Weird WCW booking

[JoeDirt 0]

I was looking at some old stuff on DDTDigest.com and realized how horrible the WCW booking was at time. For instance, the night after Fall Brawl 1998, a show known as just being HORRIBLE, WCW has Goldberg vs. Sting for the WCW title. Now why the hell wouldn't you have a big match like that on an actual PAY PER VIEW with some buildup to it?

 

Also before Souled Out 1998, on the very last Nitro before the pay per view, Hogan faces the Giant, which is notable becase Hogan actually jobs. Now why the hell wouldn't you save that for a pay per view? Why would guys like Hogan wrestle on only every other pay per view? It just seems so weird. Was it just a case of the inmates running the asylum and there being no organization at all?

[Australian Pride 0]

If everyone listed just one piece of weird WCW booking, this thread would run for 20 pages. Afterall, this is the same company that had both Vince Russo and David Arquette as World Champs, and the same one that gave away Hogan/Goldberg for the World title on Nitro with little to no advertising. Hogan/Goldberg was because of the Monday Night War, and i would imagine the ones you listed would have been done becasue of that as well.

[deancoles 0]

WCW has Goldberg vs. Sting for the WCW title. Now why the hell wouldn't you have a big match like that on an actual PAY PER VIEW with some buildup to it?

They did the same with Goldberg vs. Giant as well.

[JHawk 0]

How about Madusa vs. Oklahoma for the Cruiserweight Title?

 

Or the pinata on a pole match?

 

Or Psicosis defending (and losing) the Cruiserweight Title without ever explaining how Lenny Lane "lost" the title?

[Guest MikeSC]

I thought Tank Abbott's "bad-ass" streak ending with a job to Arquette was a nice touch.

-=Mike

[Chazz 0]

WCW has Goldberg vs. Sting for the WCW title. Now why the hell wouldn't you have a big match like that on an actual PAY PER VIEW with some buildup to it?

They did the same with Goldberg vs. Giant as well.

Who can forget The Colossal mistake of putting Goldberg vs Hogan on Nitro.

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

Didn't Juvi job the cruiser belt to a tequila bottle? My WCW knowledge has never been up to scratch.

[DCMaximo 0]

I think, in another excellent piece of WCW booking, he won the IWGP Jr Heavyweight title from Liger, who was making a flying visit to WCW, with the tequila bottle. Sadly, Juvi got injured, so on the next show, Liger won the title back from Psychosis, after which La Parka beat up Pstchosis with a chair.

 

And for some reason, I still miss WCW...

[Guest Astro]

Was the Hogan/Giant match the "Robin Hood" incident?

[Guest bigm350]

As was already stated, I'm pretty sure that Goldberg-Hogan and Goldberg-Sting were on free TV for ratings. Bischoff was obsessed with beating Vince in the ratings and he would give away PPV caliber matches on free TV just for said ratings.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Was the Hogan/Giant match the "Robin Hood" incident?

I believe so. That show was fucking terrible too.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Hogan also didn't want to be on the Souled Out PPV. He and DDP both politicked their way out of it because they thought it would bomb and they could blame it on the headliners: Bret Hart and Ric Flair. I believe the show did a very good 1.37 buyrate, and the move backfired.

[Slickster 0]

I had wondered why they weren't at Souled Out 98...

[razazteca 0]

Exactly how many stuff on a pole matches did WCW have? I remember Carson Silver Dollar (it was coins in a Homey da Clown sock match) and Viagra on a pole match.

[deancoles 0]

Exactly how many stuff on a pole matches did WCW have?  I remember Carson Silver Dollar (it was coins in a Homey da Clown sock match) and Viagra on a pole match.

Off the top of my head

 

Pinata on a pole(about 8 luchadores in 1 match)

Champagne on a Pole(Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Chris Kanyon)

Pipe On A Pole(Scott Steiner vs. Sting)

Judy Bagwell on a pole(Kanyon vs. Buff bagwell)

Baseball bat on a pole(Spring Stampede 98)

First Blood Chain On A Pole(Shane Douglas won the US Title in it)

Chair on a pole(crowbar vs. Meng on a nitro once)

Crowbar on a pole(Starrcade 99)

leather jacket on a pole(Tank Abbott was in it)

Stickball Bat On A Pole

key on a pole(during the Filthy Animals vs. Revolution feud when Torrie was locked in a cage by Shane Douglas and Asya)

 

Also on some house shows in 2000 they had Guitar on a pole matches which involved Jeff Jarrett against Dustin Rhodes.

 

Edit: The WWF had a Doggy Bag on a pole and Pepper on a pole matches

Edited September 9, 2004 by deancoles411

[Guest Kaspar Kucera]

They also had Judy Bagwell on a pole match, along with Sting-Steiner pipe on a pole match. It was actually funny since the Sting- Steiner match was near the time of the Judy match, the Viagra match, and I believe another pole match, so they were talking about at least three pole matches throughout the episode. Bizarre stuff.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

Who can forget The Colossal mistake of putting Goldberg vs Hogan on Nitro.

Especially the week before a PPV.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Was the Hogan/Giant match the "Robin Hood" incident?

I believe so. That show was fucking terrible too.

IIRC, the match was about five minutes in length, but the bit segments were spread out throughout 45 minutes worth of Robin Hood, making it seem like the match was going on that whole time. Who in the hell would want to sit for a near-hour of Hogan/Giant!?

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

three words

 

Sting and Robocop

[Slayer 0]

How bad was WCW in the last two years of it's existence?

 

So bad that I don't remember anything of it, and I even went to two Nitros in those final years...

[Zack Malibu 0]

I've gotta say, for all the shit they had, I still found enjoyment in WCW. For every "______ on a pole match" they had some good things going (Three Count/Shane Helms "Vertebreaker" push, Jung Dragons, Natural Born Thrillers, Lance Storm's Team Canada, etc.)

[caboose 0]

Starrcade 97:

Sting wins title clean and properly from Hogan. Subsequently he goes on to strong title defenses against Nash, Hall, Giant, Hogan rematch and Bret Hart for the next year.

Goldberg is truly getting into his streak.

 

Mid '98:

Goldberg had held the US Title a few months and beats Hogan in a big match on PPV.

Sting on the other hand has just toppled Giant in their showdown.

 

Autumn/Fall:

Goldberg looks a good bet for a title shot and faces the Giant for the US title on PPV. Goldberg JackHammers the Giant for the first time on PPV for the US Title with a fake rib injury to boot.

Sting overcomes Bret Hart in a close series of matches.

 

Starrcade 98:

Sting is the year long champion, victor over the nWo and Mr WCW.

Goldberg is undefeated and not showing any sgns of slowing up.

 

The irresistable force versus the immovable object...

 

Goldberg wins and goes on to defend against Nash, Bret, Savage, Giant, Lex, Scott Steiner, Booker T and so forth.

 

Sting descends into madness and over the course of six months turns heel.

 

WCW doesn't die in 2001.

[Gary Floyd 0]

In it's last year, WCW was moslty a fetid shithole of suck, IMO

 

The whole "Pinata on a Pole" match sparked of racism. Sure, I know stereotypes in wrestling are commonplace, but this was just fucking retarded, and proved just how big an asshole Russo and Ferra really were. I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised if any of the luchadors involved have had their career ruined by that.

 

However, I did enjoy "Tank Abbot as a groupie for 3-Count", especially the song "Nothing but a Tank Thing".

[DCMaximo 0]

"Nothing But A Tank Thing" was great stuff. Just the image of 3 Count dancing in the background, while Tank sings about pulling out someone's spleen was gold!

[deancoles 0]

Was the Hogan/Giant match the "Robin Hood" incident?

I believe so. That show was fucking terrible too.

IIRC, the match was about five minutes in length, but the bit segments were spread out throughout 45 minutes worth of Robin Hood, making it seem like the match was going on that whole time. Who in the hell would want to sit for a near-hour of Hogan/Giant!?

Wasn't it the first match that Hogan had on Nitro since he turned heel?

 

In the UK I think we just got the match without the movie BS.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The match where Hogan jobbed to The Giant that you're talking about wasn't the infamous 'Robin Hood' match. That one actually ended in some sort of screwjob. The match where Hogan jobbed to The Giant took place around March of 1998, and it featured a run-in by Randy Savage, which allowed Giant to hit the chokeslam and get the win. As for why it happened on TV with no build-up, think about that one for a minute.

[deancoles 0]

Actually it was on the Nitro before Souled out and from reading the DDT Digest report it was up against DX on Raw with their Barbecue segment(making fun of Undertaker getting "Burned" and HBK sticking a Salami in his pants)

 

Edit: Giant was "injured" until Uncensored and the next few weeks of Nitro he Chokeslammed Eric Bischoff and threw Scott Hall in the pool at the Spring Break Nitro.

Edited September 10, 2004 by deancoles411

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Somewhat combining this and the Kevin Nash thread, I remember an angle during the Giant-Nash feud where Giant came out and powerbombed Nash. While it made sense in that it gave Giant a bit of a boost, I remember Nash being unhappy about it, and wanting to get it nixed, but Hogan insisted that it happen.

[King Kamala 0]

I thought Tank Abbott's "bad-ass" streak ending with a job to Arquette was a nice touch.

-=Mike

I shudder thinking about the Nitro main-evented by Tank Abbott Vs Sid for the WCW World title belt. I remember they hyped the crap out of it for a Nitro main event. Horrible, horrible match (I think Sid won with a craptastic Crippler Crossface, a wink wink to Chris Benoit's then recent departure of WCW, I believe.)

[Guest MikeSC]

I thought Tank Abbott's "bad-ass" streak ending with a job to Arquette was a nice touch.

        -=Mike

I shudder thinking about the Nitro main-evented by Tank Abbott Vs Sid for the WCW World title belt. I remember they hyped the crap out of it for a Nitro main event. Horrible, horrible match (I think Sid won with a craptastic Crippler Crossface, a wink wink to Chris Benoit's then recent departure of WCW, I believe.)

They had Sid botch that spot A LOT after Benoit departed.

 

Hell, didn't GB make his return, basically unannounced, during the Arquette/Abbott match?

-=Mike