The Official TSM Mock NFL Draft

[HarleyQuinn 0]

Yeah, I got my write up all set, just waiting for BX's pick

[Guest FrigidSoul]

I'm here too, and damnit I'm pretending I'm in Harley's war room

[the pinjockey 0]

Round 1

1. San Diego Chargers - Eli Manning, Quarterback, Ole Miss

2. Oakland Raiders - Ben Roethlisberger, Quarterback, Miami of Ohio

3. Arizona Cardinals - Larry Fitzgerald, Wide Receiver, Pittsburgh

4. New York Giants - Robert Gallery, Offensive Tacke, Iowa

5. Washington Redskins - Sean Taylor, Safety, Miami

6. Detroit Lions - Steven Jackson, Running Back, Oregon State

7. Cleveland Browns - Kellen Winslow Jr., Tight End, Miami

8. Atlanta Falcons - Mike Williams, Wide Receiver, Southern California

9. Jacksonville Jaguars - Kenechi Udeze, Defensive End, Southern California

10. Houston Texans - DeAngelo Hall, Defensive Back, Virginia Tech

11. Pittsburgh Steelers - Phillip Rivers, Quarterback, North Carolina State

12. New York Jets - Roy Williams, Wide Receiver, Texas

13. Buffalo Bills - Will Smith, Defensive End, Ohio State

14. Chicago Bears - Randy Starks, Defensive Tackle, Maryland

15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - D.J. Williams, Linebacker, Miami

16. San Francisco 49ers - Reggie Williams, Wide Receiver, Washington

17. Cincinnati Bengals - Chris Gamble, Cornerback, Ohio State

18. New Orleans Saints - Jonathan Vilma, Linebacker, Miami

19. Minnesota Vikings - Tommie Harris, Defensive Tackle, Oklahoma

20. Miami Dolphins - Shawn Andrews, Offensive Tackle, Arkansas

21. New England Patriots - Kevin Jones, Running Back, Virginia Tech

22. Dallas Cowboys - Dunta Robinson, Defensive Back, South Carolina

23. Seattle Seahawks - Maurice Tubbs, Defensive Tackle, Texas

24. Denver Broncos - Will Poole, Defensive Back, Southern California

25. Green Bay Packers - Darnell Dockett, Defensive Tackle, Florida State

26. St. Louis Rams - Antwan Odom, Defensive Tackle, Alabama

27. Tennessee Titans - Vincent Wilfork, Defensive Tackle, Miami

28. Philadelphia Eagles - Karlos Dansby, Linebacker, Auburn

29. Indianapolis Colts - Matt Ware, Defensive Back, UCLA

30. Kansas City Chiefs - Michael Clayton, Wide Receiver, LSU

31. Carolina Panthers - Stephen Peterman, Offensive Guard, LSU

32. New England Patriots - Jake Grove, Center, Virginia Tech

[the pinjockey 0]

Ok, I am hoping BX just went away to get his pick together. Otherwise not going to be thrilled considering I PMed him while he was here.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

A WR for KC? Guh?

[Vern Gagne 0]

A WR for KC? Guh?

I'm not drafting based on need. I draft based on best player available. Besides the Chiefs could use a top flight receiver.

[Guest Flyboy]

(BX PMed me his pick)

 

With the thirty-first pick in the 2004 TSM NFL Mock Draft, the Carolina Panthers select...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stephen Peterman -- Offensive Guard -- LSU

[HarleyQuinn 0]

With the 32nd Pick, the New England Patriots select Center Jake Grove from Virginia Tech.

 

He'll make up the void left by Damien Woody and gives the offensive line a much needed aggressive, physical presence.

 

OVERVIEW

Great leader who really set the pace for the rest of the offensive line … A relentless warrior on the field, Grove has everything you want a center to have … Tough, physical, aggressive and possesses the intangibles needed to play the game at the highest level … Versatile player who found a home at center in his final year after playing right guard as a junior and sophomore … One of three players in school history to earn unanimous All-America honors, joining center Jim Pyne (1993) and linebacker Corey Moore (1999).

 

ANALYSIS

Positives: Has thick muscle mass throughout with thick thighs and calves, and broad shoulders and chest … Tough, aggressive player who competes from snap to whistle … Has good initial quickness off the ball and into his blocks … Can reach the down blocks with very good effectiveness … Has the short-area quickness needed to chip and reach block on the linebackers … More stronger than explosive, latching on with his powerful hands to control the defender … Fires off the line with good quickness, showing proper body movement to lock on and drive the defenders off the line in running plays … Makes quick decisions when adjusting to make the reach blocks at the second level, keeping his leg base wide as he mirrors the linebacker's moves … Shows good field vision and fluid feet to adjust and recognize twists and stunts … Has adequate knee bend and body flexibility, with above-average hand placement as he works inside to control … Quick in his kick slide, getting in front to pick up the defensive end while maintaining balance and body control in his slide … Quarterback of the offensive line, rarely making bad blocking assignment calls … Has the tough leadership quality you look for in a center (will grab defenders by the throat if that's what it takes to get the job done) … Plays on his feet and will rarely overextend or get caught out of position.

 

Negatives: Has good functional strength, but his arms need more muscle development … Can get physical if he has to, but you'd like to see that nasty nature he sometimes displays more often (does not always finish blocks with the fire you'd like) … Does not pull much in Virginia Tech's scheme, but shows adequate agility and balance on the move.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

*kicks Harley in the nutz*

[HarleyQuinn 0]

Chill, I have a feeling he could be available in the 2nd round by my pick(#57) and if he isn't, there are other options. This way though our offensive line which IS a pressing need moreso then the position you wanted gets touched upon allowing us to focus on other aspects that may/may not be trouble.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

I think the Pats starting 5 are just fine and only need back-up depth. Matt Light carried Damien Woody's fat out of shape ass often.

[the pinjockey 0]

Round 2 Order

33. Houston Texans (f/OAK) – No pick (Tony Hollings in last year’s supp. draft)

34. Arizona Cardinals - Shawntae Spencer, Cornerback, Pittsburgh

35. New York Giants - Rashaun Woods, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State

36. San Diego Chargers - Lee Evans, Wide Receiver, Wisconsin

37. Detroit Lions

38. Atlanta Falcons

39. Cleveland Browns

40. Jacksonville Jaguars

41. Houston Texans

42. Denver Broncos

43. Tennessee Titans

44. Buffalo Bills

45. Pittsburgh Steelers

46. Oakland Raiders (f/TB)

47. San Francisco 49'ers

48. Chicago Bears

49. New Orleans Saints

50. Cincinnati Bengals

51. Minnesota Vikings

52. Baltimore Ravens

53. Dallas Cowboys

54. Seattle Seahawks

55. Denver Broncos

56. Green Bay Packers

57. New England Patriots (f/MIA)

58. Tennessee Titans

59. Philadelphia Eagles

60. Indianapolis Colts

61. New Orleans Saints

62. Kansas City Chiefs

63. Carolina Panthers

64. New England Patriots

 

Whoever had Zona is on the clock

[Vern Gagne 0]

Arizona wants CB-Shawntae Spencer from Pittsburgh

[Gert T 0]

With the 35th selection in the NFL Draft the NY Giants select:

 

 

 

 

Rashun Woods, WR Oklahoma State

 

 

The Giants "seem" to have good playmakers on offense, but they cannot get the ball in the end zone. Rashun Woods would have been a first-rounder most years. He is not the biggest, or fastest, but Woods has a good chance to become a big-time playmaker in the NFL.

[Guest Flyboy]

If my time is correct on the board, the Chargers (Gunslinger) has 4:30 PM CT to make his pick.

[the pinjockey 0]

Players taken by position

 

Quarterback

1. San Diego - Eli Manning, Ole Miss

2. Oakland - Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (OH)

11. Pittsburgh - Phillip Rivers, N.C. State

 

Running Back

6. Detroit - Stephen Jackson, Oregon State

21. New England - Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech

 

Wide Receiver

3. Arizona - Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh

8. Atlanta - Mike Williams, USC

12. New York Jets - Roy Williams, Texas

16. San Francisco - Reggie Williams, Washington

30. Kansas City - Michael Clayton, LSU

35. New York Giants - Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma State

 

Tight End

7. Cleveland - Kellen Winslow Jr.

 

Offensive Tackle

4. New York Giants - Robert Gallery, Iowa

20. Miami - Shaun Andrews, Arkansas

 

Offensive Guard

31. Carolina Panthers - Stephen Peterman, LSU

 

Center

32. New England - Jake Grove, Virginia Tech

 

Defensive End

9. Jacksonville - Kenichi Udeze, USC

13. Buffalo - Will Smith, Ohio State

 

Defensive Tackle

14. Chicago - Randy Starks

19. Minnesota - Tommie Harris, Oklahoma

23. Seattle - Maurice Tubbs, Texas

25. Green Bay - Darnell Dockett, Florida State

26. St. Louis - Antwan Odom, Alabama

27. Tennessee - Vince Wilfork, Miami

 

Linebacker

15. Tampa Bay - D.J. Williams, Miami

18. New Orleans - Jonathan Vilma, Miami

28. Philadelphia - Karlos Dansby, Auburn

 

Cornerback

10. Houston - D’Angelo Hall, Virginia Tech

17. Cincinnati - Chris Gamble, Ohio State

22. Dallas - Dunta Robinson, South Carolina

24. Denver - Will Poole, USC

29. Indianapolis - Matt Ware (CB/S), UCLA

34. Arizona - Shawntae Spencer, Pittsburgh

 

Safety

5. Washington - Sean Taylor, Miami

29. Indianapolis - Matt Ware (CB/S), UCLA

[Guest FrigidSoul]

The Broncos and Bengals made a trade which changes their positions in the first round and gives the Bengals the Broncos' 4th round pick. Time to start all over

[Guest Flyboy]

The Broncos and Bengals made a trade which changes their positions in the first round and gives the Bengals the Broncos' 4th round pick. Time to start all over

Ummmmmmm.... no.

[Gert T 0]

Remember too that the 42 pick now belongs to Denver, and the 43 goes to Tennessee for Justin McCareins.

[Guest Flyboy]

With the thirty-sixth pick in the 2004 TSM NFL Mock Draft, the San Diego Chargers select...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lee Evans -- Wide Receiver -- University of Wisconsin

[Vern Gagne 0]

I saw Mel Kiper saying Lee Evans was expected to be a mid-first round pick. Not a big deal, just something I thought I'd point out.

[Guest Flyboy]

I saw Mel Kiper saying Lee Evans was expected to be a mid-first round pick. Not a big deal, just something I thought I'd point out.

Yeah, I think Evans will go before Woods or Clayton so basically the Chargers got a steal.

[Fökai 0]

EDIT: Draft results updated.

[the pinjockey 0]

Time to get the Atlanta clock going.

 

With the 37th pick in the 2004 TSM NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select out of Western Michigan.......Jason Babin, DE

 

The leaders on the team in sacks last year each had only 4.5. Robert Porcher and James Hall are not exactly going to be the DEs to lead a team in the future. Throw in the fact Porcher will be gone soon and that leads this selection for an upgrade at DE.

[the pinjockey 0]

Next three

38. Atlanta Falcons - bravesfan

39. Cleveland Browns - me

40. Jacksonville Jaguars - APO

[Fökai 0]

With the 38th pick in the 2004 TSM NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Ahmad Carroll, cornerback out of the University of Arkansas.

 

The Falcons look to address the future of a secondary currently occupied by patchwork players, picking up the 5'10", 195 pound junior. With blazing speed (4.35), an unmatched intensity for making the tackle and potential that has yet to be tapped into, the Falcons should be happy with this selection.

[Fökai 0]

For the second round, I decided to leave the teams without owners - not too much of an explanation for this, other than the group of posters that failed to show up for the first round. Pinjockey seems to be keeping track of the owners that *DID* make selections in the first round, so we should be good to go for the weekend.

[the pinjockey 0]

With the 39th pick in the 2004 TSM NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select....Stuart Schweigert, safety, Purdue.

 

With both starting safeties over the age of 30 it is time to start looking forward. He has the size and speed to compete in the NFL. Throw in the fact that all he seemed to do in college was make big plays and you get a solid safety prospect..

[the pinjockey 0]

Next three

Jacksonville - APO

Houston - Conspiracy Victim

Denver - Canadian Chris

 

I don't know how you want to handle the teams that got picked for in the first round such as Jax. I figure just put CV on the clock and if APO is here first he can make the pick, if CV gets here first then someone can pick for Jax. Is that cool?

[Guest FrigidSoul]

With pinjockey's pick does that mean that the Stuart Schweigert of Purdue that plays safety is still available? hehe