Vyce 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Yes, I still think he'll win. Kerry picked Edwards, which is, I suppose, the best choice he could have made given his choices (his best choice would have been probably McCain, but perhaps McCain realized that if he went along with that, he'd do nothing but divide the party). But Edwards, as I said before, is at best an unproven quantity, and regardless you know that the Bush campaign likely believed he would be the selection and have planned their campaign accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Bush will win. It'll be close but I don't think Bush is in any real danger of losing the election at this point. I don't see how Kerry can win if he can't even break a stalemate in the polls with all of the scandals of the last 6 months. It's also sad to see people like him less the more he shows his face. I think Kerry's peaked basically and can really only shoot himself in the foot at this point. He also has to avoid coming across like an asshole, which he's already failed to do a few times. The debates will be very dangerous for Kerry because it could be all over for him if he pulls a Gore at one of them. His other big problem is other members of his party. He needs to get ahold of Ted Kennedy and tell him to STFU about the war in Iraq. Hilary Clinton's "we're taking your tax cuts away" speech is another thing that could end the end hurt Kerry. Bush still has his VP to choose and he could put a serious dent in Kerry's campaign by bring out Powell, Rice or Rudy as his next VP choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Politics aside, I think it would be great for Bush to win just to see the hysteria the Left will perform upon a successful re-election campaign. Also, I would like to see Terry McAwful's reaction to a Bush win and Republican majorities in Congress. His spin over the last few elections have been great... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 God... if Kerry's first move as the nominee isn't to dump McAuliffe, he's a friggin' fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 I'll ask you all again, now that a VP pick has been announced, do you think Bush will be declared the winner on November 3rd? Absolutely. Kerry is a terrible candidate and, though this is being ignored, Bush is leading or tied in a ton of polls --- and this was AFTER a patch of bad crap from Iraq. Besides, if more people see the picks of Kerry trying to show that he doesn't hate guns (or ask him to explain how he can be for abortion and still think life begins at conception (or, in simple terms, he supports murder)), this could be a cakewalk. As Chris Matthews once pointed out, Americans tend to like the guy who looks more like an outdoorsman than a guy who lives in an office. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 He also has to avoid coming across like an asshole, which he's already failed to do a few times. The debates will be very dangerous for Kerry because it could be all over for him if he pulls a Gore at one of them. I don't think using the f-word in such sacred places like Rolling Stone and a slope in Aspen mean much anymore since Cheney's only been using it in the SENATE CHAMBER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 He also has to avoid coming across like an asshole, which he's already failed to do a few times. The debates will be very dangerous for Kerry because it could be all over for him if he pulls a Gore at one of them. I don't think using the f-word in such sacred places like Rolling Stone and a slope in Aspen mean much anymore since Cheney's only been using it in the SENATE CHAMBER. 1) He said it to Pat Leahy, who quite frankly deserves to hear it from every person on the planet. Hell, maybe Cheney said PHUCK you to him instead. 2) A VP swearing and a Presidential candidate swearing are slightly different beasts. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Cheney is the VP and might not even be on the ticket this time around. Kerry is the man people are voting for and he doesn't have the charisma to get away with things like Clinton could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 1) He said it to Pat Leahy, who quite frankly deserves to hear it from every person on the planet. Irrelevant "it's okay because I agree with him" garbage. 2) A VP swearing and a Presidential candidate swearing are slightly different beasts. Yeah, which guy's the one who already has an office? Oh yes, and IN THE SENATE CHAMBER. Not after business heading out to lunch, in the friggin' Senate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 1) He said it to Pat Leahy, who quite frankly deserves to hear it from every person on the planet. Irrelevant "it's okay because I agree with him" garbage. 2) A VP swearing and a Presidential candidate swearing are slightly different beasts. Yeah, which guy's the one who already has an office? Oh yes, and IN THE SENATE CHAMBER. Not after business heading out to lunch, in the friggin' Senate. Again, it's PAT LEAHY. He deserves a good PHUCK YOU as much as Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. Hell, if he punched him and kicked him in the nuts, I'd applaud. So, a candidate swearing at the men who are there to protect him because he's a clumsy oaf is peachy? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 A VP swearing and a Presidential candidate swearing are slightly different beasts. Yeah, if a Presidential candidate swears, he's a major-league asshole. Big time. Uh, wait a minute... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Double post -- Where did you come from?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Bush should consider picking a new running mate, but you probably won't see that happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Bush should consider picking a new running mate, but you probably won't see that happening. Cheney actually does serve a vital role. He is a MAJOR cog in the fund-raising apparatus and, like him or not, he doesn't seem out of place everywhere, something John Kerry has a problem with. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 I'm going to have fun watching Mike's head explode in November. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 I'm going to have fun watching Mike's head explode in November. Jesus, what is this hard-on you have for me? Good God, man, BUY A LIFE and leave me the hell alone. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 No Mike. And to contribute, Edwards is from my county, so it's safe to say he'll win all of the districts that make up my area, maybe more. I doubt he'll win NC, but he'll sure as hell make it tough for Bush to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 No Mike. Stop the incessant flame-baiting. You're simply trolling here. Go elsewhere, where your trolling is appreciated. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Shorter MikeSC: Stop being a troll, troll! We don't like your trolling ways here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 I'll give Cheney this; he's a lot better then Quayle. And that's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Shorter MikeSC: Stop being a troll, troll! We don't like your trolling ways here! I love that I'm called names by trollers and flamers. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted July 6, 2004 I wouldn't vote for any of you. Now quit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 I wouldn't vote for any of you. Now quit it. Hell, I AVOID other boards to avoid this kind of crap. Bitch at BX for bringing this juvenility over here. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Hell, I AVOID other boards to avoid this kind of crap. Bitch at BX for bringing this juvenility over here. -=Mike http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=57221 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Don't you post at 411 Mike? I've seen this type of stuff at 411 too, considering it's where Nemesis got his start. And anyway, this is the best possible choice for Kerry, now that Richardson withdrew himself from the running. It's too bad, because the guy who have shored up the Southwest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Don't you post at 411 Mike? I've seen this type of stuff at 411 too, considering it's where Nemesis got his start. Seriously, are you going to post substance, or JUST troll ad inifitum? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Ok. Keep being stupid. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Ok. Keep being stupid. Please. Don't see how I'm being the stupid one, but to make you happy, I'll ignore the troll from here on. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Did I name names? No. We all are capable of talking about an election without wiping boogers on each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 6, 2004 Did I name names? No. We all are capable of talking about an election without wiping boogers on each other. And that is what I seek to do. Thus, I'll ignore those who only seek to derail discussion. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
