Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 here's the place to drop off your examples. Let's face it, the media is slanted. (And probably controlled by aliens with wristwatches) Actually, I wouldn't claim the slant goes one way, it goes with what is sensationalist. Example A: Headline on Yahoo.com: "GOP senator blames Clinton for 9/11 failure" Headline for the story: "Plenty to Blame for Terror - Republican Lawmaker" I'd say that the headline on Yahoo was a bit simplified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Actually, I wouldn't claim the slant goes one way, it goes with what is sensationalist. NO, you must not say that! The media is 100 percent liberals who hate America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Actually, I wouldn't claim the slant goes one way, it goes with what is sensationalist. NO, you must not say that! The media is 100 percent liberals who hate America. not only HATE, but want to destroy from the inside, out!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Why do liberals hate America anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Why do liberals hate America anyway? Envy. Or at least outside the US. I'm not sure what American liberals think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 I only hate America on weekends, dammit...people, get it right! Nah, it's just an idiotic stereotype. I love living in America, and wouldn't want to live anywhere else, save for maybe Ireland, and that's only because of family reasons. Do I agree with who's in office? Not particularly, although I agreed with him for roughly a year and a half, up until the Iraqi Conflict. I wanted Gore in 2000, and either Dean or Kerry this year. The whole "Dean goes nuts at rally" was a horrid misrepresentation of a guy trying to rally his base. It was blown out of proportion. And turned into a rather gratifying joke. Nah, true liberals hate their country because they served in Vietnam and came back to petition the war...oh wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 The whole "Dean goes nuts at rally" was a horrid misrepresentation of a guy trying to rally his base. It was blown out of proportion. It's only a bad misrepresentation of Dean if you conveniently ignore the other 393 things he'd said or done during the course of his campaign that made one question his mental stability. Nah, true liberals hate their country because they served in Vietnam and came back to petition the war...oh wait... Silly boy, don't you know John Kerry won Vietnam - SINGLE-HANDEDLY??? Visual proof! Full credit to kkk for the pic. It's the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 22, 2004 The whole "Dean goes nuts at rally" was a horrid misrepresentation of a guy trying to rally his base. It was blown out of proportion. It's only a bad misrepresentation of Dean if you conveniently ignore the other 393 things he'd said or done during the course of his campaign that made one question his mental stability. Nah, true liberals hate their country because they served in Vietnam and came back to petition the war...oh wait... Silly boy, don't you know John Kerry won Vietnam - SINGLE-HANDEDLY??? Visual proof! Full credit to kkk for the pic. It's the funniest thing I've seen in a while. People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): Being the candidate for guys who fly the Confederate flag. Bush knew about 9/11 in advance Bush's policy on Iraq caused the Spanish bombings Believe me, his speech didn't do him in. Honestly, be glad he flamed out. He'd have lost REAL badly. BTW, vyce, I can give you the site with several more campaign posters for Kerry, if you'd like. I'd post them myself, but I'm too lazy to figure out the boards fully here. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): Being the candidate for guys who fly the Confederate flag. Bush knew about 9/11 in advance Bush's policy on Iraq caused the Spanish bombings Believe me, his speech didn't do him in. Honestly, be glad he flamed out. He'd have lost REAL badly. BTW, vyce, I can give you the site with several more campaign posters for Kerry, if you'd like. I'd post them myself, but I'm too lazy to figure out the boards fully here. -=Mike Osama Bin Laden deserves a fair trial before we convict him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Bush knew about 9/11 in advance Hey, now, let's be fair - it wasn't HIM saying that, he just HEARD that others were. Big distinction, of course. ] Oh, and feel free to PM me that link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Full credit to kkk for the pic. It's the funniest thing I've seen in a while. And I pass the credit on to MikeSC, who directed me to the Web site that had this pic. Oh, yeah. Fuck Big Media... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 (edited) Speaking of slanted news, I read an article (I'll have to find the link) that Fox News is illegal here. On the one hand, I despise censorship and my government dictating what I can and cannot watch, but on the other hand I'm spared having to put up with O'Reilly. Edited March 22, 2004 by Naibus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 You live in Canada?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Did Kerry serve in Vietnam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2004 So you lived in Canada for five months and then threw your buddy's proof of residency onto the prime minister's lawn? O'Reilly's bitched about this issue on his show before. You guys up there can't own satellite dishes or something and receive signals to cable news stations that some people in America laugh out loud at in 2004, right?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted March 23, 2004 On the one hand, I despise censorship and my government dictating what I can and cannot watch, but on the other hand I'm spared having to put up with O'Reilly. I get FAUX NEWS but I never turn it on. It's really that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2004 Pretty much. From what I've heard of FAUX, I probably wouldn't be watching it even if I did get it, but the ruling is nonsensical, since I do get CNN which I only watch for Crossfire and Lou Dobbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted March 23, 2004 Pretty much. From what I've heard of FAUX, I probably wouldn't be watching it even if I did get it, but the ruling is nonsensical, since I do get CNN which I only watch for Crossfire and Lou Dobbs. Crossfire? That show lost what little dignity when it went into "town meeting" mode. When its Carville v Carlson it can get funny to watch since they're both great debaters but I can barely watch 5 minutes of Begala v Novak. If you want REAL good news programming wake your ass up on Sunday morning and watch Face the Nation, Meet the Press, and the Washington Roundtable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted March 23, 2004 Actually, I wouldn't claim the slant goes one way, it goes with what is sensationalist. NO, you must not say that! The media is 100 percent liberals who hate America. reminds me of the chapter in Frankens latest about Liberal hating america... where he interviews american hero John Glenn about why he hates America so much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2004 Pretty much. From what I've heard of FAUX, I probably wouldn't be watching it even if I did get it, but the ruling is nonsensical, since I do get CNN which I only watch for Crossfire and Lou Dobbs. Crossfire? That show lost what little dignity when it went into "town meeting" mode. When its Carville v Carlson it can get funny to watch since they're both great debaters but I can barely watch 5 minutes of Begala v Novak. If you want REAL good news programming wake your ass up on Sunday morning and watch Face the Nation, Meet the Press, and the Washington Roundtable. You're right about Carville and Carlson, and about the degraded quality of the show; I liked it much better when they were in that darkened studio. I keep meaning to watch Meet the Press, but never seem to catch it. I do watch the McLaughlin Group, McLaughlin's style sometimes annoys me, but he does have a diverse panel. Oh yeah, I do watch the Capital Gang on the weekends which I think anyway is much better than Crossfire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted March 23, 2004 I believe they replay Meet the Press on MSNBC in the evening (you get that up in Canada I assume). You can always go to ]their website and read the tanscripts or see clips. For anyone interested in current events and politics this show is really a must see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 24, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Brutal truth: THERE ARE LIMITS TO FREEDOM. That whole "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" thing. DAMN BUSH FOR USING COMMON SENSE! DAMN HIM TO HELL --- which, since most living people don't see it probably isn't that bad a place. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Brutal truth: THERE ARE LIMITS TO FREEDOM. That whole "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" thing. DAMN BUSH FOR USING COMMON SENSE! DAMN HIM TO HELL --- which, since most living people don't see it probably isn't that bad a place. -=Mike The Patriot Act is common sense... Thomas Paine is spinning in his grave... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 24, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Brutal truth: THERE ARE LIMITS TO FREEDOM. That whole "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" thing. DAMN BUSH FOR USING COMMON SENSE! DAMN HIM TO HELL --- which, since most living people don't see it probably isn't that bad a place. -=Mike The Patriot Act is common sense... Thomas Paine is spinning in his grave... I still have yet to hear of these outright assaults on everyday liberties. It takes a little more than demagoging to get me upset about something. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Brutal truth: THERE ARE LIMITS TO FREEDOM. That whole "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" thing. DAMN BUSH FOR USING COMMON SENSE! DAMN HIM TO HELL --- which, since most living people don't see it probably isn't that bad a place. -=Mike When Bush said that he was talking about people making negative comments about him on the internet. If there were "limits to freedom" as Bush wanted, this folder wouldn't exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 24, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Brutal truth: THERE ARE LIMITS TO FREEDOM. That whole "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" thing. DAMN BUSH FOR USING COMMON SENSE! DAMN HIM TO HELL --- which, since most living people don't see it probably isn't that bad a place. -=Mike When Bush said that he was talking about people making negative comments about him on the internet. If there were "limits to freedom" as Bush wanted, this folder wouldn't exist. Bush has ALSO said (when asked about his views on the people protesting him in Britain) "I'm glad that they live in a place where you can do that." DAMN THAT NAZI FOR WANTING TO STEAL OUR RIGHTS! -=Mike ..Ah, what the heck --- CITE where he said that about internet criticisms. It sounds like, well, a lie. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2004 Well, of course, I'm a Democrat so I must be lying. AUSTIN - Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons his White House bid. The designer of the unofficial Bush site described it on Friday as a parody and said the governor is trying to limit what is written about him on the Internet. But Mr. Bush, a front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, had harsh words Friday for the site (www.gwbush.com), which offers mock interviews and policy initiatives on drugs and crime. "There's a lot of garbage in politics, and, obviously, this is a garbage man," said Mr. Bush. Attorneys for the Bush presidential exploratory committee have filed complaints with the Federal Election Commission seeking to have the owners post a disclaimer identifying who built the site and who is paying for it. "It [the site] is filled with libelous and untrue statements whose aim is to damage Governor Bush," the campaign said in its letter to the FEC. "The headline of the site is, 'Just Say No to Former Cocaine User for President.' This site's innuendoes and false statements attack the governor's positions on tough standards for convicted drug dealers." Karen Hughes, a Bush campaign spokeswoman, said the site so closely resembles the official Bush campaign site (www.georgewbush.com) that people could be confused. Ms. Hughes said the unofficial site urges people to vote against Mr. Bush, making it subject to federal disclosure requirements. Sites that are strongly critical of candidates but do not urge voters to take action are exempt from federal rules. Frank Guerrero, a spokesman for the designer, said the site is meant to poke fun at Mr. Bush by comparing what he calls his "youthful indiscretions" with his tough-on-crime policies as an adult. He said the site does not advocate the defeat of any candidate and is such a clear parody that no one would confuse it for the real Bush campaign Web page. "We're not affiliated with any other campaign," said Mr. Guerrero of the site's designer, Rtmark, a loose-knit group of corporate critics. "In fact, we see ourselves as completely nonpartisan." The FEC confirmed Friday that it had received a complaint but declined to discuss the case, citing agency rules. Ron Harris, an FEC spokesman, said the commission has not dealt with many Internet-related complaints and the current case could break new legal ground on how the Web is governed under campaign laws. The unofficial Bush site has a photo of Mr. Bush and a banner that reads, "Presidential Exploratory Committee." It includes a mock initiative dubbed "Amnesty 2000," which suggests Mr. Bush would pardon prisoners convicted of drug crimes if they have "grown up." As a potential presidential candidate, Mr. Bush has declined "to catalogue my youthful indiscretions," saying that he has learned from his mistakes. The site also pokes fun at Mr. Bush's characterization of himself as a "compassionate conservative." "G.W. Bush has indeed been forgiven again and again by others. First there was his rambunctious youth," the site says. "Then, as an unsuccessful Texas businessman, he was bailed out with millions of dollars from friends of his vice president father. As president, G.W. Bush wants to create an America in which everyone gets as much forgiveness and as many chances to grow up as he had." The Bush campaign filed an initial complaint about the look-alike Bush site in April. Mr. Guerrero said changes were made so it would look less like the official site, but Bush campaign lawyers filed a second complaint with the FEC this month demanding a disclaimer and disclosure of funding sources. "We appreciate humor. We appreciate parody. George Bush is known for his sense of humor," said Ms. Hughes. "But there's a difference between expressing opinion, poking fun and breaking the law." Mr. Guerrero estimated about $70 had been spent to construct the site. He said the money came from Zack Exley, a Massachusetts computer consultant who initially registered and maintains the gwbush.com site. Bush campaign political consultant Karl Rove has purchased at least 60 domain names that include the Bush name in an apparent attempt to curtail other anti-Bush site-makers. "We've put out a request for domain names for [Vice President Al] Gore as well," said Mr. Guerrero. "We're trying to be bipartisan." http://orgs.bloomu.edu/policom/bushlite.ne...net/limits.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 24, 2004 I highlighted some passages you seem to have overlooked. AUSTIN - Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons his White House bid. The designer of the unofficial Bush site described it on Friday as a parody and said the governor is trying to limit what is written about him on the Internet. But Mr. Bush, a front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, had harsh words Friday for the site (www.gwbush.com), which offers mock interviews and policy initiatives on drugs and crime. "There's a lot of garbage in politics, and, obviously, this is a garbage man," said Mr. Bush. Attorneys for the Bush presidential exploratory committee have filed complaints with the Federal Election Commission seeking to have the owners post a disclaimer identifying who built the site and who is paying for it. "It [the site] is filled with libelous and untrue statements whose aim is to damage Governor Bush," the campaign said in its letter to the FEC. "The headline of the site is, 'Just Say No to Former Cocaine User for President.' This site's innuendoes and false statements attack the governor's positions on tough standards for convicted drug dealers." Karen Hughes, a Bush campaign spokeswoman, said the site so closely resembles the official Bush campaign site (www.georgewbush.com) that people could be confused. Ms. Hughes said the unofficial site urges people to vote against Mr. Bush, making it subject to federal disclosure requirements. Sites that are strongly critical of candidates but do not urge voters to take action are exempt from federal rules. Frank Guerrero, a spokesman for the designer, said the site is meant to poke fun at Mr. Bush by comparing what he calls his "youthful indiscretions" with his tough-on-crime policies as an adult. He said the site does not advocate the defeat of any candidate and is such a clear parody that no one would confuse it for the real Bush campaign Web page. "We're not affiliated with any other campaign," said Mr. Guerrero of the site's designer, Rtmark, a loose-knit group of corporate critics. "In fact, we see ourselves as completely nonpartisan." The FEC confirmed Friday that it had received a complaint but declined to discuss the case, citing agency rules. Ron Harris, an FEC spokesman, said the commission has not dealt with many Internet-related complaints and the current case could break new legal ground on how the Web is governed under campaign laws. The unofficial Bush site has a photo of Mr. Bush and a banner that reads, "Presidential Exploratory Committee." It includes a mock initiative dubbed "Amnesty 2000," which suggests Mr. Bush would pardon prisoners convicted of drug crimes if they have "grown up." As a potential presidential candidate, Mr. Bush has declined "to catalogue my youthful indiscretions," saying that he has learned from his mistakes. The site also pokes fun at Mr. Bush's characterization of himself as a "compassionate conservative." "G.W. Bush has indeed been forgiven again and again by others. First there was his rambunctious youth," the site says. "Then, as an unsuccessful Texas businessman, he was bailed out with millions of dollars from friends of his vice president father. As president, G.W. Bush wants to create an America in which everyone gets as much forgiveness and as many chances to grow up as he had." The Bush campaign filed an initial complaint about the look-alike Bush site in April. Mr. Guerrero said changes were made so it would look less like the official site, but Bush campaign lawyers filed a second complaint with the FEC this month demanding a disclaimer and disclosure of funding sources. "We appreciate humor. We appreciate parody. George Bush is known for his sense of humor," said Ms. Hughes. "But there's a difference between expressing opinion, poking fun and breaking the law." Mr. Guerrero estimated about $70 had been spent to construct the site. He said the money came from Zack Exley, a Massachusetts computer consultant who initially registered and maintains the gwbush.com site. Bush campaign political consultant Karl Rove has purchased at least 60 domain names that include the Bush name in an apparent attempt to curtail other anti-Bush site-makers. "We've put out a request for domain names for [Vice President Al] Gore as well," said Mr. Guerrero. "We're trying to be bipartisan." http://orgs.bloomu.edu/policom/bushlite.ne...net/limits.html Nothing about shutting the site down or stifling dissent. A demand that the people behind the site identify themselves. DAMN HIM FOR INSISTING THAT PEOPLE WHO POST THINGS ON THE INTERNET ADMIT WHO THEY ARE! -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2004 People seem to forget ALL of the gaffes Dean had (and still commits): I still don't think any of that is as bad as "There ought to be limits to freedom." Brutal truth: THERE ARE LIMITS TO FREEDOM. That whole "You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" thing. DAMN BUSH FOR USING COMMON SENSE! DAMN HIM TO HELL --- which, since most living people don't see it probably isn't that bad a place. -=Mike The Patriot Act is common sense... Thomas Paine is spinning in his grave... I still have yet to hear of these outright assaults on everyday liberties. It takes a little more than demagoging to get me upset about something. -=Mike Are we allowed to know whom is arrested or investigated?.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites