EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Ok, I thought the interview that HHH did was very good, alittle to long but, good. He put some heat into and showed how much this match and winning the title means to Benoit even if it is the "fake belt" and I almost forgot about HBK. But, then it came to an end with Shawn as he came out said that what him and Hunter is bigger then any dream that Benoit has every had. So pretty much he down played Benoit's dream and made him to be the 3rd man out. Then he says that this as been building for 10 years. HOW? Really I mean how is that? Then HBK superkicks Benoit and signs the contract. Well we know it was going to happen but, I didn't think it would be this bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I thought they were a little off-key.....but still better than Avril Lavigne. And ah yes, the contract signing was okay too. Thinking about it, this storyline makes Benoit's quest look even better. Not only did he have to go through 30 men to get a title shot....not only does he have to deal with the legacy of Triple H.....now he had to deal with somebody stealing the title shot from right under his nose at the contract signing!! It painted Michaels as a tweener, and Benoit as the face, which is the way it should be. This only adds another obstacle for Benoit, which will make his win look all the more sweeter if he DOES win at WrestleMania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I think I watched a literal showing of "You set him up (HHH), and I'll knock him down (HBK)". It's a Kliq world. Benoit only lives in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I could've done without the Triple H speech. And the whole idea behind it was just stupid. HBK signing the contract shouldn't matter at all since Benoit earned it all ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I wish HBK would just fuck off and go back whereever the hell he was when he retired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cran Da Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 It sucked. The end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I wish HBK would just fuck off and go back whereever the hell he was when he retired. Heaven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Why didn't they continue building on it, is what I want to know. All we got was Benoit pouting backstage and Bischoff trying to calm him down. If they really wanted to get him over as a threat, they should have had him hunt down HBK in the locker room and slap the Crossface on him. Referees swarm around, Benoit refuses to release, screaming incoherently about "My shot! MY shot!" But, instead, we got the continued burial of Benoit. I think the whole thing was entirely unnecessary...the second that I saw HBK start to step away, I knew that the superkick was coming...if Benoit is supposed to be the best that Smackdown has to offer, then HHH and HBK are doing a great job of burying Smackdown as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 It's nice how HBK and HHH have to get their piece across and leave Benoit with DICK ALL to say at the end except "ME WANT TITLE SHOT!". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deebo Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I loved it. It cements HHH as the heel, HBK as the tweener, Benoit as the babyface. HBK and HHH have been doing everything to put Benoit over since Royal Rumble, so quit bitching about one fucking promo. Big deal. Benoit didn't lose anything from this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 What I half expected.... is that after all of HHH's Rant.. Benoit simply go.. "Are you done?" HHH nods and Benoit signs the Contract and fires a Snot rocket at him.... HBK comes down does his drama Superkicks Benoit and Signs his name under Benoits for a triple threat... but No they gotta stretch it out the next month or so with Poor HBK's CONFLICTED Emotions about Superkicking Benoit..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 what happened to the ol' concept, "WINNER OF THE ROYAL RUMBLE GETS THE TITLE SHOT AT WM" period, EOS. !?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 As someone else said in another thread, it's fucking stupid for them to even pretend like Michaels deserves this title shot. "Listen, I know that the past two title shots I've had, I've fucked up and we've tied, but I know that I can do it this time! Just like how I said I knew I could do it last time...and the time before that...but this time, it's different! I don't care if you wrestled for sixty-two minutes, I'm Hunter's friend, so I get a title shot, too...and I'll probably win." :::superkick::: Let me get this straight...HHH lobbies to bring Benoit over from Smackdown because he doesn't have any new opponents...then he decides that he wants to have HBK in the match with him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 what happened to the ol' concept, "WINNER OF THE ROYAL RUMBLE GETS THE TITLE SHOT AT WM" period, EOS. !?! See, the thing is that never happens. Vince faced Austin in 1999. Big Show and Rock fought in 2000. Final Four match in 1997, all didn't matter in the end. HHH had to face Angle in 2002. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Things were funky since Benoit switched brands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I won't use the word "burial" just yet, unless Benoit gets destroyed by Michaels next week and some "beat the winner of the Royal Rumble and you're the new #1 contender" clause comes out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 As someone else said in another thread, it's fucking stupid for them to even pretend like Michaels deserves this title shot. "Listen, I know that the past two title shots I've had, I've fucked up and we've tied, but I know that I can do it this time! Just like how I said I knew I could do it last time...and the time before that...but this time, it's different! I don't care if you wrestled for sixty-two minutes, I'm Hunter's friend, so I get a title shot, too...and I'll probably win." :::superkick::: Well, the whole concept is: Shawn Michaels never lost. In his first title match with HHH, there was a draw based on a technicality. In the second match, there was another draw. But through it all, Michaels didn't lose. In fact, he came extremely close to winning both times. But, if Benoit didn't jump to Raw, Michaels would have gotten a third title shot. Guaranteed. However, Benoit DID jump to Raw....and stopped Michaels from getting his "deserved" title shot in the process. Shawn told Benoit he should have stayed on Smackdown....he could have had his title shot peacefully, since there was no real contender standing in the way. But on Raw, Michaels is still rightfully the #1 contender considering he hasn't lost to the champion yet. So admittedly, Michaels knows Benoit earned the shot because he won the Royal Rumble. But he made a choice by jumping onto Raw and ruining Michaels's practically guaranteed title shot at WrestleMania. As a result, Michaels had no choice but to grab it back by superkicking Benoit and signing the contract himself. Not saying I agree with the storyline - but it does have some logic to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 That's the thing, it really is logical. I'm just irked that they'd do the logical thing NOW of all times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 HBK and HHH have been doing everything to put Benoit over since Royal Rumble, so quit bitching about one fucking promo. Big deal. Benoit didn't lose anything from this. Does "everything" require putting themselves over Benoit first? Benoit didn't lose anything from this? 1) HHH punked him out in-ring and he didn't respond. He didn't sign the contract, he didn't say anything to him. This makes Benoit look BAD. 2) HBK said him vs. Hunter is "beyond" any contract (aka, beyond Benoit and what Benoit has done since that contract represents his chance at vindication) and Benoit said "yeah, you're right". This makes Benoit look BAD 3) With HBK signing the contract and superkicking Benoit and Benoit *not responding at all 'cept for bitching at Bischoff* it makes Benoit look BAD. 4) They keep bringing up this loophole and never actually say what it exactly is or was. They say that Benoit has worked hard over the past 18 years all over the world, but they never show any of it. Why should the fans believe ANY of this? They are basically being told (rather than shown) why they should cheer Benoit which does him no favours. When they say something and don't deliver on it, it makes Benoit look bad. 5) Benoit's Royal Rumble win is now officially meaningless since HBK can get there at a motion of a pen. This makes Benoit look bad. 6) Benoit did not come out first thing on the show. He has yet to take a dominant role (or even a significant role) in ANYTHING HE HAS DONE ON RAW. His match and contract signing was in the middle of the show - between the "big event" of Heyman and RAW, Vince on RAW, Goldberg spearing Heyman and Austin. His promo was placed right after a 10+ minute match where he - as opposed to HHH and HBK - could be seen as vunerable. This makes Benoit look bad. 7) You could say that making Benoit look weak makes his win even more sweet, but as he continues to look like a 3rd party, as he continues to play outsider in HHH/HBK, it does nothing but plant in our minds that Benoit is second-string. All it does is enforce what HHH is saying and that won't come clean at Mania - especially now that HBK had to get involved. Infact, it will only make it worse. THIS MAKES BENOIT LOOK BAD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Why not just have Benoit say "I don't care who I face. You want HHH? Do it on your own time. But Wrestlemania is mine." What the fuck was all this, 10 Years in the Making, Super Kick, HBK IS GOD!? And did the crowd start booing when HBK started talking about the title shot at WM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Benoit, supposedly, wants to face the best (despite having unresolved issues with Guerrero, Angle, and Lesnar on Smackdown), so he SHOULD care about who he faces. Of course, next week, he will fail to beat HBK and then will accept that he must beat HBK as well at Mania. And another thing 8) Paul Heyman. On RAW. And not a single segment with him and Benoit together. I guess Goldberg is more important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Here's the thing like someone said HBK does deserve another title shot cause he never lost the last two matches cause they ended in a draw. But, to downplay Benoit and then superkick him and take the contract just made Benoit look like a 3rd man in the match. What I would have done is the RAW after NWO have a special RAW with the main even being the final HHH/HBK match. There must be a winner. Make a 2 out of 3 falls match, falls count anywhere match, whatever. And have Benoit calling the match with King and Jr. After whoever wins the match Benoit runs to the ring, slaps on the crossface and after the refs get Benoit off he grabs the mike and says that title is coming with him at WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 10, 2004 For Shawn to truly have a succesful change over to heel status he must go and turn on his beloved Jesus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 ...so what if he didn't lose? He didn't WIN, either. How is that supposed to be realistic? HBK can fuck up his title shots as much as he wants and continue to get them? With that logic, Kane should have a title shot coming up, since, technically, he didn't lose his World Title match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I'm happy in a sad way. I never expected them to respect Benoit or give him any clean shot at the belt. And now I feel vindicated that my fears are becoming reality. Though it leaves a hollow feeling in my stomach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I'd like to know how HBK was #1 contender for the title anyways... Foley just said "Hey Shawn, you and HHH 2 weeks from tonight" and there it was. Realistically, HBK hasn't done anything to warrant his #1 title position outside fighting HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I'd like to know how HBK was #1 contender for the title anyways... Foley just said "Hey Shawn, you and HHH 2 weeks from tonight" and there it was. Realistically, HBK hasn't done anything to warrant his #1 title position outside fighting HHH. Again, technically Kane is the number one contender. Never lost his match at Armageddon, never got a rematch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Did Goldberg face HHH after Armageddon? I would say Goldberg, as former World Champion, automatically gets a rematch vs. HHH since he would be #1 contender. Kane, in that match, wasn't so much #1 contender as he was a shit disturber. I would say that Kane is in the top 5 on RAW given his win/loss record over 'names' and performance in Armageddon, but I don't know about #1 contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 10, 2004 If you really want to be technical the IC Champ is suppose to be the #1 contender. At least I think they would be since back in WCW the US Champ was the #1 contender most of the time before Hogan came in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I don't recall the IC champ (status) ever being #1 contender in the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites