Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Cheney's Plane Avoids Collision WASHINGTON (AP) - A military plane carrying Vice President Dick Cheney came within almost half a mile of a small private plane over Bridgeport, Conn., this month, forcing the pilot to take evasive action, the Federal Aviation Administration said Friday. The plane, which is Air Force II when the vice president is aboard, was flying at about 7,500 feet Aug. 7 while en route to Westchester County Airport in White Plains, N.Y., when an on-board alert system alarmed, telling the pilot to climb to avoid colliding with the other plane. The FAA said such an event ordinarily wouldn't require an investigation, but a report was written and sent to the Air Force because it involved the vice president. FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under visual flight rules. That means pilots should avoid another flight if they see it, which is what the Air Force pilot did, she said. ``The Air Force II pilot was given a traffic advisory saying where the general aviation aircraft was,'' Salac said. ``Controllers were tracking the aircraft on their radar scopes.'' Dean Iacopelli, president of the New York air traffic controller's union, blamed inadequate staffing for the problem, which he said happens about once a week in New York. Iacopelli, a controller, said a supervisor was working the radar scopes while on overtime to augment the staff. Supervisors are required to work aircraft for only eight hours a month, while controllers work 40. ``He's not as proficient on it as someone who does it everyday,'' Iacopelli said. ``We need more air traffic controllers.'' The National Air Traffic Controllers Association has been campaigning for the FAA to hire more controllers as a wave of retirements is expected to hit the agency in the next few years. Salac said the FAA makes no connection between staffing levels at the New York air traffic control center and the event. Fuck. They missed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest INXS Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Heh. They have an Air Force II plane? Only in America.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Heh. They have an Air Force II plane? Only in America.. Any plane carrying the President always has the call-sign "Air Force I", whether it's a Cessna or a 747. Same goes with the VP, only it's "Air Force II". Of course, I'm sure you already knew that... right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Sequels are never as good as the original. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Sequels are never as good as the original. What about Spiderman II, The Empire Strikes Back, The Bourne Supremacy, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Heh. They have an Air Force II plane? Only in America.. Any plane carrying the President always has the call-sign "Air Force I", whether it's a Cessna or a 747. Same goes with the VP, only it's "Air Force II". Of course, I'm sure you already knew that... right? Only in America... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Cheney's Plane Avoids Collision WASHINGTON (AP) - A military plane carrying Vice President Dick Cheney came within almost half a mile of a small private plane over Bridgeport, Conn., this month, forcing the pilot to take evasive action, the Federal Aviation Administration said Friday. The plane, which is Air Force II when the vice president is aboard, was flying at about 7,500 feet Aug. 7 while en route to Westchester County Airport in White Plains, N.Y., when an on-board alert system alarmed, telling the pilot to climb to avoid colliding with the other plane. The FAA said such an event ordinarily wouldn't require an investigation, but a report was written and sent to the Air Force because it involved the vice president. FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under visual flight rules. That means pilots should avoid another flight if they see it, which is what the Air Force pilot did, she said. ``The Air Force II pilot was given a traffic advisory saying where the general aviation aircraft was,'' Salac said. ``Controllers were tracking the aircraft on their radar scopes.'' Dean Iacopelli, president of the New York air traffic controller's union, blamed inadequate staffing for the problem, which he said happens about once a week in New York. Iacopelli, a controller, said a supervisor was working the radar scopes while on overtime to augment the staff. Supervisors are required to work aircraft for only eight hours a month, while controllers work 40. ``He's not as proficient on it as someone who does it everyday,'' Iacopelli said. ``We need more air traffic controllers.'' The National Air Traffic Controllers Association has been campaigning for the FAA to hire more controllers as a wave of retirements is expected to hit the agency in the next few years. Salac said the FAA makes no connection between staffing levels at the New York air traffic control center and the event. Fuck. They missed. Isn't that appropriate...oh you were just kidding, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Air Force II: Electric Boogaloo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Air Force II: Electric Boogaloo? Ok, I'm probably admitting to being very pop culturely ignorant, but where did the joke of adding "Electric Boogaloo" to a sequel start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 This is being reported as a near-miss, but I view it as a near-hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Cheney's Plane Avoids Collision WASHINGTON (AP) - A military plane carrying Vice President Dick Cheney came within almost half a mile of a small private plane over Bridgeport, Conn., this month, forcing the pilot to take evasive action, the Federal Aviation Administration said Friday. The plane, which is Air Force II when the vice president is aboard, was flying at about 7,500 feet Aug. 7 while en route to Westchester County Airport in White Plains, N.Y., when an on-board alert system alarmed, telling the pilot to climb to avoid colliding with the other plane. The FAA said such an event ordinarily wouldn't require an investigation, but a report was written and sent to the Air Force because it involved the vice president. FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under visual flight rules. That means pilots should avoid another flight if they see it, which is what the Air Force pilot did, she said. ``The Air Force II pilot was given a traffic advisory saying where the general aviation aircraft was,'' Salac said. ``Controllers were tracking the aircraft on their radar scopes.'' Dean Iacopelli, president of the New York air traffic controller's union, blamed inadequate staffing for the problem, which he said happens about once a week in New York. Iacopelli, a controller, said a supervisor was working the radar scopes while on overtime to augment the staff. Supervisors are required to work aircraft for only eight hours a month, while controllers work 40. ``He's not as proficient on it as someone who does it everyday,'' Iacopelli said. ``We need more air traffic controllers.'' The National Air Traffic Controllers Association has been campaigning for the FAA to hire more controllers as a wave of retirements is expected to hit the agency in the next few years. Salac said the FAA makes no connection between staffing levels at the New York air traffic control center and the event. Fuck. They missed. Isn't that appropriate...oh you were just kidding, right? Classy - wishing death on someone who's views they personally disagree with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Air Force II: Electric Boogaloo? Ok, I'm probably admitting to being very pop culturely ignorant, but where did the joke of adding "Electric Boogaloo" to a sequel start? MST3K, more than likely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Cheney's Plane Avoids Collision WASHINGTON (AP) - A military plane carrying Vice President Dick Cheney came within almost half a mile of a small private plane over Bridgeport, Conn., this month, forcing the pilot to take evasive action, the Federal Aviation Administration said Friday. The plane, which is Air Force II when the vice president is aboard, was flying at about 7,500 feet Aug. 7 while en route to Westchester County Airport in White Plains, N.Y., when an on-board alert system alarmed, telling the pilot to climb to avoid colliding with the other plane. The FAA said such an event ordinarily wouldn't require an investigation, but a report was written and sent to the Air Force because it involved the vice president. FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under visual flight rules. That means pilots should avoid another flight if they see it, which is what the Air Force pilot did, she said. ``The Air Force II pilot was given a traffic advisory saying where the general aviation aircraft was,'' Salac said. ``Controllers were tracking the aircraft on their radar scopes.'' Dean Iacopelli, president of the New York air traffic controller's union, blamed inadequate staffing for the problem, which he said happens about once a week in New York. Iacopelli, a controller, said a supervisor was working the radar scopes while on overtime to augment the staff. Supervisors are required to work aircraft for only eight hours a month, while controllers work 40. ``He's not as proficient on it as someone who does it everyday,'' Iacopelli said. ``We need more air traffic controllers.'' The National Air Traffic Controllers Association has been campaigning for the FAA to hire more controllers as a wave of retirements is expected to hit the agency in the next few years. Salac said the FAA makes no connection between staffing levels at the New York air traffic control center and the event. Fuck. They missed. Gee, and I thought political discourse had too much personal hatred for the opposition. Can't think of why I'd think that. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Air Force II: Electric Boogaloo? Ok, I'm probably admitting to being very pop culturely ignorant, but where did the joke of adding "Electric Boogaloo" to a sequel start? Go rent Breakin' and then Breakin' 2. You'll get the reference and also come away with a lifelong appreciation for recreation centers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Well, if the same reply had been said about AF-1 then he'd be being paid a visit by the Secret Service right about now..... But no one gives a shit about the Vice President Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Air Force II: Electric Boogaloo? Ok, I'm probably admitting to being very pop culturely ignorant, but where did the joke of adding "Electric Boogaloo" to a sequel start? Go rent Breakin' and then Breakin' 2. You'll get the reference and also come away with a lifelong appreciation for recreation centers. Thank you for feeling old for me. I was about to go pour a drink. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2004 Classy - wishing death on someone who's views they personally disagree with. Get your panties out of a bunch -- I wish death upon people all the time. Too bad it doesn't work as good as I hoped... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites