Guest DeathBecomesYou Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Whew, I'm not feeling optimistic here.... What if this incident lead to restriction/ban of most top rope moves? Kinda like when WWE limits the moveset and/or ban the overhead belly-to-belly due to lots of neck injuries on the wrestlers in recent years. I hope I'm wrong here. Anyways, I hope Chavito will be alright. Wouldn't shock me if they did ban moves like the SSP, making the WWE style even more tedious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JebusNassedar Report post Posted August 26, 2004 I think there's a term for this from Fire Pro Wrestling... CRITICAL! In all seriousness, that sucks for Chavo, and Kidman. I think they'll remember that come contract renewal time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 From wrestlingobserver.com Chavo Guerrero was knocked out by Billy Kidman's shooting star press in a Smackdown match taped last night in Fresno. He was out cold for a few minutes. He suffered a concussion and was taken to the hospital and held overnight for observation. He has since been released, but it was a scary situation. Jamie Noble was all shaken up and there were a dozen officials and EMTs in the ring. Both Stephanie McMahon and John Laurinaitis came out and met the stretcher at the curtain area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Ban the move. No questions asked. And while the WWE is at ban Flair from ever wrsetling again. Something seriously bad is going to happen to him or his opponent one of these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted August 26, 2004 They should ban the move from Kidman. I bet if London did it, the move would injure as much poeple as any other move from the Top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Well, if you think about it, it is a dangerous move to the person doing it. Kidman's hurt himself a number of times with it, and has now hurt someone else. Brock nearly killed himself with it at WM XIX. Not in WWE, but Jericho in SMW broke his collarbone attempting the move. Maybe it'd be best for hte move just to banned altogether. London doesn't need the move, because his 450's pretty sweet. The only person it'd be bad for is Kidman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 I remember D'Lo Brown losing his two front teeth when he tryed the move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 With Jericho and Brock though, we had factors mixed in with their doing the move that led to them screwing it up. After they screwed it up, they never attempted the move again. With Kidman, he's fucked it up time after time after time. It's plain out obvious to me that the move just is not for him anymore, and hasn't been for a very long time. The right guy can do the move with just as much risk as most other high flying moves. It's just, some moves just aren't right for some wrestlers. The SSP is no longer right for Kidman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 They could very well ban the SSP. Brock got hurt with it, Kidman's been hurt plenty of times with it, and a variation of it seriously hurt Hayabusa (before the Asai Moonsault, that is). There's plenty of safer top rope moves, and if Kidman can't do another move from the top rope he can get a new ground finisher. Give him the X-Factor, even, it's not like Pac's coming back soon... (I hope not, at least.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Kidman should use the Guillotine Legdrop... I'm sure that he couldn't hurt anyone with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Kidman should use the Guillotine Legdrop... I'm sure that he couldn't hurt anyone with that Collapsed trachea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Kidman should use the Guillotine Legdrop... I'm sure that he couldn't hurt anyone with that Collapsed trachea? Yeah. Kidman might hit his neck on the top rope on the way down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrokenTiger 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 How 'bout Double Axe Handle from the top? Top rope fist Drop? These are the safest (lamest, too) top rope moves I can think of. Or just use the flying crossbody, making Kidman fell into negative zone of genericism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest syncer55 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Kidman has always been sloppy with it, yep leave it for the more capable wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Him and London could do the Rocker Dropper or whatever it was called Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Let London do the S.S.P. and have Kidman do the 450, the guy is lucky that Torrie is his wife or WWE would've fired his worthless ass right after the Invasion angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted August 26, 2004 It seems to me that since Kidman has bulked up a bit, his flying has suffered. Not his fault, the WWE probably got on his case about it. At this point, I want to see a simple move get the rub of being an effective finish. Make Kidman's move be a DDT that he just snaps off. It'd make for a great sequence with, say, London's 450 or whatever and give him an awesome move he can do to anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Nobody's mentioned the perfect new finisher: F5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Nobody's mentioned the perfect new finisher: F5. That'd be funny actually, since Kidman bitched that Brock used his move. Anyways, I think the F5 is a 'big man' move in the minds of WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 I still like Brock, and would welcome him back w/ open arms, but yeah, that'd get a chuckle out of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 The BK Bomb or the Kid Krusher or whatever it's called doesn't look too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 The BK Bomb is the single most annoying move name in the WWE right now. That CANNOT be his finisher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Ban the SSP and let Kidman bring back the pile driver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Just give him the Houstin (sp?) Hangover. Booker T hasnt used it since Wrestlemania XIX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2004 Probably cause he looked like he banged his knee up using it at Mania XIX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 I thought that was him selling the indian deathlock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Just give him the Houstin (sp?) Hangover. Booker T hasnt used it since Wrestlemania XIX Didn't he crush Triple H's head with that move? Kidman= Big Boot and Legdrop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Basswitch Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Kidman sucks at that move so i hope they do ban him from doing it. Guys like London do great ones, Kidmans is lopsided, and dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Anyway, I like Kidman's SSP also. It's at least a different take on it. It would do a world of good if it weren't performed so tightly in the corner, which is where a lot of the problems with it comes from. That's the major problem. He gives himself no room to do it properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
