Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 Now you may want to know WHY it is called RPG Baddies Nominations, and not, RPG Villians Nominations. Because Baddies also include those who were enemies. Regardless if they join up with you in a couple hours of game play or were a Hero then turned Baddie (Delita of FFT or Jowy of Suikoden 2 anyone?) or just switched sides constantly (Kain of FF4 is probably the best of that). If they are Baddies, they qualify for this Tourney. Now then, since I didn't do as great of job with the Heroes as I probably should've, I'm letting YOU, the TSM Gamers, decide who from the RPGs Baddies, you think deserves to be here. 128 Baddies must be Chosen. You have the power to decide who is in this tourney. ...ok, it is simply because I can't think of more than 32 Baddies off the top of my head, and will probably miss some of the more "Cultish" Baddies (I missed Ashley of Vagrant Story, so I probably would've missed Sydney). Note: I accept all forms of Baddies, but they must have important significance to the RPG. Hence, you can't just toss out say a Cockatrice from any old game. It must be a boss/NPC or a very well established symbol of Baddiness. Since I want nominations, I'll start off with the first 8: 1) Slime - Dragon Warrior Series 2) Loki - Valkyrie Profile 3) Sydney - Vagrant Story 4) Sephiroth - Final Fantasy 7 5) Kefka - Final Fantasy 6 6) Daos - Lufia 2: The Rise of The Sinistrals 7) Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy 5 8) Lavos - Chrono Trigger There are your first 8 nominations. Please add more as you see fit. Nomination period will end at 5:00pm MST (8pm EST) on March 31st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 25, 2004 Magus from Chrono Trigger...he was heel even if he turned later on. He wasn't in the babyface tourney, so he has to be in this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 FFIV: Golbez FFI: Chaos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jer 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 Barbarosa - Suikoden Wendy - Suikoden Luca Blight - Suikoden 2 Jowy Blight - Suikoden 2 Luc - Suikoden 3 Yuber - Suikoden 1/2/3 Neclord - Suikoden 1/2 Kuja - FF9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 Delita: Final Fantasy Tactics He betrays you and everything he once held dear, using you and everyone else as a means to gain power and casts aside those he no longer has any use for, as is made shockingly clear at the end when he kills his newlywed wife to cement is rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 To undermine the entire process... 1. Biggs (FFVIII) 2. Wedge (FFVIII) 3. Bowyer (Mario RPG) 4. Guard Scorpion (FFVII) 5. Tonberry (The FF Series) 6. Vicks (FFVI) 7. Other Wedge (FFVI) 8. Don Corneo (FFVII) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 I guess I'll try to name ones not already mentioned. Apollo, Final Fantasy Legends 2 (GB) Ultros(!) FF6 The Emporer Secret of Mana Julius Final Fantasy Adventure (GB) Warmech FF1, FFL2, etc. Dracula: Castlevania Behemoth: FF series Rabite: Secret of Mana Ad Avis: Quest for Glory 2, 4 Baba Yaga: Quest for Glory 1, 4 Sydney: Vagrant Story Romeo Gildensturn: Vagrant Story I'm sure no one else knows nor cares who half these people are... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 Diablo: Diablo. It big, red, it has horns, and it can crush you. And it's Satan. If he doesn't win, then it ought to be Kefka. And if neither win, then it's a crying shame and I demand a recount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2004 Kain -- FFIV Golbez -- FFIV Ghaleon -- Lunar Leo -- Lunar 2 (since the boss dude in Lunar 2 kinda sucks) Zio -- Phantasy Star IV Ganondorf -- Legend of Zelda (series) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 RPG, so no Zelda and Castlevania. Id (Xenogears) Krelian (Xenogears) Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) Master Belch (Earthbound) Scalding Coffee Cup (Earthbound) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Kain -- FFIV Golbez -- FFIV Ganondorf -- Legend of Zelda (series) All have already received nominations. RPG, so no Zelda and Castlevania. Id (Xenogears) Krelian (Xenogears) Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) Master Belch (Earthbound) Scalding Coffee Cup (Earthbound) Yes, Zelda and Castlevania DO count. Just because both cause enough complaints about the whole thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Kahran Ramsus (Xenogears) Grahf (Xenogears) Miang (Xenogears) Albedo (Xenosaga) Harle (Crono Cross) Leon (Final Fantasy II) Marquis Elmdor (Final Fantasy Tactics) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 (edited) Current Baddie Count: 56/128 so far. If you can actually get me baddies from different Square games, I'll give you ... well, nothing. Just would like some others than Square. Since I see a ton of them. Edited March 26, 2004 by Lightning Flik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jer 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Dragonlord (Dragon Warrior) Hargon (Dragon Warrior 2) Baramos (Dragon Warrior 3) Zoma (Dragon Warrior 3) Lich (Final Fantasy 1) Kary (Final Fantasy 1) Kraken (Final Fantasy 1) Tiamat (Final Fantasy 1) Emporer Gestahl (Final Fantasy 6) Emerald (Final Fantasy 7) Ruby (Final Fantasy 7) Azala (Chrono Trigger) Ozzie (Chrono Trigger) Lynx (Chrono Cross) Garland (Final Fantasy 9) Boomerang (Wild Arms) Zeikfried (Wild Arms) Harken (Wild Arms) Alhazad (Wild Arms) Mother (Wild Arms) Hehe I like my quad-villian groups. Yeah, don't feel like you need to use all of these, just felt like throwing some out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Id: Xenogears Krellian: Xenogears Kahran Ramsus: Xenogears Miang: Xenogears Grahf: Xenogears Sephiroth: FF VII Indalecio: Star Ocean Second Story Irenicus: Baldur's Gate 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Seifer Almasy(FFVIII). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 Zoda (Startropics) Balzack (Dragon Warrior 4) Necrosaro (Dragon Warrior 4) New Age Retro Hippie (Earthbound) Cranky Lady (Earthbound) Pokey (Earthbound) Deathtoll(Soulblazer) Kane Spites (Vandal Hearts) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2004 I will never ever ever understand the Earthbound love. The game sucks, and I am most definately an old school RPG fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I totally forgot two of the most ridiculously pathetic villains in Square history, so I, Gosunkugi, agent to the jobbers to the stars, also nominate these two... Solt (Chrono Cross) Peppor (Chrono Cross) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2004 I totally forgot two of the most ridiculously pathetic villains in Square history, so I, Gosunkugi, agent to the jobbers to the stars, also nominate these two... Solt (Chrono Cross) Peppor (Chrono Cross) AH! I had finally blocked out this game. And these characters in particular. Bad memories returning. *cries* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2004 Only 33 baddie spots left people. Come on. We need more baddies. They should be easy to list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2004 Dark Force (PSI-IV) Even though it says nothing, it is still awesome, especially in PS4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2004 Here's a few more: Lassic/Lashiec (PSI/PSIV) Mother Brain (PSII) Neifirst (PSII) Profound Darkness (PSIV) The Turks (FFVII) Edea (FFVIII) Seymour (FFX) Llednar Twem (FFTA) Queen Remedi (FFTA) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2004 Death (castlevania) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2004 Zeromus (FFIV) Wiegraf (Final Fantasy Tactics) Mid-Boss (Disgaea) Guido Sardenia (Persona) Fleamen (Castlevania series) Calbrena (FFIV) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2004 17 Baddie Spots Available to be filled till 8pm EST tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2004 Okay, I'll throw some more in... The Axem Rangers (Mario RPG) The Prism Rangers (Disgaea) Mack the Knife (Mario RPG) Fuujin and Raijin (FFVIII) Culex (Mario RPG) Johnny Jones (Mario RPG) And my final Mario RPG nomination, the WEDDING CAKE OF DEATH. Rufus Shinra (FFVII) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2004 8 Baddie Slots Left. 8pm EST deadline for choosing the final 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2004 I'll throw in a courtesy vote for Molbol (Final Fantasy series) and Behemoth (Final Fantasy series), since Square thought enough of them to include them in Final Fantasy Tactics. Also, though we're treading into dangerous ground by including Diablo 2 (there's a litany of Baldur's Gate baddies that are worthy of a nomination and I don't even want to fire up the System Shock/Deus Ex = RPG argument), I'm going to throw down a vote for the pygmy-esque Flayers (Diablo 2), just for being one of the single most annoying group of enemies I've ever seen in a video game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2004 JUST FIVE SPOTS REMAINING~! I REPEAT FIVE SPOTS REMAINING~! Brackets will be made up tonight, and the first Round will begin tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites