Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Griffey Homers, 5 away from 500 Nice to see he and Dunn homering in the same game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 The Cubs' lack of clutch hitting is starting to really piss me off tonight. TWICE they've had the bases loaded with NO OUTS. The results: 0-5, 4 K's, and a 1-2-3 double play. Even more pathetic than their perfomances in some of the playoff games last year. Corey Patterson better get his free swinging ass under control. That boy is KILLING them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Abreu pinch hits for Doug Glanville. I take everything back I've ever said about Larry Bowa. He rules it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 The Cubs' lack of clutch hitting is starting to really piss me off tonight. "IT'S FUCKING LUCK!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Nice to see he and Dunn homering in the same game. Now let's see 'em do it again in the top of the 10th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Another HOMER from Mr. Dunn! 6-5! reds at the top of 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 The Cubs' lack of clutch hitting is starting to really piss me off tonight. "IT'S FUCKING LUCK!" Not tonight it ain't. When you have the bases loaded and no outs TWICE and get ZERO runs on the board, it's not luck of any kind. It's bad baseball. Period. If you'd seen the 0-1 fastball Derrek Lee let go idly by, you'd be pissed off too. That baby had extra bases written all over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Some guy had dinner with Peter Gammons and sent the following to a website run by a Red Sox fan. Thought I'd put it up for everybody. 6.1.04 Exclusive: A friend of ours had dinner with Peter Gammons the other night. As always, don't shoot the messenger: "- A-Rod, not Theo, John Hart or John Henry, initiated the talks b/w The Sox and the Rangers... always wanted to come to Boston... thought it'd be great for baseball to have him in Boston and Jeter in NY... wanted to keep Boras out of it b/c he didn't want it to get F'd up... just wanted out of Texas. Happy to be in NY but would rather be playing in Boston. - At one point during the whole saga, A-Rod was talking to Gammons as he walked through Downtown Crossing and people were shouting things like "What's gonna happen?" and "Is it gonna get done?" at him... he held up his cell phone and was like "Do you hear this?" and A-Rod was all fired up about the passion of the city and the Sox fans. - Did A-Rod bastardize his career by moving to 3B? Yes. - Schilling is tough to take in the clubhouse... not surprisingly, he's got an opinion on everything and it rubs a lot of guys the wrong way. Some of the Dbacks who weren't fans of his were out w/ PG once and spoke glowingly about the Big Unit and what a good guy he is... and every one of them, to a man, said if they had to win one game, they'd want Schilling out there. - Mussina, when he was coming up on Free Agency, told his agent, "I'm going to Pennsylvania (his home), make sure I end up with the Yankees... we shouldn't take less than $10M/year so anything you can get on top of that is fiction anyway... just make it happen" end result --- $15M/year deal. - Of the four Sox F.A's, it'll be Martinez and Varitek that re-sign with the team. - Kris Benson and Billy Koch, while at Clemson, were taking an exam together... both were struggling with it and Koch looks to Benson for some help. Benson was little, if any, help... Koch gets up and hands the blank booklet to the professor, walks back and says to Benson "see you in the Major Leagues" ...Gammons said that they use that phrase every once in a while on Baseball Tonight and that's what they're referring to. - David Ortiz is most likely older than his advertised 28. His lockeroom presence can't be overstated... keeps everyone loose, the whole team loves him. - He thinks Arn Tellem wanted Nomar to take the $15M/yr for 4 when it was offered but Nomar's so competitive, he wanted to be paid like Jeter since he's had more production and is a better fielder. - Last off-season, Steinbrenner took Sheffield and Gooden out for dinner and over a bunch of bottles of wine, they agreed to a handshake deal to bring Sheff to the Yanks... it was only afterwards that Sheff figured out what "deferred compensation" means and backed out. A few weeks later, Cashman had a deal w/ Vlad Guerrero more or less ironed out w/ only some language to be tweaked before making it official... only to have Big Stein come in and squash it, saying "we're signing Sheffield, not Guerrero." - Back in the mid 80's when Boggs and Mattingly were vying for the batting title, the Yanks played the Sox in the last series of the season. Boggs was ahead of Mattingly by a few percentage points and sat a few games out with a "bad back"... in the last game of the series, Mattingly needed to go 6-for-6 to beat Boggs... first at-bat, he homered, 2nd at-bat, he doubled... 3rd at-bat, he lined out to RF... on his way back to the dugout, Dewey Evans ran by Mattingly and said something to the effect of "It's too bad, we were all pulling for you". Boggs = Bad guy. - Jim Rice will be voted into the HoF by the veterans committee. - Dwight Evans was as good of a defensive outfielder as PG has seen... cut-off throws, angles taken on balls, etc... he also referenced Guerrero as a terrible defensive RF who every once in a while will make a eye-popping throw but more often will miss cut-off guys. - Carl Everetts' wife got into a fistfight with Bernard Gilkie's wife outside Fenway the day that he head-butted the umpire. - Team has a gag order regarding Nomar's diagnosis but clearly they got it wrong out of the gate. He also said that anyone who thinks he's trying to stick it to the team by sitting out longer than necessary is crazy... he's hyper-competitive and has too much pride. - If he had to win one game, this would be his line-up SP - Schilling C - Posada 1B - Pujols 2B -Giles SS - (would be Nomar if healthy) Renteria 3B - A-Rod LF - Bonds CF - V. Wells RF - Can't remember... I think he got sidetracked and never got to RF Closer - Gagne. - When Manny showed up for camp this year, the 3 owners along with Theo sat down with him to clear the air and at one point, Ramirez thoughtfully asked Gammons if he thought Manny was a "cancer" in the clubhouse, as it had been written. Gammons thinks this off-season caused him to do some real soul-searching and has re-dedicated himself to enjoy the game more and embrace Boston rather than keeping it at a distance. - In reference to the steroid scandal, instead of talking about hitters and power numbers, he focused mostly on pitchers and how velocity is markedly down from starters to relievers... another thing he mentioned is how desperate guys in the minors and overseas are to have just a few seasons earning Major League money... therefore the desire to stay competitive and do whatever it takes. - While Mo Vaughn was MIA a few seasons back, a member of Mets management received a phone call from a guy in Chicago who was with him... at Scores, the strip club. - Canseco (biggest waste of talent he's seen) thought the ball hitting his head and bouncing over the fence for the home run was funny and that it'd make a good highlight... the pitchers on that team hated him for that. Also, when he pitched in some extra-inning game later in his career, his arm was dragging so much so that he could barely lift his arm above his head weeks afterwards. - Gammons was staying at the same hotel in Hawaii that Mia and Nomar (and actually Mia's seats are right next to Gammons' at Fenway so he's pretty tight with her)...they saw on Sportscenter that it looked like he was being traded, that's the first they heard of it. - Sox brass is keen on Frank Catalanotto from the Jays. - If Mets are out of the playoff race, don't be surprised if Al Leiter comes up to Boston to pitch at Fenway for the last few months of the season. - Players in general LOVE Theo... has a way about him that's very approachable and is always super-prepared for any and all discussions. Theo loves to have people surrounding him who will take the other side of arguments re: player ideas, etc. - Foulke could've got the same money from Oakland but liked Boston b/c he liked the way Theo and the mgmt treated him... Bruins game, etc. - I hate to mention it but in Game 7 of the ALCS last year, Grady Little unequivocally told Pedro he was done after the 7th inning but then during the top half of the 8th, decided he wanted Pedro to face Nick Johnson only... obviously, he faced more than Nick Johnson… and the rest is history." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 2, 2004 LAUGH NOW, FATTY! LAUGH NOW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 As always, the greatest news breaks are reported on messageboards by anonymous fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 2, 2004 see if Graves can keep his recent 1-2-3 outing streak intact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 2, 2004 fuck...gravey is back to his old form...another double. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Great catch by Griffey. Come on, 1 more out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Dunn makes the simple catch and the reds survive despite another scare from Graves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Graves is giving up runs because I traded him. Couldn't turn down sending him and Steve Trachsel out for Wade Miller and Chris Carpenter in return. Especially when I also have Herges and Foulke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 There's like 5 fantasy baseball threads elsewhere. Go talk about that stupid shit there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 2, 2004 How about...no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Dunn makes the simple catch and the reds survive despite another scare from Graves. Maybe they can trade him for Rocky Biddle. Oh, and Halladay's hurt and not pitching tonight, apparently his shoulder's bugging him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Abreu pinch hits for Doug Glanville. I take everything back I've ever said about Larry Bowa. He rules it. I would have preferred to let Glanville hit, then pinch hit Abreu for Michaels if needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Cubs lose and I for one think that's what's best. I love them, but when you squander not one but two bases loaded nobody out situations and don't capitalize in the least on either one, it's your fault. Corey can be great with the leather and good with the bat on occassion, but until he learns to stop swinging at everything, the Cubs are in some trouble. Their lower third of the batting order is just death most of the time and that was quite clear tonight. I figured if they wanted to take two of three, tonight was the night to win, since Clemens is on the mound tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Really, it was tied until that terrible call made by the first-base umpire, but anyways I expect Corey to be the new Alf in terms of fan reception. And tomorrow Clemens gets his first loss. You heard it here first, but in case it doesn't happen, I'll just pick out some obscure moment from the game and say that's why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Really, it was tied until that terrible call made by the first-base umpire What, you mean the one where Lee's foot came off the bag? One replay we got here showed that it wasn't by much, but Lee did come off the bag. The fact that the Cubs didn't really protest too much gives it away as well. More of the blame has to go on Farnsworth though, for two reasons. One, the pitch that Ausmus tapped to reach base was hittable, and it shouldn't have been. He'd been blowing him away with the high heat...why not stick with it? Ausmus was way behind it. Two, he served up a fat one to Lamb. You just cannot leave that juicy of a pitch out there and expect major league hitters to miss it very often. Farnsworth has great stuff, but he just makes too many mistakes. Anyway, my sentiments are similar to Bruiser's. The Cubs did deserve to lose tonight. Maybe the boos that rained down will serve to wake them up a bit and be just a little bit smarter at the plate in such crucial situations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 2, 2004 WAYYYY too close of a ninth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I doubt Corey will become disliked as much as Alfonseca, since Corey has shown many times before the kind of potential he's got. He's still a young kid, too, so he's going to get better. It may sound like I'm covering for the guy, but I'm just point out the facts. I think he'll get better but until then, he's going to go through this growing pains and the fans (myself included) are going to have to be a bit more understanding. There's really no excuse to strike out twice with the bases loaded and the chance to put your team ahead, but that's just baseball sometimes. And let's not say they lost because of the Lee error. Farns had Ausmus right where he wanted him and had he thrown him one more fastball, that wouldn't have happened, since Brad had nothing on him. As it was, he decided to get cute with him, Walker made a bad throw and Lee took his foot off the base. Good teams overcome calls that don't go their way. The Cubs didn't do that tonight. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Headline he'll get instead; "Phillies trade with Pirates, bring back Jose Mesa" Also "Mel Rojas Makes a Major League Comeback, Signs With Phillies" W00t, Mets win! That was odd with Todd Zeile throwing the bat... Ricky Bottalico gets the win for the Mets, he's got a 1.20 ERA (WTF?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 A's are up 4-3 on the White Sox in the bottom of the 8th. The big question now is: will they give Arthur Rhodes another chance? I'm hoping they just score three or four runs in the bottom of the 8th so I don't even have to worry about it. Edit: Jim Mecir is up in the bullpen...um is this supposed to make me feel better? Damn just let Duchscherer have a shot already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Jose Valentin homers, tie game. Shoot me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 *loads gun* Now stand very still. This will only take a moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Frank Menechino hit a homer last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 By the way, the D-Backs have the winning run on third with one out. The Giants' streak may be over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
