of physically taking the belt away from Bret, how was it impossible for him to have it on WCW TV? Well, he was under contract until November 30th and the Montreal match was on the 7th. The belt itself wasn't in any immediate danger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites