BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Any feuds with him would be awesome pretty much. AJ vs Kanyon, Raven vs Kanyon, Jarrett vs Kanyon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Go, WWE Cast-Off's, Go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Go, WWE Cast-Off's, Go! At least the guys being cast off are decent wrestlers who many people, except for the bookers, writers and management liked. D-Lo, Raven, Kanyon and others I would take any day over guys who are being kept, like Bob Holly, A-Train, and Mark Henry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 AJ vs Kanyon THAT i like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Yep. When WWE releases a good wrestler TNA should pick them up. It is stupid to say otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted February 11, 2004 AJ vs Kanyon THAT i like. pardon the language but HELL MOTHERFUCKIN YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 When was Kanyon released? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Monday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Yep. When WWE releases a good wrestler TNA should pick them up. It is stupid to say otherwise. Sorry for not wanting TNA to become WCW, like it's starting to look like already. Raven worked because he was never recognized as a "WWF/WWE worker." He was mainly known for his ECW ties, as well as his usually-good WCW run (only some minor lowpoints in his WCW tenure, IMO). D'Lo was a good acquisition because he was just starting to get used on WWE before his contract ended. Kanyon? Kanyon, albeit a very good worker, has never been much more than "that guy that used to play second-fiddle to Raven and DDP in WCW." Prove me wrong, kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermortal 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Yeah, make him a main eventer. Despite the fact that he's been losing to Funaki and Orlando Jordan for the past few months. Keep him out for a few months so the Velocity aura can be washed away, then bring him in and slowly build him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 11, 2004 TNA has more worries then bringing in another castoff... Like...creating their own stars and shit. Whoops, they can't do that can they...at least WCW stole the GOOD ones from Vince in 1995. They are just stealing the bottomfeeders here...it's like instead of Bischoff raiding for Hogan, Nash, Hall, Waltman and Henning, he stole Jean Pierre Lafeite, Duke Drose, Doink and Freddie Joe Floyd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 You know...as long as WWE is going to be casting off talented people like Kanyon, Spanky, Raven and Dustin...it's absolutely ridiculous to go down the "WWE castoff" road here. OF COURSE THEY SHOULD BRING IN A TALENTED CHARISMATIC HEAVYWEIGHT. You know...Austin and Foley were WCW cast-offs...I'm sure Vince really regrets bringing them in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted February 11, 2004 This whole castoff argument is pathetic. Why should they pass up talented workers who have the ability to get over and put on good matches? Name one bad thing about having Raven and D'Lo Brown on the roster........... oh wait Raven is megaover and had a huge run during the summer/fall and main evented the show with the highest buyrate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Exactly, pulling in those guys is a good idea. NWA needs another top of the card heel anyway to go with Jarrett and, I guess, Abyss. Sign him up, keep him away from the Jarrett faction and away you go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 And you can't compare TNA to WCW. WCW had Ted Turner's wallet to steal whatever talent he wanted. TNA has Panda Energy and are basically I high end indy fed. As long as they only pick up those that have some use, such as a Kanyon, Raven and a Spanky, they will build properly. As long as they don't pick up garbage, they'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 I agree with the not wanting too many cast-offs point you made Laz, but if Raven's 'not considered a WWE worker', then why should Kanyon be? How many appearances has he made on SD in the past year? It's not like he was ever a regular on T.V even as U.S and Tag Champion. Second fiddle guy or not. There's more WWE castoffs that'd be more damaging for TNA's 'WWE rejects' image than Kanyon. He'd be a better signing than most 'cast-offs'...for one, he's an all rounder. That match he had with Awesome at Slamboree 00 stands out as proof he could be a main eventer in a place like TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 The pimping of Kanyon is silly, all he did was watch Indies, put the moves on TV, and allow the announcers to fawn over how "innovative" they were. He's basically a taller version of Nova. While I wouldn't mind him in TNA, it's not as if he's some world class talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 The pimping of Kanyon is silly, all he did was watch Indies, put the moves on TV, and allow the announcers to fawn over how "innovative" they were. He's basically a taller version of Nova. While I wouldn't mind him in TNA, it's not as if he's some world class talent. Allowed the announcers? What was he supposed to do. "Please Tony, Mark...next time I hit this move, instead of putting me over, please put over a guy from another, smaller company because I took it from him first." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Allowed was the wrong word, but still, the idea that he was some amazing innovator was ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Allowed was the wrong word, but still, the idea that he was some amazing innovator was ridiculous. EVERYBODY steals moves, so it's stupid to say that. Hell, Austin stole the stunner from Mikey Whipwreak so what does that tell you. Moves are moves, and after they are created, they are stolen. Kanyon may be good for TNA for several reasons. First off, he is somebody with fairly decent experience. That is always a plus for a company like TNA. Also, Kanyon has a pretty good reputation for helping out younger wrestlers. This can be great for guys like Abyss and especially Northcutt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Kanyon is far from being a great worker, but TNA still could do worse than to bring him in. He's a legit heavyweight (which is always a plus), has a certain charisma, and is a *decent* worker. Sometimes he gets a little too silly with his inovation, but he is decent enough and has the ability to put on the ocassional fun match. The WWE cast off argument is right and wrong. If TNA were actual competition for the WWE to the point where most WWE fans are familiar with TNA to some degree, then it wouldn't be wise to push a jobber on Velocity as a main eventer. Simply because the WWE fans would see that and make the connection that a guy "who sucks" (simply because he is on Velocity) is in the main events in TNA. However, the reality is that TNA's audience and potential audience is made up mainly of people who don't like WWE and/or see a wrestler for his talent rather than how a company pushes him. There won't be many people who watch TNA (or may watch TNA given their current marketing strategy) who would be turned off by "Main Eventer Kanyon" because he was just on Velocity doing tons of jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 When you are fired from WWE because you suck or for disciplinary reasons (Ekmo, Viscera whoever else) that is a WWE cast-off. When you are fired from WWE becasue they don't have anything for you to do (Raven, Kanyon, Dustin) that's WWE's stupidity. Like any of us couldn't have found something for Goldust to do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 When you are fired from WWE because you suck or for disciplinary reasons (Ekmo, Viscera whoever else) that is a WWE cast-off. When you are fired from WWE becasue they don't have anything for you to do (Raven, Kanyon, Dustin) that's WWE's stupidity. Like any of us couldn't have found something for Goldust to do! Exaaaaaaaaaactly. The creative department always seems to come up blank when it comes to guys like Raven, Dustin, D'Lo, Kanyon, Jerry Lynn...Christ, is it _that_ hard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 I can understand not coming up with anything for Kanyon...I really can. But they seemed to have a storyline for Dustin coming up with Booker T and the "I still remember" stuff. Jerry Lynn was axed because at the time they didn't feel the need to have more than 3 cruisers on the roster. D-Lo was making a TON of money. SO I understood that move too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Whatever happend to Ekmo? One week I see him teaming with Siaki, and the poof, he's gone. Did TNA learn he was that bad to not ask him back (Cough New Jack). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 He went to Japan for a while. I actually liked them as a tag team (with Siaki) but now they have Siaki doing his own thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Forget Kanyon, TNA is going to pick up Ernest Miller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2004 I can understand not coming up with anything for Kanyon...I really can. Tag team. That wasn't too hard. Team him w/ O'Haire. Kanyon does all the work, and O'Haire is the power guy. Y'know, if Kanyon gets picked up full time by TNA, then maybe, just maybe, I'll order some shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dvkorn Report post Posted February 12, 2004 Kanyon in TNA is a good thing... He can work and he is entertaining... Not bringing him in because he is a cast off is a stupid arguement like many above have said... if he is talented then give him the opportunity to get over and become a player... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 12, 2004 Kanyon in TNA is a good thing... He can work and he is entertaining... Not bringing him in because he is a cast off is a stupid arguement like many above have said... if he is talented then give him the opportunity to get over and become a player... But if he's brought in as a ME immediately, they have a problem. It would look bad. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
