The Official Maven Sucks Thread

[razazteca 0]

Many are worse than Maven

 

Tyson Tomko

The Undertaker

Orlando Jordan

Danny Basham

Hardcore Holly

Batista

Kenzo Suzuki

 

 

 

I could go on.

So you don't like heels....

[AndrewTS 0]

Maven doesn't deserve an "Official Maven Sucks Thread." Why bother? You never see the guy.

 

I haven't seen a Maven match in probably a year +, so no comment on his current work.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Batista is about 20x better than Maven at this point. He's made huge strides as a wrestler and I'd say he's improved even more than Orton has. They should let the guy actually cut some promos.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Pre-injury, Chris Nowinski > Maven ... and it wasn't even close. He was everybit as good in the ring, and much better on the mic.

[Guest bigm350]

Batista is about 20x better than Maven at this point. He's made huge strides as a wrestler and I'd say he's improved even more than Orton has. They should let the guy actually cut some promos.

I thought Batista did a great job on the mic when they actually let him talk a little when he was feuding with HBK(?) Creative should definitely let him talk more.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

^ The "I think you're a God DAMN coward!" promo on Austin was awesome.

[razazteca 0]

Maven was a charity case and that's it. He should of never of won the contest to begin with.

[Guest bigm350]

^ The "I think you're a God DAMN coward!" promo on Austin was awesome.

Yeah, it was Austin, not HBK. You're right Deon that was an awesome promo. Better than any promo Orton's done.

[Guest Trivia247]

I think it was pointless to start giving these guys and girls different ring names when we saw them screwing up for months on Tough enough. Linda Miles suddenly Shanequa. What can't even acknowledge their past on your own WWE sponsored show?

 

"Bah Gawd where did that Amazon Come from?"

 

"Cole Why are you sounding like JR?"

[Guest Rrrsh]

Tyson Tomko

Yes, they both have a tendency to fuck up their routine finishers, but at least Tomko has the decency to keep his mouth shut. Maven is obnoxious. Therefore, Tomko > Maven.

 

The Undertaker

This is so laughable that I almost want to ignore it...but I can't. Taker is a legend, Maven is NOTHING. Could Maven have had a ***** Hell in the Cell match with HBK? Or any of the other classics that Taker has been involved in? I think not. You're comparing a guy that many of the all-time greats have called their best professional experience with a green, piss-poor amateur?

 

Orlando Jordan

Jordan is a better worker than Maven. Period.

 

Danny Basham

Boring, but also a better worker than Maven. He doesn't fuck up.

 

Hardcore Holly

Better worker than Maven. And "The Big Shot" gimmick was funnier than anything Maven has ever done in his worthless life.

 

Batista

The fuck? Batista has been involved in some great tags on RAW recently. Matches that Maven couldn't be carried to in a million years, because he's the absolute worst. Why is he worse than Maven, because he's a hoss?

 

Kenzo Suzuki

You amaze me. With the exception of Tomko, no one you listed is even close to being as bad as Maven. Weren't you the same guy who went on the big "Austin sucks" rant, no-selling Ray's counter arguments and refusing to explain yourself?

Taker and Holly are there for their work as of right now. The rest are OVW guys that are very boring and Maven is only sometimes boring. And if he got the oppertunties to work with the guys that Batista and Tomko get, he would shows how better he is. Maven has that charisma that pretty much no one I mentions has.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Pre-injury, Chris Nowinski > Maven ... and it wasn't even close. He was everybit as good in the ring, and much better on the mic.

I would agree. I very much liked Nowinski. I wouldnt say that it wasnt clsoe, but Chris>Maven

[Guest SteveyP93]

Maven can't work at all. A hybrid of Ric Flair circa 1985, Shawn Michaels circa 1996, Bret Hart circa whenever and Mr. Perfect circa 1990-1991 couldn't carry him to ***.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Maven is average, but has a look and a presence that makes him better than some.

[AndrewTS 0]

Maven is average, but has a look and a presence that makes him better than some.

By "some" you mean Spike Dudley and Shannon Moore, right?

[Vyce 0]

Whoa whoa - did someone actually advocate for Tomko being better than Maven? Like hell he is. Tomko is probably the worst worker they have on the roster, outside of possibly Heidenreich.

 

Josh Matthews? Who lost Tough Enough 1 and wound up being Velocity announcer? HE's better than Tomko in the ring.

 

And if the reasoning falls down to Tomko being better because he's not booked to talk - why then, I'd just have to laugh.

[muzz 0]

Maven can't work at all. A hybrid of Ric Flair circa 1985, Shawn Michaels circa 1996, Bret Hart circa whenever and Mr. Perfect circa 1990-1991 couldn't carry him to ***.

I don't remember him ever having the chance to, or the proper training. Or experience.

 

Totally awesome thread.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Maven has that charisma that pretty much no one I mentions has.

Wait, Maven has more charisma than Taker or Batista?

 

You're joking, right?

[Guest SteveyP93]

The scary thing is, he ISN'T joking.

[SamoaRowe 0]

C'mon, Maven is harmless. He isn't being pushed and hardly gets significant wins, so no harm done. It's not like he's beating Jericho like Tomko is, or winning a tag title like Kenzo Suzuki did .

[SuperJerk 0]

Maven doesn't deserve an "Official Maven Sucks Thread."

But you gotta admit, it makes more sense than Triple H getting an "Official Maven Sucks Thread."

[Shooting Star 0]

I don't think of Maven as a great worker but he is more entertaining in the ring than some of the others on the roster. If he had been given proper training he might have been a great worker but at least he has been showing some improvement hell not everyone starts out as a ***** worker, maybe in a few years he could be IC Title material.

[Guest SteveyP93]

But he's not even a 1/2* worker.

 

He got his boots from HHH, let's stone him.

[Guest Corino 1000]

Whats all the hate for Maven for? As someone said he does no harm. He dosen't win many of his matches so why are we complaining?SteveyP93 why don't you stop complaning about Maven because he's not doing shit. Or do people on these boards always have f**king complain? Tomko on the other hand is getting pushed and we complain about low carders?

[Shooting Star 0]

Why do you hate him so much?he hasn't done anything terrible or gets pushed to the stars above others who deserve it more than him and gets undeserved title shots i mean sure he got the hardcore title but who didn't?

[Guest SteveyP93]

 

 

Because he's a hack, a charity case, and all-around obnoxious, and he needs to get the hell out of my sport.

 

I'm not going over this again, because I've already spelled it out for you about 10x.

[Guest Rrrsh]

How is Batista yelling or Undertaker being dead having more charisma than Maven?

[CanadianChick 0]

I'm assuming you meant "or" instead of "of" in that sentence.

 

And the crowd cares about Undertaker. Usually when the crowd cares, it's a safe assumption that the wrestler has charisma. Same thing with Batista I guess, to a much lesser extent.

 

On the other hand, I think Maven also has charisma, but has hardly been able to show it.

 

And I always thought that little Maven tirade on his site was a joke, since he mentioned something like him coming back as Kamala...

[Guest SteveyP93]

Undertaker is one of the greatest characters in the history of sports entertainment. Who is Maven? Nobody.

 

Batista is still a little lacking in charisma (but gaining more confidence all the time)...but you can't fuck with the Taker.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Undertaker is a nostagic charicter. Thats why people care. That and he is always mentioned so people remember him. When Maven comes out, lots of marks dont care cuz he is a jobber.

[Guest SteveyP93]

Undertaker is a nostagic charicter. Thats why people care. That and he is always mentioned so people remember him.

 

He has a huge, rabid fan following. The fans don't just "remember" the character...they love it.

 

All Maven is EVER going to be is a jobber, because he doesn't have the charisma to pull off a character like Taker's. Much less evolve and develop one and make the fans care about it.

 

That and he is always mentioned so people remember him.

 

I just had to go back to this. That's seriously one of the most non-sensical statements I've ever read in my entire life. Wrestlers are over because the fans REMEMBER them? Are wrestling fans frenetic amnesics or something?

 

Is your name Eugene by any chance?