Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 That shouldn't have happened until January of next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 That actually had me glued to the tube with my mouth wide open...that's how you do it man!!!!! I loved it.....The thumbs down and then Orton's reaction were both pricesless The silence of JR and King just made it seem all that more brutal GREATEST RAW ENDING IN A LONG LONG TIME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Was JR crying at the end? His blue-chipper boyfriend just got slaughtered (another dumbass angle in 2002). Of course he's crying. And he mumbled "Is Evolution...really the solution?" dramatically at the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 That was the BEST executed Angle I've seen in YEARS. I don't know about you...but I was into it. They really had a good story there with Triple H acting as the mentor... *Thumbs down* Awesome. Godfather like. Dames Hells yeah. I just wonder if they should have waited a little longer. Nevermind. That really would have sucked to see an Orton centric Evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I was praying Batista would Electric Chair Drop him, but didn't really think it would happen until I saw the thumbs down. So does Orton become vengeful face that can't get backup or does he form an anti-Evolution force with, say, Benoit and Y2J (anticipating Edge in Evolution)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detox 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 best Raw in months the ste up for the turn was classic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 That was the BEST executed Angle I've seen in YEARS. I don't know about you...but I was into it. They really had a good story there with Triple H acting as the mentor... *Thumbs down* Awesome. Godfather like. Dames I was thinking the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Was JR crying at the end? His blue-chipper boyfriend just got slaughtered (another dumbass angle in 2002). Of course he's crying. And he mumbled "Is Evolution...really the solution?" dramatically at the end. I noticed that, too. It so will be a T-shirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 17, 2004 This should be a classic thread... and HHH just solidified his rep as the Satan of the WWE. Beautiful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 If they are SERIOUS about getting Orton over with the crowd as a heel...this is what they should do. He should LOSE tonight's match to Benoit, giving him the title back. Orton would be CRUSHED since the announcers and wrestlers would call his victory a fluke. Triple H could still be the leader of Evolution, going after the World Title and such. His consolation for Orton is to tell him that regardless of how long his title reign was, it was at SummerSlam and THAT's the match that's remembered, that's the match thats on the video stores, that's the match that goes on the annual highlight reels. Keeping Orton in his place... Orton would then be on a MISSION to win the World Title back...but was actually most concerned with how long his title reign would be. He ends up winning the World Title and holds it til Wrestlemania (making a BIG DEAL about his first title defense, which is an automatic draw with an over champion), where Triple H goes for the shot. Triple H tries to tell him that he doesn't want to hurt him, so Orton should just make it easy on him in their match. Orton is of course appalled and tells him that he doesn't have to listen to him. He won the World Title defeating a man that he couldn't (Benoit), he was the youngest champion, Triple H was how old? They wouldn't come to blows, but eventually Flair brings them together and agrees to a stipulation match. The winner of the match is not only the World Champion, but the leader of Evolution and the loser is kicked out. Dames You NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, make the HEEL the guy chasing the title going into Mania. Mania should be about good triumphing over evil, PERIOD. It's TWO MEGA over guys at that point. People would WANT to see this match with my plan. If you stack up the rest of the card, that would be a great, great match. Evolution is a coolish group and they're getting more cheers than boos, so a stip like that would draw the crowd in. Dames I understand that, Dames and if you were talking about ANY OTHER PPV I'd be like HOT DAMN, DAMES YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. But... it's WrestleMania. Sometimes you got to take a chance. I am CONFIDENT that a storyline as rich as that one...would draw in fans if it was promoted right. You have to have a STRONG undercard though and that can be done with this roster. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Mmmmm.......Jennie Finch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 So does Orton become vengeful face that can't get backup or does he form an anti-Evolution force with, say, Benoit and Y2J (anticipating Edge in Evolution)? I think they should have him drop the title, ASAP. Build him up as being really bitter and plotting. A slow build to Wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packwingfn 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 January 20, 2003 - August 16, 2004 Wow I just remembered I was at the show that Evolution formed. It seems so long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 The thing is, HHH wa smiling and giving the thumbs up, I knew instantly as soon as he said You are the man" but now with a serious face...right there even before the thumbs down, I knew what was going to happen, and I couldnt believe it. I can't praise that ending enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 That was the BEST executed Angle I've seen in YEARS. I don't know about you...but I was into it. They really had a good story there with Triple H acting as the mentor... *Thumbs down* Awesome. Godfather like. Dames Now here's a guy who knows how it is, Godfather-style beatings need an increased presence in WWE> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 17, 2004 The best RAW ending since Foley won the title in 98. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 If they are SERIOUS about getting Orton over with the crowd as a heel...this is what they should do. He should LOSE tonight's match to Benoit, giving him the title back. Orton would be CRUSHED since the announcers and wrestlers would call his victory a fluke. Triple H could still be the leader of Evolution, going after the World Title and such. His consolation for Orton is to tell him that regardless of how long his title reign was, it was at SummerSlam and THAT's the match that's remembered, that's the match thats on the video stores, that's the match that goes on the annual highlight reels. Keeping Orton in his place... Orton would then be on a MISSION to win the World Title back...but was actually most concerned with how long his title reign would be. He ends up winning the World Title and holds it til Wrestlemania (making a BIG DEAL about his first title defense, which is an automatic draw with an over champion), where Triple H goes for the shot. Triple H tries to tell him that he doesn't want to hurt him, so Orton should just make it easy on him in their match. Orton is of course appalled and tells him that he doesn't have to listen to him. He won the World Title defeating a man that he couldn't (Benoit), he was the youngest champion, Triple H was how old? They wouldn't come to blows, but eventually Flair brings them together and agrees to a stipulation match. The winner of the match is not only the World Champion, but the leader of Evolution and the loser is kicked out. Dames You NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, make the HEEL the guy chasing the title going into Mania. Mania should be about good triumphing over evil, PERIOD. It's TWO MEGA over guys at that point. People would WANT to see this match with my plan. If you stack up the rest of the card, that would be a great, great match. Evolution is a coolish group and they're getting more cheers than boos, so a stip like that would draw the crowd in. Dames I understand that, Dames and if you were talking about ANY OTHER PPV I'd be like HOT DAMN, DAMES YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. But... it's WrestleMania. Sometimes you got to take a chance. I am CONFIDENT that a storyline as rich as that one...would draw in fans if it was promoted right. You have to have a STRONG undercard though and that can be done with this roster. Dames And HHH would bring his A-game, as I'm sure this whole angle is his idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Nicely executed swerve on Orton from Evolution. Although I still don't care for a long Orton/HHH feud that we're about to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ian. Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Randy Orton's 'fuck' was awesome. Good ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Oh and this NEEDS to be a Classic Thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 17, 2004 The best RAW ending since Foley won the title in 98. Depends. The live crowd saw it in 98. The TV Audience saw it in 99. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 They just shot their load in one night, but we'll see how this turns out. Either way.... that whole beatdown was FUCKING AWESOME~! Horsemen style beatdown, thumbs down, BATISTA~!... I mean the whole damn thing ruled. So what will Orton's theme be now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I was praying Batista would Electric Chair Drop him, but didn't really think it would happen until I saw the thumbs down. So does Orton become vengeful face that can't get backup or does he form an anti-Evolution force with, say, Benoit and Y2J (anticipating Edge in Evolution)? I actually think we'll see a 'Orton feeling sorry for himself, head buried in hands character' for a while. Talking about how he can't believe Evo did that to him. but of course I'm probaly wrong. So yea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 The best RAW ending since Foley won the title in 98. Definitely. It's been the first legitimately important Raw in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 *Thumbs down* Awesome. Godfather like. *Triple H claps for him, gives him thumbs up---turns to thumbs down* Orton (expressionless): "I know what you're doing, Hunter. You broke my heart. You broke my heart." *Orton gets electric chair dropped and goes blank* Ric Flair: "Randy, you're nothing to us now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. We don't want to know you or what you do. We don't want to see you at the hotels, we don't want you near any of our houses. When you see our mother, I want to know a day in advance, so I won't be there. You understand?" Batista: "..Wait, what was that last part?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 ....You know who's booking this angle. I don't care WHAT you say, I don't care WHAT you think of the guy, Triple H deserves credit for putting this angle together. He's got to be booking his own angles at this point and he's always been an NWA fan, admitting that he watches classic matches all the time. Maybe Triple H in control isn't THAT bad... Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I like that when I return to OAORaw, people clamor for classic. Makes me feel good, which hasn't happened muich with CWM always hurting my feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Ladies and gents, it's moments like this which is why I have been, am, and forever will be...a pro wrestling fan. Sit through the shit and eventually, EVENTUALLY, they'll hand out the gold. A classic moment, straight from a classic era, played out on TV to absolute perfection. One of the best turns in history from start to bottom, after a pretty damn good match from Benoit/Orton. Ahhhhhhhhhhh yes. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 So what will Orton's theme be now? "I Ain't Got Nobody (Just A Gigolo)" - David Lee Roth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I was praying Batista would Electric Chair Drop him, but didn't really think it would happen until I saw the thumbs down. So does Orton become vengeful face that can't get backup or does he form an anti-Evolution force with, say, Benoit and Y2J (anticipating Edge in Evolution)? I actually think we'll see a 'Orton feeling sorry for himself, head buried in hands character' for a while. Talking about how he can't believe Evo did that to him. but of course I'm probaly wrong. So yea. It would make sense to do that. It would really give them a chance to make Orton a true main eventer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
