San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couples

[NoCalMike 0]

Well as far as the judge in Alabama goes, I never called for his head. I just simply disagreed with him, yet at the same time stated numerous times that personally I didn't really give a shit if the the commandments were there and that it didn't offend me regardless of my religious beliefs. However, the court rulings went through and ended up ruling against him, just like they may very well rule agains the Mayor in San Francisco. And in that case, the law will ultimately win out.

[Vern Gagne 0]

This story is not  an article, like the one's you'll see on front page of the New York Times, and Washington Post. This is a column where the Kurtz is giving his viewpoint on the subject.

Then all the more reasons to consider the source.

 

Forget that he's agaisnt gay marriage, he does give numbers that show traditional marriage has been on the decline since gay marriage was allowed.

 

Why should I forget he's against gay marriage? Why should I not at least be suspicious that his position may paint a picture that's spun or not enitrely accurate?

 

You're the people who run around talking about this huge slant in the media and the need to look for bias in the pages of large, respected journalistic organizations. You should know how this works.

Go ahead and consider the source. That doesn't mean it's not an interesting article. Which by the way goes beyond gay marriage is bad.

 

 

His opinion goes beyond gay marriage is bad. He's showing with numbers mind you, what's happened to the traditional marriage in those countries. If any thing he tends to be more critical of single women having babies, than gay marriage itself. Go ahead and wonder if Kurtz isn't telling the whole story. I doubt a majority in these countries would have any problem or care, the traditional family is on the decline.

 

 

 

 

We talk about the slant in the so called unbiased network news, some cable news networks, and major newspapers. A columnist writing his or her opinion on something is fine. Don't always agree with what people write, in fact I might be doing the same thing you're doing if you posted something from Molly Ivins.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

You missed what I was saying.

 

My point is that it's stupid that you insisted I not pay attention to the influence of any bias in an opinion article, while I know I've talked with you before about the claims of bias in hard news. Hard news is inherantly more trustworthy than opinion.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Is it Jobber..is it ?

 

*gives serious look*

[Spicy McHaggis 0]

None of this middle of the road, "don't want to upset either side" civil union compromise crap.

There IS a difference between a marriage and a civil union. Marriage, defined by the Catholic Church as an indissoluble union between a man and a woman, was not recognized by the gov't until the Church made it a Sacrament. That is why it doesn't belong in gov't AT ALL. A civil union, obviously, is a state-recognized union of two people.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

A good journalist in this case would present evidence and draw a conclusion.

Journalism class teaches you the opposite (establish your position at the start, then defend it).

When you write a thesis, you gather evidence than you create it. It makes your research unbiased. I thought that was common knowledge?

[Sass 0]

off topic, Brian could you possibly reduce the size of that pic in your sig? It's a mite too big.

I concur.

 

I'm not sure if you got my PM asking you to re-size your sig Brian, but I'm telling you here that it stretches the page out and needs to be re-sized.

 

Thanks.

[Guest SP-1]

A good journalist in this case would present evidence and draw a conclusion.

Journalism class teaches you the opposite (establish your position at the start, then defend it).

When you write a thesis, you gather evidence than you create it. It makes your research unbiased. I thought that was common knowledge?

That's academic writing. Journalism isn't necessarily always academic writing.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

A good journalist in this case would present evidence and draw a conclusion.

Journalism class teaches you the opposite (establish your position at the start, then defend it).

When you write a thesis, you gather evidence than you create it. It makes your research unbiased. I thought that was common knowledge?

That's academic writing. Journalism isn't necessarily always academic writing.

With the way everyone on the board complains about "biased sources", you'd think that we'd be better off if journalists decided to look at the whole story before making an opinion. I find the two similar anyways.

[Styles 0]

Maybe you all misunderstood me. Of course you thouroughly research a topic first before deciding your thesis. I'm saying when you write your paper/article, you are supposed to start off with your thesis, so off the bat the reader knows where you stand, and then use the rest of the paper to defend that position. So in that sense, the article is fine...

[bobobrazil1984 0]

I have a question...

 

Why is Arnold doing nothing about a mayor OPENLY DEFYING state law?

 

Mind you, I'm actually in support of gay marriage, but looking at the letter of existing law... at this point, the burden to Stop this should fall on the Governer, correct?

 

If the mayor continues to opely defy this, your job is to stop him, no? Shouldn't the Governer even use lawful means to make him stop or have the man arrested, or something??? All I heard was a statement that said: "i encourage them to follow the law" or something to that effect.

 

Either Schwarzenegger supports what's happening or he doesn't... and if he DOESN'T, he would use his rightful means as Governer to stop it, because it's a clear violation of the law...

 

So what gives?

 

What do Republicans think of Arnold shirking his duties and allowing this?

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Why is Arnold doing nothing about a mayor OPENLY DEFYING state law?

There's not a hell of a lot he can do except take them to court. The judicial process is already in session.

 

What do Republicans think of Arnold shirking his duties and allowing this?

 

He isn't shirking his duties. In his statement, he encouraged the court to enforce the law. That's all he can do at this point.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Maybe you all misunderstood me. Of course you thouroughly research a topic first before deciding your thesis. I'm saying when you write your paper/article, you are supposed to start off with your thesis, so off the bat the reader knows where you stand, and then use the rest of the paper to defend that position. So in that sense, the article is fine...

Yeah see that's what I thought. Yeah, you have the thesis near the beginning, but like you thought, I misunderstood you and thought you were talking about writing the paper, not the actual final paper.

 

It's true; where's Arnold?

[Guest MikeSC]

Why is Arnold doing nothing about a mayor OPENLY DEFYING state law?

There's not a hell of a lot he can do except take them to court. The judicial process is already in session.

 

What do Republicans think of Arnold shirking his duties and allowing this?

 

He isn't shirking his duties. In his statement, he encouraged the court to enforce the law. That's all he can do at this point.

He can, I think, push the A.G to arrest him for violating state law.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

He can, I think, push the A.G to arrest him for violating state law.

-=Mike

That would probably be the guy you would want to blame for shirking duties.

 

From the state constitution:

It shall be the duty of the Attorney General to see that the laws of the State are uniformly and adequately enforced.

[Styles 0]

Arnold doesn't want to face the public backlash on this issue. He is obviously very protected in his appearences, and he would have to take a controversial stand on this issue and face the national media. He wants to keep a low profile...

[Guest Cerebus]

Not surprisingly, California will reject altered marriage forms since just about everybody crossed "Bride" and "Groom" with something else.