The Convention

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Im not as worried about "hair" pollution as Kerry is

[BUTT 0]

I marked out for "Dreams" being played at the end.

[BX 0]

Shithead.

Ah, more of the intellectual discourse that makes HD the running joke it is amongst people who manage to avoid having their knuckles drag on the ground.

 

Go home, son.

-=Mike

Fuck you Mike. How's that for intellectual discourse? Kerry gave a powerful speech, and got the reactions he should have got.

 

If you wanna bury your bruised & battered head in your Sean Hannity JerkemOff toy & act like nothing happened, be my fucking guest.

 

You can talk shit all you want, but you aren't getting through to anyone here not named "GreatOne." Especially using condescending racist dribble like, "Go Home, Son."

[NoCalMike 0]

So the thread has now been reduced to what size reactions every line of speech received? Wonderful.

 

The speech was fine. Not the greatest ever, but it was a good rallying cry for the base, which is what the conventions are for. Personally, give me the debates over the conventions anyday of the week.

 

One thing I think will stick is the whole, "I will only take us to war when we have to, not when we want to" line. I am sure it will be brought up and used over and over ad nasuea in the next few months.

 

I'm still not voting for Kerry. Despite a good speech on the surface, the fact that I have to actually buy into it rather then just like it, is keeping me from throwing support behind him, among other reasons.

[Guest thebigjig]

I think when the crowd was chanting "kerry, kerry, kerry!!" Mike went into a rage and put his fingers in his ears

 

I liked Kerry's speech. I agreed with everything he said, and I was impressed by the reaction he got. He had several tough acts to follow, and he didn't dissapoint.

 

 

A friend of mine, who doesnt really follow politics, watched the speech out of curiosity... he sent his reaction to me via email

 

"Bush never looks as if he knows what he's talking about... he always looks confused, and when he gets into the complicated stuff, he gets that crooked shit eating sideways grin on his face, stutters, and tries to make the issue into a point a leads to point b leads to point c. Kerry while boring, looks as if he grasps the issues... I would feel more comfortable with someone like that in office than someone that reminds me of the dumb jocks I knew in high school"

[Guest MikeSC]

Fuck you Mike.

I appreciate the offer, but no thanks.

How's that for intellectual discourse?

Par for the course for you. Heck, it's a step up over your usual crap.

Kerry gave a powerful speech, and got the reactions he should have got.

Tepid reactions? OK. I won't argue there --- that is precisely what he said.

If you wanna bury your bruised & battered head in your Sean Hannity JerkemOff toy & act like nothing happened, be my fucking guest.

Nothing happened. Live with it.

You can talk shit all you want

Thanks.

but you aren't getting through to anyone here not named "GreatOne." Especially using condescending racist dribble like, "Go Home, Son."

Yes, THAT was racist.

 

Why don't you resume not posting here as well?

I think when the crowd was chanting "kerry, kerry, kerry!!" Mike went into a rage and put his fingers in his ears

Nah, I just listened rather than spanking it as so many here did.

I liked Kerry's speech. I agreed with everything he said, and I was impressed by the reaction he got. He had several tough acts to follow, and he didn't dissapoint.

Well, he got better reactions than Jimmy Carter --- but farts get better reactions than Carter.

-=Mike

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Kerry's reactions were well behind some of the other speeches but overall it got a decent reaction. The thing is Bush won't get any reaction since the Republican party doesn't believe in cheering and thankfully they don't like dancing. I swear, one more shot of a person dancing poorly to James Brown and I was going to vote for Bush just to spite them.

 

It was a solid speech, more of a "Hi, my name is..." speech than any policy which I expected so that's ok. Not sure about the Stem Cell thing (even though I agree with it) or him bringing up the things he learned in war but overall it was cool.

 

Doesn't make me want to vote for him, but that is what debates are for. I'm still undecided, leaning towards not voting.

[Guest MikeSC]

Bush will get good ovations.

 

Why?

 

Because his supporters are voting FOR him, not AGAINST Kerry.

 

Kerry is just a placeholder for this rage and God help him if he wins this election. He'll be neck deep in so much shit (remember how the Republicans had their judges filibustered? Think THAT will change if Dems get power?) and rage that he won't be able to get a damned thing done.

-=Mike

[2GOLD 0]

Bush will get good ovations.

 

Why?

 

Because his supporters are voting FOR him, not AGAINST Kerry.

 

Kerry is just a placeholder for this rage and God help him if he wins this election. He'll be neck deep in so much shit (remember how the Republicans had their judges filibustered? Think THAT will change if Dems get power?) and rage that he won't be able to get a damned thing done.

-=Mike

 

I'm going by what I saw on C-SPAN last night when they showed Bush's 2000 nomination speech. The crowd was very quiet. I've grown to expect it from the Republicans.

 

Just please, no more dancing.

[Dangerous A 0]

2Gold, I'm asking you to join me in writing in Lil Jon on the ballot as your vote for president.

[2GOLD 0]

2Gold, I'm asking you to join me in writing in Lil Jon on the ballot as your vote for president.

 

What's his platform?

If he even has one, I'm in.

[Guest thebigjig]

Oh please Mike... the democrats could have been literally bouncing off of the convention walls with everything Kerry said, and you would still say it wasn't a good response...

 

your credibility in juding these kinds of things went out the window when you argued that Bowling for Columbine wasn't successful... even though it was the most successful "documentary" at the time

 

They gave him a standing ovation... they cheered as loud as they could when he walked on the stage... they stood and applauded loudly after every point he made. You are the MASTER of exaggeration, making something out of nothing... and more often than not, making nothing out of something

[Spicy McHaggis 0]

I liked Kerry's speech. I agreed with everything he said...

The thing is he didn't say ANYTHING. The EXACT SAME speech could be made by someone at a Republican event. Kerry talked about everything but policy. I'm not even sure he mentioned his time in the Senate.

 

A friend of mine, who doesnt really follow politics...

 

...Kerry while boring, looks as if he grasps the issues...

Of course, one could ask if your friend even knows what those issues are, considering he doesn't really follow politics.

 

Also, anybody can grasp the issues. We all have the exact same goals. The difference lies in our methods to achieve those goals. Unfortunately, Kerry didn't say anything substantive.

[NoCalMike 0]

I liked Kerry's speech. I agreed with everything he said...

The thing is he didn't say ANYTHING. The EXACT SAME speech could be made by someone at a Republican event. Kerry talked about everything but policy. I'm not even sure he mentioned his time in the Senate.

 

A friend of mine, who doesnt really follow politics...

 

...Kerry while boring, looks as if he grasps the issues...

Of course, one could ask if your friend even knows what those issues are, considering he doesn't really follow politics.

 

Also, anybody can grasp the issues. We all have the exact same goals. The difference lies in our methods to achieve those goals. Unfortunately, Kerry didn't say anything substantive.

Right, but that is standard convention protocol anyway. It was not like he was expected to say anything other then sugar-coated fluff. Conventions are just feel-good rallies to get the base excited, and he is mostly addressing a room full of people who are voting for him regardless.

 

I am sure it will be much of the same at the RNC.

[Guest thebigjig]

I liked Kerry's speech. I agreed with everything he said...

The thing is he didn't say ANYTHING. The EXACT SAME speech could be made by someone at a Republican event. Kerry talked about everything but policy. I'm not even sure he mentioned his time in the Senate.

 

A friend of mine, who doesnt really follow politics...

 

...Kerry while boring, looks as if he grasps the issues...

Of course, one could ask if your friend even knows what those issues are, considering he doesn't really follow politics.

 

Also, anybody can grasp the issues. We all have the exact same goals. The difference lies in our methods to achieve those goals. Unfortunately, Kerry didn't say anything substantive.

He talked about the issues that mattered to him the most... stressed his vision, backed up his claim that he would be tough on terrorism, and criticised what he felt Bush was doing wrong

 

Shall I look up a transcript for you?

 

I've watched alot of convention speeches, and they all seem to be rhetoric... Did you want a pie chart? A by the numbers break down complete with analysis? Conventions are pep rallies... and I dont know about you, but at my high school pep rallies, the goal was chanting "win win win!" not "we're gonna win with this strategy..." followed by a complicated explanation of a new play

 

The goal of Kerry's speech was to get people to feel that they knew something about him... and judging from the early numbers I heard on CNN this morning and various radio programs, it seems to be a success.

 

I can't wait until Bush gives his convention speech, complete with the same rhetoric you're criticizing Kerry for, and waiting for the praise that will be reaped upon him

 

Oh... and it doesn't take a skilled policy expert to watch Bush improvise... it's a horrible experience that just works to back up the claim that he's not really the one that wears the pants in the Bush/Cheney family

[Dangerous A 0]

2Gold, I'm asking you to join me in writing in Lil Jon on the ballot as your vote for president.

 

What's his platform?

If he even has one, I'm in.

I think his platform goes something like..

 

Let me see you get low

Bounce that ass to the floor

 

Bend over to the front, touch your toes

bounce that ass up and down and get low!!

 

 

Basic gist: Get Low, for America that is!!!

[2GOLD 0]

2Gold, I'm asking you to join me in writing in Lil Jon on the ballot as your vote for president.

 

What's his platform?

If he even has one, I'm in.

I think his platform goes something like..

 

Let me see you get low

Bounce that ass to the floor

 

Bend over to the front, touch your toes

bounce that ass up and down and get low!!

 

 

Basic gist: Get Low, for America that is!!!

 

Well hell, he has my vote.

He's better than Kerry, Bush or...third option that is usually insane.

[Guest MikeSC]

Oh please Mike... the democrats could have been literally bouncing off of the convention walls with everything Kerry said, and you would still say it wasn't a good response...

 

your credibility in juding these kinds of things went out the window when you argued that Bowling for Columbine wasn't successful... even though it was the most successful "documentary" at the time

 

They gave him a standing ovation... they cheered as loud as they could when he walked on the stage... they stood and applauded loudly after every point he made. You are the MASTER of exaggeration, making something out of nothing... and more often than not, making nothing out of something

Yes, "bouncing off the walls". Sure. Tee hee. And you say I exaggerate. Cute. Leave the platonic crush at home.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

I thought Kerry's speech was never nicely done and I feel he came off great. I think he proved to a lot of people that he has the necessary passion and charisma to be President of the United States of America. He's a very serious threat to the Bush White House; which, if you think about it, is very surprising. Everyone was saying that the Democrats didn't have a chance in hell of winning the 2004 election. While Kerry may very well lose, he does, IMO, have a very good shot of winning.

 

I particularly liked his not-so-veiled shot at John Ashcroft. That was great.

[Guest thebigjig]

Oh please Mike... the democrats could have been literally bouncing off of the convention walls with everything Kerry said, and you would still say it wasn't a good response...

 

your credibility in juding these kinds of things went out the window when you argued that Bowling for Columbine wasn't successful... even though it was the most successful "documentary" at the time

 

They gave him a standing ovation... they cheered as loud as they could when he walked on the stage... they stood and applauded loudly after every point he made. You are the MASTER of exaggeration, making something out of nothing... and more often than not, making nothing out of something

Yes, "bouncing off the walls". Sure. Tee hee. And you say I exaggerate. Cute. Leave the platonic crush at home.

-=Mike

"bouncing off the walls" as in cheering so loud that you cant even hear a single word Kerry is saying on the microphone you hopeless twit

[snuffbox 0]

Mike, you just sound like a deluded old man...nobody else heard the crickets chirping, it was a good, well-received speech. You're starting to sound pretty sad....

[BX 0]

THEY WERE ACTIVELY BOOING KERRY, YOU MONKEYS. Hurba hur, doobelda blat.

-=Mike

[NoCalMike 0]

One factor that could be attributed to lowered crowd reaction could be the fact that he was jamming through the speech. He could have stayed paused longer at certain moments in the speech, but chose to start back up pretty quickly.....

[Guest GreatOne]

Shithead.

Ah, more of the intellectual discourse that makes HD the running joke it is amongst people who manage to avoid having their knuckles drag on the ground.

 

Go home, son.

-=Mike

Fuck you Mike. How's that for intellectual discourse? Kerry gave a powerful speech, and got the reactions he should have got.

 

If you wanna bury your bruised & battered head in your Sean Hannity JerkemOff toy & act like nothing happened, be my fucking guest.

 

You can talk shit all you want, but you aren't getting through to anyone here not named "GreatOne." Especially using condescending racist dribble like, "Go Home, Son."

Oh wow, I get a mention?

 

Yeah it's because of Mike's 'rants' that I think the Democrats are a bunch of wimps. Yeah doesn't have anything to do with THEIR PARTY or anything.

 

I'm glad John Edwards said what he did about Al-Qaeda. I never could actually PICTURE Al Gore threatening them but John Jr. made it possible. 'JOHN KERRY WILL PUT HIS *WIFE* ON THE LINE!!!!!!!!'

 

And if the shoe fits, walk on home boy.........................

[Vyce 0]

2Gold, I'm asking you to join me in writing in Lil Jon on the ballot as your vote for president.

 

What's his platform?

If he even has one, I'm in.

I think his platform goes something like..

 

Let me see you get low

Bounce that ass to the floor

 

Bend over to the front, touch your toes

bounce that ass up and down and get low!!

 

 

Basic gist: Get Low, for America that is!!!

I'm saving my vote for Juvenile.

 

Get slow-motion with him.

[Guest MikeSC]

Oh please Mike... the democrats could have been literally bouncing off of the convention walls with everything Kerry said, and you would still say it wasn't a good response...

 

your credibility in juding these kinds of things went out the window when you argued that Bowling for Columbine wasn't successful... even though it was the most successful "documentary" at the time

 

They gave him a standing ovation... they cheered as loud as they could when he walked on the stage... they stood and applauded loudly after every point he made. You are the MASTER of exaggeration, making something out of nothing... and more often than not, making nothing out of something

Yes, "bouncing off the walls". Sure. Tee hee. And you say I exaggerate. Cute. Leave the platonic crush at home.

-=Mike

"bouncing off the walls" as in cheering so loud that you cant even hear a single word Kerry is saying on the microphone you hopeless twit

Funny, I had no problem. I guess you simply have a shitty television. Oh well. I guess you don't have the time to make money, carrying around the cross you do.

Mike, you just sound like a deluded old man...nobody else heard the crickets chirping, it was a good, well-received speech. You're starting to sound pretty sad....

Didn't say crickets chirping. Said lukewarm. Compare the reaction to Sharpton or Clinton to Kerry's reaction. Nah, don't worry --- I know you don't read.

Yeah it's because of Mike's 'rants' that I think the Democrats are a bunch of wimps. Yeah doesn't have anything to do with THEIR PARTY or anything.

Don't you get it? The left is the ONLY group who thinks for themselves.

 

And they think for themselves in lockstep fashion that would make George Orwell blush.

 

We conservatives simply follow the leader. The left simply manages to ALL think for themselves in completely identical and absurd ways.

THEY WERE ACTIVELY BOOING KERRY, YOU MONKEYS. Hurba hur, doobelda blat.

That term is racist. Ban please --- oh wait, you're a liberal. You're supposed to be racist.

-=Mike

[Guest thebigjig]

Funny, I had no problem. I guess you simply have a shitty television. Oh well. I guess you don't have the time to make money, carrying around the cross you do.

 

No, the problem is that you're in denial... which is nothing new, so I don't even know WHY I'm making a case out of it. Heck ( ™ MikeSC), I should be completely used to it by now!

 

And I don't carry around a cross... George W. Christ does apparently

 

 

Didn't say crickets chirping. Said lukewarm. Compare the reaction to Sharpton or Clinton to Kerry's reaction. Nah, don't worry --- I know you don't read.

 

I guess your definition of "lukewarm" means... 20+ standing ovations, crowd chanting his name repeatedly, and an ovation upon his entrance that delegates and tv reporters called "deafening"

 

Comparing his speech to Sharptons is ridiculous. Sharpton screamed with emotion and anger, and rallied a pissed party in pure anger. Kerry gave an optimistic speech that gets applause, but not anything close to the riot that a speech full of anger will get you. And comparing him to Clinton, the poster boy for the Democratic party, is ridiculously stupid

 

Don't you get it? The left is the ONLY group who thinks for themselves.

 

We think that way from time to time because of tools like you

 

That term is racist. Ban please --- oh wait, you're a liberal. You're supposed to be racist.

 

No actual argumental reply necessary... the words speak for themselves

[Guest GreatOne]

Gee, standing o's for the Democratic candidate...........at the Democratic Convention, WHODATHUNKIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And how dare somebody compare Kerry to Clinton, since Kerry's only trying to win the presidency--that Clinton, you know, held.

 

BTW seeing how Michael Moore, your "hero" you know, got standing o's on Maher last night, you might wanna rethink your grandstanding (Then again the Bronx Zoo has nothing on Maher's audience as far as trained monkeys).

[Jobber of the Week 0]

his supporters are voting FOR him, not AGAINST Kerry.

I really have to call this into dispute. I've already asked conservatives here why they don't see how conservative policy will only flourish if we have government gridlock, and their answers seem to be along the lines of "But will Kerry do anything differently from Bush? Probably not, so I might as well vote for Bush so that Kerry doesn't win."

 

Bush has been spending millions running negative ads all over the place. California is hardly considered a battleground state and even I'm seeing them. Kerry's ads have been moderate to positive.

 

Heck, at one point just before Edwards was announced as running mate, if you went to Bush's website, you saw NO pictures of George W Bush. The picture of him in the logo at the top banner wasn't there, and there was no photos of him in the page except for a "Volunteer Now!" Flash that only occasionally showed up (it shares space with ads for a Party For The President ad and other things, changing with a browser refresh.) At the same time, there was four pictures of John Kerry, attatched to videos and attack pieces casting him in a negative light.

 

On Kerry's site at the same time, there are no pictures of George W Bush either. All you found is warm and fuzzy PR shots of Kerry like you'd expect from a campaign promotional.

 

 

And yet, somehow, our guy is always cast as the guy who's running on nothing but contempt for the other guy, and your guy is the guy with the uplifting message who takes the high road.

[Guest thebigjig]

*ahem*

 

Gee, standing o's for the Democratic candidate...........at the Democratic Convention, WHODATHUNKIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Well, ummmm... according to Mike, his reaction was tepid and lukewarm... which has gotta be the FIRST tepid/lukewarm response I've ever seen with that many standing ovations and name chanting!

 

It's obvious that you have problems analyzing basic posts here to understand that

 

And how dare somebody compare Kerry to Clinton, since Kerry's only trying to win the presidency--that Clinton, you know, held.

 

He compared the reaction a beloved former president got to a man that the Democrats are just getting to know... is it THAT hard for you to understand? Get a fucking clue

 

BTW seeing how Michael Moore, your "hero" you know, got standing o's on Maher last night, you might wanna rethink your grandstanding (Then again the Bronx Zoo has nothing on Maher's audience as far as trained monkeys).

 

I understand that you're relatively new here, but here's a bit of advice... Before you make absurd statements like this, I suggest you do a little homework... I bash Michael Moore alot in here, though I consider myself objective about it. I will defend him if I feel he's making a good point over someone else, but I've often stated how much the guy annoys me. Do I hate him as much as some? No, of course not... I agree with him on many things, but calling him my "hero" proves that you know SHIT as far my political beliefs, so kindly go fuck yourself