Lightning Flik Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 Now you may want to know WHY it is called RPG Baddies Nominations, and not, RPG Villians Nominations. Because Baddies also include those who were enemies. Regardless if they join up with you in a couple hours of game play or were a Hero then turned Baddie (Delita of FFT or Jowy of Suikoden 2 anyone?) or just switched sides constantly (Kain of FF4 is probably the best of that). If they are Baddies, they qualify for this Tourney. Now then, since I didn't do as great of job with the Heroes as I probably should've, I'm letting YOU, the TSM Gamers, decide who from the RPGs Baddies, you think deserves to be here. 128 Baddies must be Chosen. You have the power to decide who is in this tourney. ...ok, it is simply because I can't think of more than 32 Baddies off the top of my head, and will probably miss some of the more "Cultish" Baddies (I missed Ashley of Vagrant Story, so I probably would've missed Sydney). Note: I accept all forms of Baddies, but they must have important significance to the RPG. Hence, you can't just toss out say a Cockatrice from any old game. It must be a boss/NPC or a very well established symbol of Baddiness. Since I want nominations, I'll start off with the first 8: 1) Slime - Dragon Warrior Series 2) Loki - Valkyrie Profile 3) Sydney - Vagrant Story 4) Sephiroth - Final Fantasy 7 5) Kefka - Final Fantasy 6 6) Daos - Lufia 2: The Rise of The Sinistrals 7) Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy 5 8) Lavos - Chrono Trigger There are your first 8 nominations. Please add more as you see fit. Nomination period will end at 5:00pm MST (8pm EST) on March 31st.
Guest Coffey Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 Magus from Chrono Trigger...he was heel even if he turned later on. He wasn't in the babyface tourney, so he has to be in this one.
Jer Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 Barbarosa - Suikoden Wendy - Suikoden Luca Blight - Suikoden 2 Jowy Blight - Suikoden 2 Luc - Suikoden 3 Yuber - Suikoden 1/2/3 Neclord - Suikoden 1/2 Kuja - FF9
Highland Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 Delita: Final Fantasy Tactics He betrays you and everything he once held dear, using you and everyone else as a means to gain power and casts aside those he no longer has any use for, as is made shockingly clear at the end when he kills his newlywed wife to cement is rule.
Mecha Mummy Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 To undermine the entire process... 1. Biggs (FFVIII) 2. Wedge (FFVIII) 3. Bowyer (Mario RPG) 4. Guard Scorpion (FFVII) 5. Tonberry (The FF Series) 6. Vicks (FFVI) 7. Other Wedge (FFVI) 8. Don Corneo (FFVII)
EricMM Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 I guess I'll try to name ones not already mentioned. Apollo, Final Fantasy Legends 2 (GB) Ultros(!) FF6 The Emporer Secret of Mana Julius Final Fantasy Adventure (GB) Warmech FF1, FFL2, etc. Dracula: Castlevania Behemoth: FF series Rabite: Secret of Mana Ad Avis: Quest for Glory 2, 4 Baba Yaga: Quest for Glory 1, 4 Sydney: Vagrant Story Romeo Gildensturn: Vagrant Story I'm sure no one else knows nor cares who half these people are...
Jobber of the Week Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 Diablo: Diablo. It big, red, it has horns, and it can crush you. And it's Satan. If he doesn't win, then it ought to be Kefka. And if neither win, then it's a crying shame and I demand a recount.
AndrewTS Posted March 25, 2004 Report Posted March 25, 2004 Kain -- FFIV Golbez -- FFIV Ghaleon -- Lunar Leo -- Lunar 2 (since the boss dude in Lunar 2 kinda sucks) Zio -- Phantasy Star IV Ganondorf -- Legend of Zelda (series)
chaosrage Posted March 26, 2004 Report Posted March 26, 2004 RPG, so no Zelda and Castlevania. Id (Xenogears) Krelian (Xenogears) Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) Master Belch (Earthbound) Scalding Coffee Cup (Earthbound)
Lightning Flik Posted March 26, 2004 Author Report Posted March 26, 2004 Kain -- FFIV Golbez -- FFIV Ganondorf -- Legend of Zelda (series) All have already received nominations. RPG, so no Zelda and Castlevania. Id (Xenogears) Krelian (Xenogears) Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) Master Belch (Earthbound) Scalding Coffee Cup (Earthbound) Yes, Zelda and Castlevania DO count. Just because both cause enough complaints about the whole thing.
Kahran Ramsus Posted March 26, 2004 Report Posted March 26, 2004 Kahran Ramsus (Xenogears) Grahf (Xenogears) Miang (Xenogears) Albedo (Xenosaga) Harle (Crono Cross) Leon (Final Fantasy II) Marquis Elmdor (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Lightning Flik Posted March 26, 2004 Author Report Posted March 26, 2004 (edited) Current Baddie Count: 56/128 so far. If you can actually get me baddies from different Square games, I'll give you ... well, nothing. Just would like some others than Square. Since I see a ton of them. Edited March 26, 2004 by Lightning Flik
Jer Posted March 26, 2004 Report Posted March 26, 2004 Dragonlord (Dragon Warrior) Hargon (Dragon Warrior 2) Baramos (Dragon Warrior 3) Zoma (Dragon Warrior 3) Lich (Final Fantasy 1) Kary (Final Fantasy 1) Kraken (Final Fantasy 1) Tiamat (Final Fantasy 1) Emporer Gestahl (Final Fantasy 6) Emerald (Final Fantasy 7) Ruby (Final Fantasy 7) Azala (Chrono Trigger) Ozzie (Chrono Trigger) Lynx (Chrono Cross) Garland (Final Fantasy 9) Boomerang (Wild Arms) Zeikfried (Wild Arms) Harken (Wild Arms) Alhazad (Wild Arms) Mother (Wild Arms) Hehe I like my quad-villian groups. Yeah, don't feel like you need to use all of these, just felt like throwing some out.
Highland Posted March 26, 2004 Report Posted March 26, 2004 Id: Xenogears Krellian: Xenogears Kahran Ramsus: Xenogears Miang: Xenogears Grahf: Xenogears Sephiroth: FF VII Indalecio: Star Ocean Second Story Irenicus: Baldur's Gate 2
chaosrage Posted March 26, 2004 Report Posted March 26, 2004 Zoda (Startropics) Balzack (Dragon Warrior 4) Necrosaro (Dragon Warrior 4) New Age Retro Hippie (Earthbound) Cranky Lady (Earthbound) Pokey (Earthbound) Deathtoll(Soulblazer) Kane Spites (Vandal Hearts)
Highland Posted March 26, 2004 Report Posted March 26, 2004 I will never ever ever understand the Earthbound love. The game sucks, and I am most definately an old school RPG fan.
Mecha Mummy Posted March 27, 2004 Report Posted March 27, 2004 I totally forgot two of the most ridiculously pathetic villains in Square history, so I, Gosunkugi, agent to the jobbers to the stars, also nominate these two... Solt (Chrono Cross) Peppor (Chrono Cross)
{''({o..o})''} Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 I totally forgot two of the most ridiculously pathetic villains in Square history, so I, Gosunkugi, agent to the jobbers to the stars, also nominate these two... Solt (Chrono Cross) Peppor (Chrono Cross) AH! I had finally blocked out this game. And these characters in particular. Bad memories returning. *cries*
Lightning Flik Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Posted March 30, 2004 Only 33 baddie spots left people. Come on. We need more baddies. They should be easy to list.
DerangedHermit Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 Dark Force (PSI-IV) Even though it says nothing, it is still awesome, especially in PS4.
DerangedHermit Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 Here's a few more: Lassic/Lashiec (PSI/PSIV) Mother Brain (PSII) Neifirst (PSII) Profound Darkness (PSIV) The Turks (FFVII) Edea (FFVIII) Seymour (FFX) Llednar Twem (FFTA) Queen Remedi (FFTA)
The Man in Blak Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 Zeromus (FFIV) Wiegraf (Final Fantasy Tactics) Mid-Boss (Disgaea) Guido Sardenia (Persona) Fleamen (Castlevania series) Calbrena (FFIV)
Lightning Flik Posted April 1, 2004 Author Report Posted April 1, 2004 17 Baddie Spots Available to be filled till 8pm EST tonight.
Mecha Mummy Posted April 1, 2004 Report Posted April 1, 2004 Okay, I'll throw some more in... The Axem Rangers (Mario RPG) The Prism Rangers (Disgaea) Mack the Knife (Mario RPG) Fuujin and Raijin (FFVIII) Culex (Mario RPG) Johnny Jones (Mario RPG) And my final Mario RPG nomination, the WEDDING CAKE OF DEATH. Rufus Shinra (FFVII)
Lightning Flik Posted April 1, 2004 Author Report Posted April 1, 2004 8 Baddie Slots Left. 8pm EST deadline for choosing the final 8.
The Man in Blak Posted April 1, 2004 Report Posted April 1, 2004 I'll throw in a courtesy vote for Molbol (Final Fantasy series) and Behemoth (Final Fantasy series), since Square thought enough of them to include them in Final Fantasy Tactics. Also, though we're treading into dangerous ground by including Diablo 2 (there's a litany of Baldur's Gate baddies that are worthy of a nomination and I don't even want to fire up the System Shock/Deus Ex = RPG argument), I'm going to throw down a vote for the pygmy-esque Flayers (Diablo 2), just for being one of the single most annoying group of enemies I've ever seen in a video game.
Lightning Flik Posted April 1, 2004 Author Report Posted April 1, 2004 JUST FIVE SPOTS REMAINING~! I REPEAT FIVE SPOTS REMAINING~! Brackets will be made up tonight, and the first Round will begin tomorrow.
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