10 Contractors Being Held Hostage In Iraq

[Guest MikeSC]

First of all.

 

Im not european,

 

Im Australian,

I feel sorry for you. Lovely place to visit, but who on God's Earth would want to LIVE there?

"mike" , Im guessing your american,

Lightning-quick, are ye? Steel trap of a mind there, son. That grasp of the obvious is the type of thing people write books about.

 

Well, not Australian people --- but educated ones who play a relevant role in the world.

The complete lack of common sense sort of gives it away.

Well, that and basic punctuation, grammar, and an ability to use the "quote" button properly.

-=Mike

...Laughing at you, not with you

[Guest SEX]

Come on, mike,

 

Show me how smart you are,

 

What exactly would "blowing them up" achieve?

 

As for your comments about Australia, I will let them go through to the keeper,

 

Oh and I guess the fact that Austaralia with the UK are the main members of the coalition of the willing means nothing to you,

 

because we mean nothing,

[Guest MikeSC]

Come on, mike,

 

Show me how smart you are,

I don't live in Australia. That should show something.

What exactly would "blowing them up" achieve?

Who is "them"? Terrorists or Arabs in the Middle East?

 

Terrorists? Eliminates them.

Arabs? Ne benefit there.

As for your comments about Australia, I will let them go through to the keeper,

 

Oh and I guess the fact that Austaralia with the UK are the main member of the coalition of the willing means nothing to you,

 

because we mean nothing, 

W. Europe says we did this whole thing UNILATERALLY. Which means ALONE -- with NO help.

 

So, to those who YOU agree with, YOU are irrelevant.

-=Mike

[Guest SEX]

Terrorists? Eliminates them.

 

How exactly do you eliminate a group that has no homeland,

 

Oh thats right, America instead just blames muslims,

 

I guess to you guys there all "terrorist",

 

A pity its more likely that a terrorist lives next door to you,

 

W. Europe says we did this whole thing UNILATERALLY. Which means ALONE -- with NO help.

 

So, to those who YOU agree with, YOU are irrelevant.

 

I dont aggree with anyone, I have the ability to form my own opinion,

 

something that you clearly are unable to do,

[Guest MikeSC]

Terrorists? Eliminates them.

 

How exactly do you eliminate a group that has no homeland,

 

Oh thats right, America instead just blames muslims,

 

I guess to you guys there all "terrorist",

 

A pity its more likely that a terrorist lives next door to you,

This is what happens when somebody with the intellectual depth of a frisbee attempts to be philosophical. Don't try things you can't do, kids. It's seldom a pretty picture.

W. Europe says we did this whole thing UNILATERALLY. Which means ALONE -- with NO help.

 

So, to those who YOU agree with, YOU are irrelevant.

I dont aggree with anyone, I have the ability to form my own opinion,

 

something that you clearly are unable to do,

Of COURSE you do.

 

You're so cute when you're posting gibberish.

-=Mike

[Some Guy 0]

Terrorists? Eliminates them.

 

How exactly do you eliminate a group that has no homeland,

 

 

 

 

By seeking them out and killing them.

 

 

Oh thats right, America instead just blames muslims,

 

I guess to you guys there all "terrorist",

 

Ummm... No. Who here has said that all Muslims are terrorists? WHo in the US gov't said that? The goal if you recall is and has been to "rout 'em out", not blow up all Muslims. We've tried very hard to blow up as few non-terrosists as humanly possible.

 

A pity its more likely that a terrorist lives next door to you,

 

If this makes any sense it is beyond me.

 

W. Europe says we did this whole thing UNILATERALLY. Which means ALONE -- with NO help.

 

So, to those who YOU agree with, YOU are irrelevant.

 

I dont aggree with anyone, I have the ability to form my own opinion,

 

something that you clearly are unable to do,

 

So, when someone has an opinion differing from your's, they are unable to form their own opinion, but when you have one that just so happens to agree with the prevailing left wing dogma it is an original opinion. Is this accurate? Seems to be.

 

You see, I know it's hard for you to wrap your arogant, narrow little mind around this concept, but there are people other than you, who form opinions in the same way you claim to, and some of them *GASP* disagree with you. Imagine that!

[Guest SEX]

So, when someone has an opinion differing from your's, they are unable to form their own opinion, but when you have one that just so happens to agree with the prevailing left wing dogma it is an original opinion. Is this accurate? Seems to be.

 

You see, I know it's hard for you to wrap your arogant, narrow little mind around this concept, but there are people other than you, who form opinions in the same way you claim to, and some of them *GASP* disagree with you. Imagine that!

 

not true "some guy"

 

while "mike" views seem to be lifted form "fox news", I read a variety of information from varies resources,

 

I am not easily led, like the current american population,

 

I never believed there was WMD's

 

I Disaggree with occupying powers,

 

I believe America's support of Israel is the underlying factor behind the ongoing "war on terrorism,

 

and

 

I firmly believe American is destroying this planet

 

 

 

This are my opinions, that have been formed through experience, just because I aggree with someone on one topic, doesnt mean I do on everything.

[Guest MikeSC]

not true "some guy"

 

while "mike" views seem to be lifted form "fox news", I read a variety of information from varies resources,

 

I am not easily led, like the current american population,

Of course you're not. You're SO much more clever. I mean, your posts just SHOW your level of intellect. Thank God you're NOT a cliche of every moronic left-wing sentiment internationally, huh?

I never believed there was WMD's

Well, if only the ENTIRE WORLD listened to a petulant child such as yourself...

I Disaggree with occupying powers,

Let me guess, you have NO clue what you're talking about, do you?

I believe America's support of Israel is the underlying factor behind the ongoing "war on terrorism,

Ah, yes, it's not the people bombing Israel causing the problems --- it's Israel for daring to retaliate for the senseless murder of innocents.

and 

I firmly believe American is destroying this planet



This are my opinions, that have been formed through experience, just because I aggree with someone on one topic, doesnt mean I do on everything.

No, you're opinions simply show that you're a blithering idiot along the lines of Kamui.

-=Mike

Edit: Some Guy --- see why I didn't waste the energy trying to debate him?

[Guest SEX]

 

The usual American comeback

 

"where right, Your wrong"

 

you have to laugh,

 

the funny thing is, these Iraqi men and childeren are going to make your country look like "wimps",

 

Its Vietnam all over again,

 

the Great america beaten by a "savages", AGAIN

[Some Guy 0]

So, when someone has an opinion differing from your's, they are unable to form their own opinion, but when you have one that just so happens to agree with the prevailing left wing dogma it is an original opinion. Is this accurate? Seems to be.

 

You see, I know it's hard for you to wrap your arogant, narrow little mind around this concept, but there are people other than you, who form opinions in the same way you claim to, and some of them *GASP* disagree with you. Imagine that!

 

not true "some guy"

 

while "mike" views seem to be lifted form "fox news", I read a variety of information from varies resources,

 

I am not easily led, like the current american population,

 

What makes you think Mike or I are easily led? Do you thik we were tax and spend Democrats during the Clinton administration? And we suddenly covertd to conservatism with the election of Bush? I don't think we are being led anywhere that we wouldn't be going with or without a Republican president.

 

I never believed there was WMD's,

 

Fair enough. But others agree with you. You better watch out, you just might be being led.

 

I Disaggree with occupying powers,

 

As, do many others.

 

I believe America's support of Israel is the underlying factor behind the ongoing "war on terrorism,

 

You're wrong, but others beleive that as well.

 

and

 

I firmly believe American is destroying this planet

 

Not exactly an original idea.

 

This are my opinions, that have been formed through experience, just because I aggree with someone on one topic, doesnt mean I do on everything.

 

Face it, every idea has already been expoused by some leading party or another. If you were in my shoes you'd be accusing yourself of following left wing dogma.

 

BTW, where do you live? And have you even seen Fox News?

[Guest MikeSC]

 

The usual American comeback

 

"where right, Your wrong"

Nah. I tend to use proper contractions and better spelling. But, hey, that's just me. Maybe you make your points better like that.

 

I mean, I doubt it as your points, thus far, have sucked --- but miracles can happen.

you have to laugh,

 

the funny thing is, these Iraqi men and childeren are going to make your country look like "wimps",

 

Its Vietnam all over again,

 

the Great america beaten by a "savages", AGAIN

Ah, the great liberal, rejoicing in the deaths of others.

 

You, little one, are a fucktard.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

So, when someone has an opinion differing from your's, they are unable to form their own opinion, but when you have one that just so happens to agree with the prevailing left wing dogma it is an original opinion. Is this accurate? Seems to be.

 

You see, I know it's hard for you to wrap your arogant, narrow little mind around this concept, but there are people other than you, who form opinions in the same way you claim to, and some of them *GASP* disagree with you. Imagine that!

 

not true "some guy"

 

while "mike" views seem to be lifted form "fox news", I read a variety of information from varies resources,

 

I am not easily led, like the current american population,

 

What makes you think Mike or I are easily led? Do you thik we were tax and spend Democrats during the Clinton administration? And we suddenly covertd to conservatism with the election of Bush? I don't think we are being led anywhere that we wouldn't be going with or without a Republican president.

 

I never believed there was WMD's,

 

Fair enough. But others agree with you. You better watch out, you just might be being led.

 

I Disaggree with occupying powers,

 

As, do many others.

 

I believe America's support of Israel is the underlying factor behind the ongoing "war on terrorism,

 

You're wrong, but others beleive that as well.

 

and

 

I firmly believe American is destroying this planet

 

Not exactly an original idea.

 

This are my opinions, that have been formed through experience, just because I aggree with someone on one topic, doesnt mean I do on everything.

 

Face it, every idea has already been expoused by some leading party or another. If you were in my shoes you'd be accusing yourself of following left wing dogma.

 

BTW, where do you live? And have you even seen Fox News?

Some guy, this kid is Kamui V.2

 

Trying to intellectually debate a kid who calls Iraqis "savages" and rejoices in the deaths of American soldiers is a waste --- much like his birth.

-=Mike

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Alright, we all had a nice little laugh. Now we can get back down to business.

[BX 0]

Could you clarify why "SEX" was banned?

[Guest MikeSC]

Could you clarify why "SEX" was banned?

He was a Kamui-esque troll, most likely.

-=Mike

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Could you clarify why "SEX" was banned?

He was a Kamui-esque troll, most likely.

-=Mike

Yep.

[tommytomlin 0]

What the fuck's wrong with living in Australia?

 

Seriously, America has better cable television and snow. That's about it.

 

You'd think fighting in like, every war ever, and giving you guys Paul Hogan would be enough to get some cred in this place.

[Firestarter 0]

Could you clarify why "SEX" was banned?

He was a Kamui-esque troll, most likely.

-=Mike

Yep.

In that case, could you clarify why BX hasn't been banned?

[Cartman 0]

Probably because they can't ban EVERYONE just because they don't agree with all the Right Wing, Conservative, Jesus Freaks that pollute this forum with their elitists opinions.

 

Mike, why is it whenever someone posts a differing opinion that yours, you attack them personally? Was there really any need to make fun of Austrailia just because that's where he lived? Calling him a fucktard was really sweet on your part as well. It's one thing to criticize people for making stupid comments, but it's another thing to attack them personally for it.

 

Believe it or not there is a LOT more people in general that have similar beliefs that disagree with yours Mike. Just accept that and try to show a little more integrity by now calling people names and insulting their countries per usual.

[Prime Time Andrew Doyle 0]

Its idiots like SEX who give Australians like me a bad name. Bad spelling and grammer, he uses even worse arguments. Thank fuck he got banned and was stopped from making us all look like dickheads with our heads in the sand. On a side note, why do half of the Australians who post on message boards love using the worl "mate" so much. Seriously, when speaking, yes it is acceptable, but when you are typing, there is no need. Speaking, it will just fall out of your mouth, but typing, you gotta type that word out, it isn't an accidental thing, you deliberatly type out the word "mate"

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

calling people names and insulting their countries per usual.

 

Yeah, because ol' Coitus there had tons of nice things to say about America and Americans. He came across as radiating pure high-frequency tard, and was blatantly called on it. I don't see where anyone insulted his mother or his personal life.

 

If he actually had a documented point, then perhaps his opinions would be worth something.

 

the Right Wing, Conservative, Jesus Freaks that pollute this forum with their elitists opinions

 

This is the hot new buzzword phrase for this forum. It's NOT solely right-leaning. There's Marney, Mike, Slapnuts, Tom, and Mike who'd call themselves conservative, I imagine, and at least two of them are in favor of more than one liberal program that I remember them mentioning, so it's not like this place has suddenly turned into the O'Reilly factor. If nothing else, the founts of leftist solipsism here are every bit as annoying as those stodgy righties.

 

This is why I'm politically bisexual. Both sides have their nice features, but it's no good to get too wrapped up in one kind of sodomy, because something will eventually ache.

[Guest MikeSC]

Probably because they can't ban EVERYONE just because they don't agree with all the Right Wing, Conservative, Jesus Freaks that pollute this forum with their elitists opinions.

I'm a Jesus freak? Wow. I'm Christian and all, but it's hardly an obsession in my life.

Mike, why is it whenever someone posts a differing opinion that yours, you attack them personally?

I don't. When somebody is a prick in the process, then I unload on them.

Was there really any need to make fun of Austrailia just because that's where he lived?

Don't want your home country bashed --- don't bash my home country. Simple concept.

Calling him a fucktard was really sweet on your part as well.

Startlingly apt description.

It's one thing to criticize people for making stupid comments, but it's another thing to attack them personally for it.

Nah. His opinions were so devoid of worth that they were unable to be insulted.

Believe it or not there is a LOT more people in general that have similar beliefs that disagree with yours Mike. Just accept that and try to show a little more integrity by now calling people names and insulting their countries per usual.

Care for some cheese with that whine?

-=Mike

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Could you clarify why "SEX" was banned?

He was a Kamui-esque troll, most likely.

-=Mike

Yep.

In that case, could you clarify why BX hasn't been banned?

Because BX doesn't post just to start a fight. He also can spell and use adequate grammar.

[Firestarter 0]

He also can spell and use adequate grammar.

I'll grant you that.

[BX 0]

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[Styles 0]

I believe America's support of Israel is the underlying factor behind the ongoing "war on terrorism,

Yeah, this guy was a grade A maroon...but it did give me a promp to post today's http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mf21.html#u ISRAEL MYTH AND FACT OF THE DAY~!

 

MYTH

 

“America's support of Israel is the reason that terrorists attacked the World Trade Center and Pentagon on September 11.”

 

FACT

 

The heinous attacks against the United States were committed by Muslim fanatics who had a variety of motivations for these and other terrorist attacks. These Muslims have a perverted interpretation of Islam and believe they must attack infidels, particularly Americans and Jews, who do not share their beliefs. They oppose Western culture and democracy and object to any U.S. presence in Muslim nations. They are particularly angered by the existence of American military bases in Saudia Arabia and other areas of the Persian Gulf. This would be true regardless of U.S. policy toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Nevertheless, an added excuse for their fanaticism is the fact that the United States is allied with Israel. Previous attacks on American targets, such as the USS Cole and U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, were perpetrated by suicide bombers whose anger at the United States had little or nothing to do with Israel.

 

“Osama bin Laden made his explosions and then started talking about the Palestinians. He never talked about them before.”

 

— Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak31

 

 

Osama bin Laden claimed he was acting on behalf of the Palestinians, and that his anger toward the United States was shaped by American support for Israel. This was a new invention by bin Laden clearly intended to attract support from the Arab public and justify his terrorist acts. The fact is bin Laden's antipathy toward the United States has never been related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Though many Arabs were taken in by bin Laden's transparent effort to drag Israel into his war, Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-Ansari, dean of Shar'ia and Law at Qatar University was critical, "In their hypocrisy, many of the [Arab] intellectuals linked September 11 with the Palestinian problem — something that completely contradicts seven years of Al-Qaida literature. Al-Qaida never linked anything to Palestine."31a

 

Even Yasser Arafat told the Sunday Times of London that bin Laden should stop hiding behind the Palestinian cause. Bin Laden "never helped us, he was working in another completely different area and against our interests," Arafat said.32b

 

Though Al-Qaida's agenda did not include the Palestinian cause, the organization has begun to take a more active role in terror against Israeli targets, starting with the November 28, 2002, suicide bombing at an Israeli-owned hotel in Kenya that killed three Israelis and 11 Kenyans, and the attempt to shoot down an Israeli airliner with a missile as it was taking off from Kenya that same day.32c

 

BONUS MYTH~!

 

MYTH

 

“Groups like Hizballah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the PFLP should be excluded from the U.S. war on terrorism because they are freedom fighters and not terrorists.”

 

FACT

 

 

When the United States declared a war on terrorists and the nations that harbor them after September 11, Arab states and their sympathizers argued that many of the organizations that engage in violent actions against Americans and Israelis should not be targets of the new American war because they are "freedom fighters" rather than terrorists. This has been the mantra of the terrorists themselves, who claim that their actions are legitimate forms of resistance to Israeli occupation.

 

  “You can't say there are good terrorists and there are bad terrorists.”

 

— U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice36

 

 

 

 

 

This argument is deeply flawed. First, the enemies of Israel rationalize any attacks as legitimate because of real and imagined sins committed by Jews since the beginning of the 20th century. Consequently, the Arab bloc and its supporters at the United Nations have succeeded in blocking any condemnation of any terrorist attacks against Israel. Instead, they routinely sponsor resolutions criticizing Israel when it retaliates.

 

Second, nowhere else in the world is the murder of innocent men, women and children considered a "legitimate form of resistance." The long list of heinous crimes includes snipers shooting infants, suicide bombers blowing up pizzerias and discos, hijackers taking and killing hostages, and infiltrators murdering Olympic athletes. Hizballah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, the PFLP, and a number of other groups, mostly Palestinian, have engaged in these activities for decades and rarely been condemned or brought to justice. All of them qualify as terrorist groups according to the U.S. government's own definition — "Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"37 — and therefore should be targets of U.S. efforts to cut off their funding, to root out their leaders and to bring them to justice.

 

In the case of the Palestinian groups, there is no mystery as to who the leaders are, where their funding comes from and which nations harbor them. American charitable organizations have been linked to funding some of these groups and Saudia Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran and the Palestinian Authority all shelter and/or financially and logistically support them.

 

 

“...there are responsibilities that come with being the representative of the Palestinian people. And that means to make certain that you do everything that you can to lower the level of violence, everything that you can to root out terrorists and arrest them, to make sure that the security situation in the Palestinian territories — Area A, for instance — isone from which terror cannot spring....These are responsibilities we have asked Chairman Arafat to take, and to take seriously. We still don't think that there has been enough in this regard....You cannot help us with al-Qaida and hug Hizbullah. That's not acceptable. Or Hamas.”

 

— U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice38