the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 do you just want to PM me your top three choices? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 13, 2004 do you just want to PM me your top three choices? That's what I'm gonna do later on because I know when it's time for me to pick I'll be in school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Heh..it looks like I could finally pick on Tuesday.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted April 13, 2004 nah...I haven't even bothered to look around as I didn't know we were doing this past the first round...so hand my picks over to someone who's knowledgable about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 13, 2004 I can pick for the Bengals.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Three picks a comin- Chicago's time is up so they'll take - Jacob Rogers, OT, USC Flyboy PMed me the Saints and Bengals picks Saints select - Sean Jones, Safety, Georgia Bengals select - Bob Sanders, Safety, Iowa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Next three 51. Minnesota Vikings - laparkamarka 52. Baltimore Ravens - Marvinisalunatic 53. Dallas Cowboys - bx - late Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Round 1 1. San Diego Chargers - Eli Manning, Quarterback, Ole Miss 2. Oakland Raiders - Ben Roethlisberger, Quarterback, Miami of Ohio 3. Arizona Cardinals - Larry Fitzgerald, Wide Receiver, Pittsburgh 4. New York Giants - Robert Gallery, Offensive Tacke, Iowa 5. Washington Redskins - Sean Taylor, Safety, Miami 6. Detroit Lions - Steven Jackson, Running Back, Oregon State 7. Cleveland Browns - Kellen Winslow Jr., Tight End, Miami 8. Atlanta Falcons - Mike Williams, Wide Receiver, Southern California 9. Jacksonville Jaguars - Kenechi Udeze, Defensive End, Southern California 10. Houston Texans - DeAngelo Hall, Defensive Back, Virginia Tech 11. Pittsburgh Steelers - Phillip Rivers, Quarterback, North Carolina State 12. New York Jets - Roy Williams, Wide Receiver, Texas 13. Buffalo Bills - Will Smith, Defensive End, Ohio State 14. Chicago Bears - Randy Starks, Defensive Tackle, Maryland 15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - D.J. Williams, Linebacker, Miami 16. San Francisco 49ers - Reggie Williams, Wide Receiver, Washington 17. Cincinnati Bengals - Chris Gamble, Cornerback, Ohio State 18. New Orleans Saints - Jonathan Vilma, Linebacker, Miami 19. Minnesota Vikings - Tommie Harris, Defensive Tackle, Oklahoma 20. Miami Dolphins - Shawn Andrews, Offensive Tackle, Arkansas 21. New England Patriots - Kevin Jones, Running Back, Virginia Tech 22. Dallas Cowboys - Dunta Robinson, Defensive Back, South Carolina 23. Seattle Seahawks - Maurice Tubbs, Defensive Tackle, Texas 24. Denver Broncos - Will Poole, Defensive Back, Southern California 25. Green Bay Packers - Darnell Dockett, Defensive Tackle, Florida State 26. St. Louis Rams - Antwan Odom, Defensive Tackle, Alabama 27. Tennessee Titans - Vincent Wilfork, Defensive Tackle, Miami 28. Philadelphia Eagles - Karlos Dansby, Linebacker, Auburn 29. Indianapolis Colts - Matt Ware, Defensive Back, UCLA 30. Kansas City Chiefs - Michael Clayton, Wide Receiver, Louisiana State 31. Carolina Panthers - Stephen Peterman, Offensive Guard, Louisiana State 32. New England Patriots - Jake Grove, Center, Virginia Tech Round 2 34. Arizona Cardinals - Shawntae Spencer, Defensive Back, Pittsburgh 35. New York Giants - Rashaun Woods, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State 36. San Diego Chargers - Lee Evans, Wide Receiver, Wisconsin 37. Detroit Lions - Jason Babin, Defensive End, Western Michigan 38. Atlanta Falcons - Ahmad Carroll, Defensive Back, Arkansas 39. Cleveland Browns - Stuart Schweigert, Defensive Back, Purdue 40. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Jenkins, Wide Receiver, Ohio State 41. Houston Texans - Isaac Sopoaga, Defensive Tackle, Hawaii 42. Denver Broncos - Devery Henderson, Wide Receiver, Louisiana State 43. Tennessee Titans - Ben Troupe, Tight End, Florida 44. Buffalo Bills - Vernon Carey, Offensive Guard, Miami 45. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Smiley, Guard, Alabama 46. Oakland Raiders - Chris Perry, Running Back, Michigan 47. San Francisco 49ers - Igor Olshansky, Defensive Tackle, Oregon 48. Chicago Bears - Jacob Rogers, Offensive Tackle, USC 49. New Orleans Saints - Sean Jones, Safety, Georgia 50. Cincinnati Bengals - Bob Sanders, Safety, Iowa 51. Minnesota Vikings - Marquise Hill, Defensive End, Iowa 52. Baltimore Ravens - Derrick Hamilton, Wide Receiver, Clemson 53. Dallas Cowboys - Maurice Clarett, Running Back, Ohio State 54. Seattle Seahawks - Daryl Smith, Linebacker, Georgia Tech 55. Denver Broncos - Ben Watson, Tight End, Georgia 56. Green Bay Packers - JP Losman, Quarterback, Tulane 57. New England Patriots - Kendyll Pope, Linebacker, Florida State 58. Tennessee Titans 59. Philadelphia Eagles 60. Indianapolis Colts 61. New Orleans Saints 62. Kansas City Chiefs 63. Carolina Panthers 64. New England Patriots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaMarka 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 With the 51st pick in the 2004 NFL draft, the Minnesota Vikings select.... Marquise Hill, DE, Louisiana State One of the most imposing figures on the Louisiana State team, Hill is a player with all the tools necessary to be a dominating defensive lineman at the next level. He has tremendous size and strength and continues to sharpen fundamentals. Marquise is a powerful pass rusher who simply explodes off the ball...he has a tremendous wing span and frequently bats down passes at the line of scrimmage. Started 24 of 38 games at right defensive end, recording 117 tackles (67 solos) with 10 sacks for minus-75 yards, 19½ stops for losses of 106 yards, 36 quarterback pressures, a fumble recovery, two forced fumbles, an interception and nine pass deflections. DE is a need position for the Vikings. Last round I took the best player available because Tommie Harris is a damn good player and worthy of going much higher than 19. Had to take the DE this time, and I had Hill as a possible first round choice for the Vikes. It's a no-brainer to take him here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Next three 52. Baltimore Ravens - Marvinisalunatic 53. Dallas Cowboys - bx - late 54. Seattle - MrRant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 With the 52nd pick of the Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Derrick Hamilton, WR, Clemson The Ravens need a WR, and he's also a very accomplished Kick Returner so he could at least return kicks next year, although the Ravens need a WR so bad I doubt that he would get the chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Draft results updated. If BX doesn't show up, I'll make the selection for him (I already a player lined up for the Cowboys). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 This draft has been very heavy with defensive tackles, defensive backs, and wideouts. Should be some quality players at other positions in rounds 3 and 4. Players taken by position Quarterback 1. San Diego - Eli Manning, Ole Miss 2. Oakland - Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (OH) 11. Pittsburgh - Phillip Rivers, N.C. State 56. Green Bay - J.P. Losman, Tulane Running Back 6. Detroit - Stephen Jackson, Oregon State 21. New England - Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech 46. Oakland – Chris Perry, Michigan 53. Dallas - Maurice Clarett, Ohio State Wide Receiver 3. Arizona - Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh 8. Atlanta - Mike Williams, USC 12. New York Jets - Roy Williams, Texas 16. San Francisco - Reggie Williams, Washington 30. Kansas City - Michael Clayton, LSU 35. New York Giants - Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma State 36. San Diego – Lee Evans, Wisconsin 40. Jacksonville – Michael Jenkins, Ohio State 42. Denver – Devery Henderson, LSU 52. Baltimore – Derrick Henderson, Clemson Tight End 7. Cleveland - Kellen Winslow Jr., Miami 43. Tennessee – Ben Troupe, Florida 55. Denver - Ben Watson, Georgia Offensive Tackle 4. New York Giants - Robert Gallery, Iowa 20. Miami - Shaun Andrews, Arkansas 48. Chicago – Jacob Rogers, USC 58. Tennessee - Nat Dorsey, Georgia Tech Offensive Guard 31. Carolina Panthers - Stephen Peterman, LSU 44. Buffalo – Vernon Carey, Miami 45. Pittsburgh – Justin Smiley, Alabama Center 32. New England - Jake Grove, Virginia Tech Defensive End 9. Jacksonville - Kenichi Udeze, USC 13. Buffalo - Will Smith, Ohio State 37. Detroit - Jason Babin, Western Michigan 51. Minnesota – Marquise Hill, LSU 62. Kansas City - David Ball, UCLA Defensive Tackle 14. Chicago - Randy Starks, Maryland 19. Minnesota - Tommie Harris, Oklahoma 23. Seattle - Maurice Tubbs, Texas 25. Green Bay - Darnell Dockett, Florida State 26. St. Louis - Antwan Odom, Alabama 27. Tennessee - Vince Wilfork, Miami 41. Houston – Isaac Sopagoa, Hawaii 47. San Francisco - Igor Olshansky, Oregon Linebacker 15. Tampa Bay - D.J. Williams, Miami 18. New Orleans - Jonathan Vilma, Miami 28. Philadelphia - Karlos Dansby, Auburn 54. Seattle - Daryl Smith, Georgia Tech 57. New England - Kendyll Pope, Florida State 60. Indianapolis - Teddy Lehman, Oklahoma Cornerback 10. Houston - D’Angelo Hall, Virginia Tech 17. Cincinnati - Chris Gamble, Ohio State 22. Dallas - Dunta Robinson, South Carolina 24. Denver - Will Poole, USC 29. Indianapolis - Matt Ware (CB/S), UCLA 34. Arizona - Shawntae Spencer, Pittsburgh 38. Atlanta – Ahmad Carroll, Arkansas 59. Philadelphia - Derrick Strait, Oklahoma 61. New Orleans - Keith Smith, McNeese State Safety 5. Washington - Sean Taylor, Miami 29. Indianapolis - Matt Ware (CB/S), UCLA 39. Cleveland – Stuart Scheigert, Purdue 49. New Orleans – Sean Jones, Georgia 50. Cincinnati – Bob Sanders, Iowa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Choose Clarett for BX. He wanted him in the first round, and he's still up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 With the 53rd pick in the 2004 TSM Mock Draft, the Dallas Cowboys once again select... Maurice Clarett, running back from The Ohio State University. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Draft results updated. The Seattle Seahawks (Rant), with the 54th pick in the draft, are on the clock. 55. Denver Broncos - CanadianChris. 56. Green Bay Packers - Kahran Ramsus. 57. New England Patriots - HarleyQuinn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 Only 2 more. Hopefully I can pick tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 13, 2004 How long does CanadianChris have until? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaMarka 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2004 We're waiting on Rant, Flyboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted April 14, 2004 *repeatedly kicks Harley in the nuts as Sean Jones is off the board* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 *repeatedly kicks Harley in the nuts as Sean Jones is off the board* I would have liked to have him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 14, 2004 *repeatedly kicks Harley in the nuts as Sean Jones is off the board* I would have liked to have him. *points and laughs at both of you* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 With the 54th pick the Seattle Seahawks select - Daryl Smith - MLB, Georgia Tech OVERVIEW Team captain who led the Yellow Jackets in tackles twice in four seasons … Steady performer in the middle of the field who moved into the starting lineup early in his freshman campaign … Rated one of the top linebackers in the nation coming out of college … Known for his durability and toughness, playing most of the 2002 season with a dislocated elbow … Started 44 of 46 games for Tech, recording 383 tackles (207 solos) with 15 sacks for minus-72 yards, 48 stops for losses of 123 yards, three interceptions for 89 yards in returns, 12 pass deflections, four fumble recoveries and three forced fumbles … His 383 tackles rank 11th on the school's all-time record list … His 48 stops behind the line of scrimmage are the most ever by a Tech linebacker and rank fourth overall behind Greg Gathers (57, 1999-2003), Coleman Rudolph (52, 1989-92) and Marco Coleman (50, 1989-91). ANALYSIS Positives: Has a compact frame with good overall muscle development, thick upper body and arms, good hamstrings and bubble … Will push himself to improve and gives total effort from snap to whistle … Flows to the ball with ease and has a nice feel to locate the pigskin in the open … Comes downhill well and has the strength to hold his ground vs. inside running plays … Plays with good knee bend and leverage to take on blocks … Can hold ground and shed blocks effectively … Uses his hands to knock the tight ends off their routes … Has adequate speed to run laterally and cut off the outside … Works best in the box, showing strength to wrap and secure as a tackler … Has natural hands for the interception … Shows nice timing on stunts and blitzes … Has the quickness to chase down plays and deliver a strong hit upon contact. Negatives: While he has a nice feel to locate the ball, he hesitates some in his reads … Has good lateral quickness, but can get caught outside of himself when working in space (more comfortable playing in the box) … Needs to use his hand punch better to separate from blocks when redirecting through trash … Little too stiff in his hips to shadow the receiver outside the short area … Needs to get better depth in his pass drops and does not have the sudden burst needed to close … Shows strength pushing the pocket, but when he does not extend his hands, he can be caught up and sustained by the bigger blockers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 14, 2004 Ooooooh. Nice pick, Rant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 I agree, I was hoping he was going to drop to the start of the third round for my Giants pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 12 hours are up Denver takes Ben Watson, Tight End, Georgia Shannon Sharpe has to retire at some point, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 Next three 56. Green Bay Packers - Kahran 57. New England Patriots - Harley 58. Tennessee Titans - Gert T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 I'll likely be on throughout the afternoon so PM me if I'm not on when it's my time to pick or even if I am on, heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2004 Well with Sean Jones chosen, it makes sense to draft the best player available which also happens to be at a position of need. With the 56th Overall Pick of the 2004 Smartmarks NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select J. P. Losman, Quarterback, Tulane Position: Quarterback School: Tulane Green Wave Status: Senior Height : 6-3 Weight: 220 40-Yard Dash: 4.72 Positives: J.P. Losman has the physical attributes you want in an NFL quarterback. He has good size (6-3, 220) and strength, a very strong arm that can make all the throws including the deep out, and one of the quickest releases in all of college football. Losman has decent agility, and good speed. He also has above average athletic ability. He can make plays with his feet and can throw on the run. He's a fiery competitor, a tough leader and can take a hit. He doesn't get shaken often. Negatives: Losman doesn't set his feet real well, throws off his back foot often causing the ball to sail, and doesn't rotate his hips properly. At Tulane, he played mostly out of the shotgun and will have to adjust to playing under center. He tends to rush his throws at times and will force the pass too often. Sometimes tries to make too much happen by himself. Also needs to work on reading coverages a little better. Projection: Tulane's J.P. Losman has everything NFL scouts look for in a quarterback, but he needs to polish his game a little, especially his footwork. He should be selected anywhere from the late-first to second round of the 2004 NFL Draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites