tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Yeah the Tag title scene blows, I'll be the first to admit it. In fact I havent even like the tag division since Raw & Smackdown originally split from on another. But I had to admit it was starting to finally look up again before Wrestlemania this year, when both Raw and Smackdown had tag matchs that featured 4 teams each. Then it hit the fan again. The Lottery draft which split up two teams, Mark Jindrack & Garrison Cade, which yeah no one cared about anyways, but the big blow was the splitting up of The Worlds Greateast Tag Team with Benjiman & Haas granted Benjiman & Haas havent missed a step since it happened but still they were one of the beat tag teams in the WWE since the days of E&C, The Hardys, & The Dudleys were all killing each other in TLC matches. Also Smackdown took another blow with the Firing of Faarooq, ending the APA, and whats worse giving Bradshaw a unforgiveable push to the moon. Anyways I sat back and thought about it, how many tag teams are left. To say I was suprised when I figured it out was a understatement. Smackdown believe it or not has no less then 8 tag teams they can use, they can actually have a successful tag team division. Think about it they have the tag champs Charlie Haas & Rico which I bought as a tag team easily and right away, and then theres also, The Dudley Boys, The Basham Brothers, Scotty 2 Hotty & Rikishi, The F.B.I, and if they choose to continue to use them as teams theres also Akio & Sakoda, Billy Gunn & Hardcore Holly, & Paul London & Billy Kidman. So the Smackdown divsion although littered with crappy teams like The Bashams, Gunn & Holly, & Scotty & Rikishi, still have enough teams for a successful tag division, if they truely ulitized it. After figuring this out I thought what about Raw? Maybe they have some other teams that I never thought of, but alas they dont. Raws tag division rounds out with just there champs, La Resistance, and The Hurricane & Rosey.....what a sad state thats it, but just look at there last few tag champs on Raw, Benoit & Edge? Flair & Batista? Booker T & RVD? C'mon those are all teams that were just slapped together, granted Flair & Batista are both Evolution members but that dosnt make them a real tag team. So the question is what in the hell can Raw do to actually have a good tag division? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Get more and better tag teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 The tag division has been in the crapper for over a year now. And I'm tired of all these makeshift short reign teams that never last. And painfully long runs with unover and dull teams like La Resistance and The Bashams really don't help matters. Just put the tag titles on the Dudleys already, and give them a long heel run with it. Build up a story where no team can actually beat them. And then when someone does (NOT A MAKESHIFT!) it'll mean somerthing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 My answer is soooo much better. The WWE tag division has been in the crapper for a very long time. 2000 was probably the last time it was ever "strong" and even then it was "strong-ish". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 I don't mind La Resistance. It's better than seeing Sylvan in singles matches. What I do hate is tag teams being paired off simply to lead into a breakup and feud. Like Haas and Rico. We all know the plan is to have Jackie turn on Rico and go with Haas, so why are we going to care? The WWE needs new, full fledged tag teams. Hell, the team of Holly and Gunn might be passable if they attempted to make them over instead of having them play the same bland characters they've been for 6 years now. It also pains me to see Jim Cornette, who knows more about tag team wrestling than nearly anyone, putting together these effective teams in OVW such as the Lords of the Ring (Conway and Dinsmore), Nova and Idol, the Disciples of Synn, etc. only to see them either still toiling in OVW, or split up when they get called to the main roster. If you're grooming someone in a tag team, isn't it best to, y'know, BRING THEM UP as a tag team? Instead we get the LOTR broken up so that one guy can be put into a tag team and the other guy can be handicapped, the DoS get split so one guy is in a spot Sean O'Haire could be in while the other is on his way to be UT's next victim. Hopefully the same fate doesn't await Nova and Idol or Adrenaline, OVW's two best teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Durring the Hardys/Dudleys/E&C days I was still into it. and it hasn't been great for a while. But the last year has just been painfull...with the exception of WGTT and the Guerreros...two teams no longer together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 It also pains me to see Jim Cornette, who knows more about tag team wrestling than nearly anyone, putting together these effective teams in OVW such as the Lords of the Ring (Conway and Dinsmore), Nova and Idol, the Disciples of Synn, etc. only to see them either still toiling in OVW, or split up when they get called to the main roster. If you're grooming someone in a tag team, isn't it best to, y'know, BRING THEM UP as a tag team? Instead we get the LOTR broken up so that one guy can be put into a tag team and the other guy can be handicapped, the DoS get split so one guy is in a spot Sean O'Haire could be in while the other is on his way to be UT's next victim. Hopefully the same fate doesn't await Nova and Idol or Adrenaline, OVW's two best teams. I have to agree. This has been my pet peeve with WWE for months now. They split valid and well practiced tag teams up to give us Hurricane and Rosie. I would've loved to see DoS as a team in WWE. It would beat the shit out of Tomko and Mordecai. Don't even get me started on LOTR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Teams need to be TEAMS, not random midcarders bunged together or 'Wacky Partners Who Hate Each Other'. Matching costumes, tag names, tag moves, some sort of distinguishing factor. Stuff like that. There's plenty of half-decent/decent teams on the indie scene like the Havan Pitbulls or Simon/Swinger that could fit in with the WWE style. Not to mention the tag mentality the OVW has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 *I* think they should do some gimmick tag titles. Like, on RAW, have the "Intergender Tag Titles" and on Smackdown have the "6 man Cruiserweight Tag titles". That's what *I* think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 There's plenty of half-decent/decent teams on the indie scene like the Havan Pitbulls or Simon/Swinger that could fit in with the WWE style. Not to mention the tag mentality the OVW has. Simon/Swinger are under TNA contract, and are broken up. Simon is now "Irish" Pat Kenney, and Swinger teams with Glen Gilberti as the New York Connection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 There's plenty of half-decent/decent teams on the indie scene like the Havan Pitbulls or Simon/Swinger that could fit in with the WWE style. Not to mention the tag mentality the OVW has. Simon/Swinger are under TNA contract, and are broken up. Simon is now "Irish" Pat Kenney, and Swinger teams with Glen Gilberti as the New York Connection. Forgive me. The Wrestling Channel is only up to December '03. But, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 Teams need to be TEAMS, not random midcarders bunged together or 'Wacky Partners Who Hate Each Other'. Matching costumes, tag names, tag moves, some sort of distinguishing factor. Stuff like that. Sadly the Bashams have all of that and still cant get over, maybe if they wernt so bland, I say if there heels make them really really dispicable, get people to really hate them, do whatever it takes. It cant be that hard to do can it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 *I* think they should do some gimmick tag titles. Like, on RAW, have the "Intergender Tag Titles" and on Smackdown have the "6 man Cruiserweight Tag titles". That's what *I* think. I agree. They seem so hell bent on having guys and girls interact in the ring, they might as well do something with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 One problem that I do see with the REAL tag team thing... Many of the good tag team names have been taken already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Smackdown's tag team division was doing pretty good two years ago when Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle, Edge and Rey Mysterio, and Los Guerreros were putting on constant ****+ matches for the titles. Then, it looked ok with Chris Benoit and Rhyno, World's Greatest Tag Team, and Los Guerreros around WrestleMania 19, but once the titles got on The Basham Brothers it went down the drain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I agree. They seem so hell bent on having guys and girls interact in the ring, they might as well do something with it. Yeah! And none of this "bois kan't hitt gurls" bullshit, AND the titles should look different; one more feminine than the other and maybe the gurls title can smell nice and the boiz always want to wea5r it (kinda like the gurls bathroom! Always nicer than the boiz!")), AND they should be hoisted above the ring on a pole and in a box L:O:L cause its funny! And the cruisrweight title should be really tiny - like the old school NWA title that Lou Thesz gave the UWF-i. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. Except for the fact that, you know, Kidman sucks, and they'd never pull it off because Kidman would botch his constantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. Kidman's boring factor would cancel out the heat of the finisher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LivingLegendGaryColeman 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 The thing that is bugging me a little now is that people keep talking about how teams are broken up coming up and if I recall correctly, the guys coming up as tag teams have been singles stars. I know the Bashams were fueding in OVW, so they make the singles guys tag and the the tag guys single? It seems counterproductive to their training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. I don't think Kidman would appreciate London out-performing him on the SSP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I still don't think WWE fans know who Paul London is. On Smackdown you might see him once a month between matches and standing in the background durring skits. Put the guy on tv for 3 or 4 weeks in a row, give the fans a chance to get to know him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. I don't think Kidman would appreciate London out-performing him on the SSP. I dont think anyone cares what Kidman wants, he probally wouldnt even have a job anymore if not for Torrie Wilson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. I don't think Kidman would appreciate London out-performing him on the SSP. I dont think anyone cares what Kidman wants, he probally wouldnt even have a job anymore if not for Torrie Wilson. Probably? Kidman brings nothing to the table at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Champ Report post Posted June 5, 2004 It is a very simple solution have tag teams that have matching outfits and serious duo's. Like Kidman and London. Even two genetic guys from OVW could possibly be a team, just make them look distant. It could be as simple as throwing paint on their face or giving them fancy outfits and giving them a manager. The Tag Team title needs to be treated like the World Title, since it is a heavyweight championship belt. I hope the WWE can re-establish the tag team division again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Even two genetic guys from OVW could possibly be a team, just make them look distant. You mean like The Bashams perhaps??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Champ Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Or even two giants like Matt Morgan or any other OVW guy with the similar size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Sign Rick Steiner ready for Scott's return... Or if you want to be serious, push Kidman/London. Stereo SSP's to finish would get over big time. I don't think Kidman would appreciate London out-performing him on the SSP. Yeah, there's a reason why Paul London is doing the 450 splash now, and not the SSP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2004 he is??? thats awful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JacK Report post Posted June 6, 2004 He's doing a 450 splash? But his shooting star was so awesome! Maybe Billy went home and cried to Torrie and she got them to force London to stop using it. Test needs to be put in a tag team I've decided. Keep him off TV till he gets long hair, bring back the leather pants and make him mean Test again. That was cool. Maybe if they gave Garrison Cade a partner too, that might go well . . . though it didn't last time, but if he's going to be on TV there might as well be someone there to help out. Stevie too. They've got all these people hangin around doing nothing, they might as well stick 'em in tag teams and see how it all pans out, nothin to lose, at worst they go back to jobbin on Heat and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites