Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Yeah, those all sucked...except they didn't. All were solid ***-***1/2 matches. Just because I hate him doesn't mean he hasn't had good matches. Are you shitting me? Taker-HHH was *** +? God that match was a pile of shite. Totally mediocre brawling, the worst ref bump ever (the ref was down for like 10 minutes) and then the worst "big bumps" in history. "OMG...WHAT A CHOKESLAM...ON A HUGE FUCKING MAT!" Ugh...the crowd heat and the fact that HHH jobs are the only things good about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 I defy ANYONE to watch that Taker/HHH match and not fast forward. That match has been overrated since the moment it ended. For some reason everyone decided it was ***1/2 that night...and never bothered to watch it again. Well...I tried too. *Fast Forwards* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Yeah, I think everyone just went: "HHH JOBS CLEAN~!!!!! HOLY SHIT! ***1/2!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 That part with HHH smacking the sledgehammer when he was about to get the Last Ride was pretty neat. Was anyone else rooting for HHH in that match? Or am I just a jackass? ****smacking the sledgehammer against UT's forehead, when he was about to get the Last Ride Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 That part with HHH smacking the sledgehammer when he was about to get the Last Ride was pretty neat. Was anyone else rooting for HHH in that match? Or am I just a jackass? Little of column A, a little of column B... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Yeah, I think everyone just went: "HHH JOBS CLEAN~!!!!! HOLY SHIT! ***1/2!" It wasn't that big of a deal back then. Almost everybody liked HHH until he came back in 2002. And I watched it again later and still liked it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Yeah, I think everyone just went: "HHH JOBS CLEAN~!!!!! HOLY SHIT! ***1/2!" Key word there: think, cause you're wrong. I felt it was an entertaining brawl, the crowd reaction really helped, and I liked the ending, especially with the sledgehammer false finish. I'd go ***, maybe ***1/4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Are you shitting me? Taker-HHH was *** +? God that match was a pile of shite. Totally mediocre brawling, the worst ref bump ever (the ref was down for like 10 minutes) and then the worst "big bumps" in history. "OMG...WHAT A CHOKESLAM...ON A HUGE FUCKING MAT!" Ugh...the crowd heat and the fact that HHH jobs are the only things good about it. The proper review for KOTR 2002. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJMc 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 I made a custom tape for the Top 10 WRESTLEMANIA Matches to put on my tape trading site before Wrestlemania last year. Here it is: Top Ten Wrestlemania Matches (6hrs) (VG) * 10) HARDY BOYS vs DUDLEY BOYZ vs EDGE & CHRISTIAN (WMX7) (15:41) * 09) BRET "HITMAN" HART vs ROWDY RODDY PIPER (WMVIII) (13:50) * 08) HULK HOGAN vs ANDRE THE GIANT (WMIII) (12:01) * 07) STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN vs THE ROCK (WMX7) (28:06) * 06) BRET "HITMAN" HART vs OWEN HART (WMX) (20:21) * 05) THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR vs HULK HOGAN (WMVI) (22:51) * 04) BRET "HITMAN" HART vs STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN (WM13) (22:05) * 03) BRET "HITMAN" HART vs SHAWN MICHAELS (WMXII) (62:07) * 02) RICKY STEAMBOAT vs RANDY SAVAGE (WMIII) (14:35) * 01) RAZOR RAMON vs SHAWN MICHAELS (WMX) (18:47) I'm likin' that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Shouldn't it be, you know, 20 matches? As for me, chronological ordered: Angle/Lesnar WM 19 Austin/Rock WM X-7 Hardys/Dudleys/E&C WM X-7 Austin/HBK WM 14 Austin/Bret Hart WM 13 Bret Hart/HBK WM 12 Razor Ramon/HBK WM X Hogan/Warrior WM 6 Steamboat/Savage WM 3 Hogan/Andre WM 3 Eh, thats just about what everyone else has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 I think a "Top 10 Second Best Wrestlemania matches" comp should be created. They weren't the best matches on the card, but dammit, they're still good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 I'm hoping since Flair is the host either Flair / Undertaker or Flair / Savage!!! (*crossing fingers here) will be one of the picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted February 27, 2004 Cena's Writer, I knew that someone had to capitalise on your "jackass" comment. Everyone is talking about how, being that this year's WrestleMania is WrestleMania XX, it will be going for five hours. Indeed, I believe that it will, but I also believe, and have heard, that this pre-show, if you will, is being put into this timeframe also. You guys have hit pretty much all of the good/great WrestleMania matches, and flamed some of the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2004 Rock/Hogan... Flair/Savage... Austin/Hart Steamboat/Savage TLC 2 hOGAN/Andre Rock/Austin x7 Owen/Bret are the automatics...The other two will be wild card matches... They'll probably be political choices, so I bet half of those won't even be MENTIONED on the show. Has Triple H had any good WM matches? vs Owen Hart, 4 way 2000, vs Undertaker, and vs Jericho. The 4 way sucked, in my opinion. The problem with the Jericho match was Stephanie's interference took too much away from it. The one against the Undertaker was good...I'll give you that one. I can't remember the one with Owen...but, hey, it was Owen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2004 In the new Raw magazine with Foley on the cover, they have an article on the Top 10 WM matches. I just looked at it in the store, and I don't believe they were actually ranked with numbers. Here's what I remember... Bret Hart vs. Austin (WM 13) Austin vs. Michaels (WM XIV) Hogan vs. The Rock (WM X8) Austin vs. The Rock (WM X7) HHH vs. Undertaker (WM X7) Benoit vs. Angle (WM X7) Steamboat vs. Savage (WM III) HBK vs. Razor Ramon (WM X) And I think the remaining two were along the lines of Hogan vs. Andre (WM III), TLC 2 (WM X7) and Bret vs. Owen (WM X) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 28, 2004 that sounds about right with a blend of good matches and HISTORIC matches...of course HHH slips into it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2004 Bret Hart vs. Austin (WM 13) Austin vs. Michaels (WM XIV) Hogan vs. The Rock (WM X8) Austin vs. The Rock (WM X7) HHH vs. Undertaker (WM X7) Benoit vs. Angle (WM X7) Steamboat vs. Savage (WM III) HBK vs. Razor Ramon (WM X) I just remember I still had my March 2003 issue of RAW Magazine so I looked it up and here is the list they had for the top 10 WM matches as well as honorable mentions: Hart / Piper, Hart / Hart, Undertaker / Kane (WTF?), TLC II, and Angle / Benoit. And now the Top 10 according to RAW mag last year: 10.) Hogan / Warrior 9.) Austin / Michaels 8.) Rock / Hogan 7.) Hart / Michaels 6.) Savage / Flair (WOO!) 5.) Hogan / Andre 4.) Austin / Rock (WM 17) 3.) Savage / Steamboat 2.) Michaels / Ramon 1.) Austin / Hart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted February 28, 2004 I don't think they will show any past matches where a main attraction for Wrestlemania XX jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2004 Just so you know... according to my Tivo's description it will be the top 10 matches from Wrestlemania hosted by SCSA... set to today's greatest music hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2004 Just so you know... according to my Tivo's description it will be the top 10 matches from Wrestlemania hosted by SCSA... set to today's greatest music hits. Unless they changed the host since Wednesday, that's wrong...since the commercial for it said Flair was the host. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2004 from the observer site: --It's interesting, as I expected it would be, that the WWE's poll of its wrestlers on the greatest match at Wrestlemania, counting down from ten to one, in the Spike TV press release only lists two matches, Hogan vs. Andre and Vince vs. Shane. It is also interesting that in our own poll of wrestlers and officials that neither of those two matches even received one vote (Hogan vs. Andre did get one vote among those not in the business for best match in Mania history ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2004 from the observer site: --It's interesting, as I expected it would be, that the WWE's poll of its wrestlers on the greatest match at Wrestlemania, counting down from ten to one, in the Spike TV press release only lists two matches, Hogan vs. Andre and Vince vs. Shane. It is also interesting that in our own poll of wrestlers and officials that neither of those two matches even received one vote (Hogan vs. Andre did get one vote among those not in the business for best match in Mania history ) Of course they're all going to tell Vince that Vince vs. Shane was the best match ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2004 Just saw a commercial for the show...Hogan/Rock and Austin/HBK were pretty much confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2004 --It's interesting, as I expected it would be, that the WWE's poll of its wrestlers on the greatest match at Wrestlemania, counting down from ten to one, in the Spike TV press release only lists two matches, Hogan vs. Andre and Vince vs. Shane Those weren't even in WWE's own magazine list last year. Who books this crap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2004 My opinion: These are the best matches in terms of workrate, NOT crowd response/money match(So now Hogan/Andre or Hogan/Rock). 1: Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat, WM 3: Greatest WWF match ever, number 3 on greatest match I ever seen(2: Misawa vs Kaweda from 94 and 1 being Steamboat vs Flair from Clash 6) 2: Steve Austin vs Bret Hart, WM 13: This match help save this card from sucking and inadverting helped save the comp. 3: Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon, WM10: Great match 4: Bret Hart vs Owen Hart, WM10: The intro for Owen alone makes it cool. This match almost stole the show and it was the opener. 5: Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior, WM7: The only reason to watch that PPV. Great match, great post storyline. 6: Steve Austin vs The Rock, WM17: Overbooking in the ending that killed this match from being one of the greatest. Alothough 17 chairshots is an easy way to kill a person long enough for a three count. 7: Randy Savage vs Ric Flair, WM8: Savage wins but still gets out booked by Hogan....AGAIN. Such is life, but this match ruled. 8: Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage, WM5: Megapowers explodes and Savage carries Hogan to a good match. Savage was a god back in the late 80s to early 90s. 9: TLC2, WM17: Gimmick spot fest that worked. Plus enough overbooking to make it different and still good. 10: Benoit vs Angle, WM17(see I like this event?): Weird ending aside, the second best match these two ever had(Rumble03 being number 1). Knowing the WWE, if half these matches make it I will be suprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2004 "I felt it was an entertaining brawl, the crowd reaction really helped, and I liked the ending, especially with the sledgehammer false finish. I'd go ***, maybe ***1/4. " Wow, almost as good as Lyger/Ohtani. (rolls eyes). "Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat, WM 3: Greatest WWF match ever, number 3 on greatest match I ever seen(2: Misawa vs Kaweda from 94 and 1 being Steamboat vs Flair from Clash 6)" Riiiiiiiight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 7, 2004 You are fucking harsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2004 "I felt it was an entertaining brawl, the crowd reaction really helped, and I liked the ending, especially with the sledgehammer false finish. I'd go ***, maybe ***1/4. " Wow, almost as good as Lyger/Ohtani. (rolls eyes). Yes, I felt Liger/Ohtani was ***3/4. OMG I'm an idiot, right? Grow the fuck up, so I didn't LOVE LOVE LOVE a match you felt was one of the best ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 7, 2004 This guy Coffin Surfer would never give any US match *****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2004 "Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage, WM5: Megapowers explodes and Savage carries Hogan to a good match. Savage was a god back in the late 80s to early 90s." This actually wasn't a true carry job. Savage was the better worker, and it shows, but Hogan as always had a great sense of timing, and he actually feeds Savage a couple of good transitions here(the early Backdrop Suplex, when he dips his head for Savage's kick, the missed elbowdrop that sets up the Flying Knee). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites