bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 For the three of you who care what O'Reilly has to say Conservative U.S. anchor now skeptical about Bush WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Conservative television news anchor Bill O'Reilly said on Tuesday he was now skeptical about the Bush administration and apologized to viewers for supporting prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The anchor of his own show on Fox News said he was sorry he gave the U.S. government the benefit of the doubt that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's weapons program poised an imminent threat, the main reason cited for going to war. "I was wrong. I am not pleased about it at all and I think all Americans should be concerned about this," O'Reilly said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America." "What do you want me to do, go over and kiss the camera?" asked O'Reilly, who had promised rival ABC last year he would publicly apologize if weapons were not found. O'Reilly said he was "much more skeptical about the Bush administration now" since former weapons inspector David Kay said he did not think Saddam had any weapons of mass destruction. While critical of President George W. Bush, O'Reilly said he did not think the president intentionally lied. Rather, O'Reilly blamed CIA Director George Tenet, who was appointed by former President Bill Clinton. "I don't know why Tenet still has his job." He added: "I think every American should be very concerned for themselves that our intelligence is not as good as it should be." O'Reilly anticipated the presidential election would be a close race, adding he thought Democratic front-runner Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts would be a formidable opponent against Bush. "It will be a very close race. The nation is divided," he said. http://www.reuters.com/locales/newsArticle...storyID=4325302 btw, I agree that Bush should get rid of Tenet. Thankfully, Iraq was a situation where most people didnt mind the end result (Saddam kicked to the curb)... but imagine if such a COLOSSAL intelligence failure happened in a different situation in which the ends weren't so rosy? Who exactly are we relying on to try and find Osama? Oh yeah our intelligence. Who are we relying on to find out if <insert nation> is secretly developing nuclear programs or if this country is selling secrets to that country? Oh yeah our intelligence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 O'Reilly admitted he was...wrong? ::dies:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I hereby present O'Reilly with the prestigious Weasel Award. The statuette is made of high-grade tin so it's easy to bend in whichever direction the wind happens to be blowing, and represents a weasel crouched in an attitude of cringing surrender, but with fangs bared in order to bite the hand that feeds it. It is set on a flimsy base of utterly transparent plastic. Previous proud recipients include Gerhard Schroder and Jacques Chirac. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 10, 2004 O'Reilly admitted he was...wrong? ::dies:: Hmm, does this mean he's NOT an egotistical windbag now? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 O'Reilly admitted he was...wrong? ::dies:: Hmm, does this mean he's NOT an egotistical windbag now? -=Mike Only when he's against the conservatives... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 O'Reilly admitted he was...wrong? ::dies:: Hmm, does this mean he's NOT an egotistical windbag now? -=Mike Nope. He's still a populist whore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 OMG FAU... Uh, wait a minute here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I'm surprised he acknowledged saying that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Wow. To do a face turn like that, he must have watched the Emperor shooting lighting bolts at his son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 ^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 So O'Reilly stopped shilling his book for 2 minutes and did an interviw. Also the notion that O'Reilly's a conservative is wrong. He's a registered independent who on numerous occasions has spoken out against Republicans and the Bush administration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 So O'Reilly stopped shilling his book for 2 minutes and did an interviw. Also the notion that O'Reilly's a conservative is wrong. He's a registered independent who on numerous occasions has spoken out against Republicans and the Bush administration. Independent is not the same as moderate. You can be a conservative (or liberal for that matter) and still be an Independent. It should also be noted that the guy was a registered Republican for most of his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Bill O' Reily the first nominee for the Annual Dennis Miller award. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 No Independent and Moderate aren't the same. Moderate is another name for liberal. So what if he was registered has a Republican. There's a difference between Republican and Conservative. O'Reilly does lean toward the right on many issues, doesn't mean he's a conservative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 No, he's just insane. The man is gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 No Independent and Moderate aren't the same. Moderate is another name for liberal. So what if he was registered has a Republican. There's a difference between Republican and Conservative. O'Reilly does lean toward the right on many issues, doesn't mean he's a conservative. So, a moderate is a liberal and someone who leans to the right isn't a conservative? And it matters that he's registered as an independent now, but it doesn't matter that he was registered as a republican? I agree that independent and moderate aren't the same, but it's ludicras to say that moderate is another term for liberal. There can be moderate conservatives & moderate liberals. And, I respect O'Reilly for once standing by his word. He said he'd appollogize if no weapons were found, and he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Bill O'Reilly is not a conservative. Reguardless of being a registered Republican. He's not a conservative. I don't like the article labeling him something he's not. Look at the so called moderates in the Republican party. John McCain, Olympia Snowe, Lincoln Chaffee. IMO..I consider all of those people to basically be liberal or left-leaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 No Independent and Moderate aren't the same. Moderate is another name for liberal. Careful, your bias is showing. I really hope you aren't serious. So what if he was registered has a Republican. There's a difference between Republican and Conservative. O'Reilly does lean toward the right on many issues, doesn't mean he's a conservative. Well, duh. I'm well aware conservative and Republican aren't always the same. Hell, I'm one of the most vocal people here about that. He's a conservative because he leans right on most issues and prefers them to liberals. I think it's pretty obvious by the things he says that he's right-wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Bill O'Reilly is not a conservative. Reguardless of being a registered Republican. He's not a conservative. I don't like the article labeling him something he's not. Endlessly repeating it won't make it go away. He's a conservative. He's proven it countless times by what he's said and wrote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 Look at the so called moderates in the Republican party. John McCain, Olympia Snowe, Lincoln Chaffee. IMO..I consider all of those people to basically be liberal or left-leaning. So all left-leaning people are liberals, then? Then why, using your logic, are right-leaning people not always conservatives? I await your response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 His show tonight should be interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 My bias is showing? When have I ever denied having a bias? For the most part. Yes. I won't hesitate to call John McCain or someone like him liberal or left leaning. Feel free to disagree, but what's the big idea if I do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 My bias is showing? When have I ever denied having a bias? I'm not aware of you ever denying you have a bias. I was just pointing it out. For the most part. Yes. I won't hesitate to call John McCain or someone like him liberal or left leaning. Feel free to disagree, but what's the big idea if I do? The problem is you seem to consider everyone who leans left to be a liberal. But you don't think all right-leaning people are conservatives. See the problem with that logic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I can understand your point. Put it this way. I prefer the term left-leaning, or right-leaning over moderate. Also, I think liberal and left-leaning are different. Sorry, if I didn't make that more clear in my previous posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I can understand your point. Put it this way. I prefer the term left-leaning, or right-leaning over moderate. Also, I think liberal and left-leaning are different. Sorry, if I didn't make that more clear in my previous posts. No problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted February 10, 2004 These labels are garbage. The only ones that matter are party affiliation, everything else is pure bullshit. I have my beliefs it doesn't matter if you call me a moderate, right leaning moderate, left leaning moderate, a facist, a socialist, or a fucking bannana. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 So, like, now that everyone but the most delusional is getting it into their heads that there's no WMD, O'Reilly thinks so too? I can see the front page now: MEDIA WHORE TAKES POPULIST POSITION BLAMES CLINTON APPOINTEE FOR GLOBAL FIASCO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Wow...O Reilly held to his word about apologizing if we found out Bush was wrong. Honestly, though I disagree with about 75% of Bill's opinions, Ive always found him to be a man of integrity so Im not shocked that hes doing this. Im sure the right will lambaste him for not defending Bush even in light of the obvious, but I doubt that will bother him. He might be a stubborn, antagonizing, and (imo) wrong man but Ive always seen him as someone capable of realizing the faults even in the people he supports. I really wish all partisan people could do that, Dem, Rep, or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 So, a moderate is a liberal and someone who leans to the right isn't a conservative? And it matters that he's registered as an independent now, but it doesn't matter that he was registered as a republican? O'Reilly's innumerable lies and distortions all feed a Big Lie: that he is a no-nonsense, bare-knuckles, working-class straight-shooter who sticks it to the phonies and sticks up for the little guy. I ain't buyin' it. In reality, O'Reilly is as phony as his Peabodys. Under the guise of his angry everyman persona, he uses a shopworn inventory of boorish tactics - bluster, bullying, and belittling - in order to advance a thinly disguised conservative agenda. It's not that O'Reilly is a Republican hack like Sean Hannity [...]. His position on issues is not dontrinaire movement conservative, and every once in a while I find myself in agreement with him, like when he says government should stay out of the bedroom or when I'm drunk. But his constant protest that he is an impartial observer and not an ideological conservative is just another lie. And it's another lie that he's had to lie about. From the 1996 launch of The O'Reilly Factor, part of Bill's credentials as a non-ideologue was that he was a registered independent. Lie! NPR's Mike Pesca refuted this in his January 2001 profile of O'Reilly for On The Media, reporting that O'Reilly had been a registered Republican since 1994. Calling the story "a hatchet job," O'Reilly claimed, "I've never heard of NPR's Mike Pesca." In fact, Pesca talked to O'Reilly for an hour and used portions of the taped conversation in the profile. What about the party registration? "Their accusation on my voting record is simply a lie," O'Reilly lied. "And I'm not suprised, since we've done a number of stories on NPR's left-leaning ways." Yes, O'Reilly admitted, he had been registered a Republican since 1994, but he had not been aware of it. It seems there had been an innocent mistake. "When I registered in Nassau to vote in 1994, there was no box for an independent. I left all the boes empty. Somehow, I was assigned Republican status." Take a look. Reproduced below is his 1994 voter registration form from Nassau County. I have blocked out his home address and signature so that no one can steal his manufactured identity: [picture - you'll just have to look at the actual book for this, but Republican is marked with the same kind of mark that questions like "Citizen by birth?" is marked with] One thing we do know for sure. Bill O'Reilly is a registered Lie-o-crat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 These labels are garbage. The only ones that matter are party affiliation, everything else is pure bullshit. I have my beliefs it doesn't matter if you call me a moderate, right leaning moderate, left leaning moderate, a facist, a socialist, or a fucking bannana. I've been trying to think of term for someone who is "issue-by-issue". "Intelligent" keeps springing to mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
