iliketurtles Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 With the Ministry back in action, dark days are here again by Anthony Cali Spokane, Washington - Five years ago, a very different Undertaker was the sinister leader of the Ministry — a group of mind-controlled, social and political misfits. As 1999 came to a close, however, Undertaker disbanded his group and shortly thereafter many of its members disappeared from WWE. This week on SmackDown!, two of Taker’s most evil henchmen returned. Unlike their last stints, these two dark warriors were out for revenge. These days, it would seem as though the Deadman’s powers over Gangrel and Viscera have worn off and a new power has taken over their minds — the power of JBL. ADVERTISEMENT Aside from JBL’s financial backing, it is also likely that both Gangrel and Viscera hold grudges against their former charge for not helping them keep their positions. Since being released by the company, both Superstars have continued their respective careers, but neither one has attained the level of stardom and notoriety accomplished while in WWE. “I’ve still been wrestling,” Gangrel said while drinking from a large goblet backstage in Spokane Arena. “Since my neck injury — I was out two years — I disappeared from here, and I’ve been wrestling in England, Ireland and Germany. In fact, I’m supposed to be in Ireland right now, but I cancelled those plans to show up here tonight. But JBL’s money talks.’’ “I’ve been wrestling at military bases overseas, and in the states,” Viscera said minutes after attacking the Phenom. “Just entertaining the troops and their families, and trying to stay as busy as possible. It feels good, and it’s real rewarding, but what’s funny is that a lot of people are always screaming about the Ministry, and how they wanted us to come back, so I’m real happy to see it’s finally happened.” Following their brutal attack, which left Taker lying flat in the center of the ring, SmackDown! General Manager Theodore R. Long made a match for next week, pitting Gangrel and Viscera against Undertaker in a handicap match. After that match, the two Superstars are unsure of their immediate future. “I don’t know if it’s short-term or long-term,” Gangrel said, “but it feels good. All the excitement, the energy, and getting to see old friends and stuff feels great. I only hope that we stick around long enough to get rid of Undertaker.” “It really does feel great [to be back],” the former King of the Ring Viscera said. “It’s a long time coming, and I’m ecstatic. I think that this time, we’ll stick around for a while.” Thank God.
Steviekick Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I can't believe they acknowledged his KoR reign.
iliketurtles Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Posted September 19, 2004 I can't believe he actually spoke too Anthony Cali. Vis already graced us with his apperance on Thursday, and now he's doing interviews to us little people? God. Among. Vises.
Steviekick Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I will admit that I was very impressed when he hit the Undertaker with the Lo Down/Derailer.
Guest Cataclysm911 Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Does this mean that WWE has to pay royalties to White Wolf again to use the Gangrel name & character?
Guest Anglesault Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 A nice subtle touch. Vis is wearing his Ministry vest, and not his Big Vis trash bag.
Guest Anglesault Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 (edited) I will admit that I was very impressed when he hit the Undertaker with the Lo Down Oh, crap, that was supposed to be the Sky High? I felt alot better with him before you said that. Edited September 19, 2004 by Anglesault
Exslade ZX Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Actually I don't believe it was. It was a double handed chokeslam, More of an 'Albert Bomb'. It was pretty decent, but he just couldn't get up after it for a few moments.
Rob E Dangerously Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 will they run a clip package of Vis laying out the Undertaker in 1995?
Placebo Effect Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Holy shit. "Drinking from a large goblet." Hahahah. Nice touch.
Ravenbomb Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 have they mentioned that Bradshaw was in the ministry, too, yet?
Guest Big Daddy V1 Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I will admit that I was very impressed when he hit the Undertaker with the Lo Down/Derailer. At least it wasn't horribly botched. And yes a two handed chokeslam is a sky high/derailer/albert bomb
The Amazing Rando Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 The DeRailer was the Canadian Backbreaker that Albert used where he would lift the guy up and then drop to his knees, causing the opponent's back to jar against his shoulder.
Golgo 13 Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 No, not really. The opponent ends up the same, but the set-up is different. True, in the Derailer (or Train Wreck, whatever Train calls it)/Baldo Bomb, the guy is lifted up by their neck. But in a Rydeen/Sky High/BK Bomb, he's lifted up via waistlock or by the underarms.
Fökai Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I will admit that I was very impressed when he hit the Undertaker with the Lo Down/Derailer. D'Lo's frog splash = The Lo Down. Albert's Canadian backbreaker = Derailer. D'Lo's two-handed slam = Sky High. Albert's two handed chokeslam = Baldo Bomb, Train Wreck
clean rob Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I will admit that I was very impressed when he hit the Undertaker with the Lo Down/Derailer. D'Lo's frog splash = The Lo Down. Albert's Canadian backbreaker = Derailer. D'Lo's two-handed slam = Sky High. Albert's two handed chokeslam = Baldo Bomb, Train Wreck You've got A-Train's moves the wrong way round. The Derailer = Baldo Bomb, Train Wreck = Canadian Backbreaker.
Slayer Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I don't even think the WWE remembers which move is which
clean rob Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 I miss A-Train/Albert. I always thought he was a pretty good big man with a nifty moveset. And his shouting always made me laugh.
The Czech Republic Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 WHO CARES? IT'S FUCKING ALBERT!
Guest Anglesault Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 No, the Derailer is the backbreaker.
clean rob Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 No it isn't. The Derailer is DEFINITELY the same as the Baldo Bomb. Definitely definitely.
Guest Anglesault Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 No it isn't. The Derailer is DEFINITELY the same as the Baldo Bomb. Definitely definitely. I'm pretty damn sure the Baldo Bomb is the train wreck. Or was in the beginning. Because after they started calling the backbreaker the "Derailer" Several people (somewhat sarcastically) said something to the effect of "Do you think they can get away with calling the Baldo Bomb the Train Wreck without the jokes flooding in?"
Lil' Bitch Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 @ the arguement of A-Train's move set
clean rob Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 It was probably just Cole messing up. Every A-Train match I've seen has the Baldo Bomb referred to as the Derailer, and the backbreaker referred to as the Train Wreck. It's possible, I suppose, that the names were reversed at the very start of the gimmick and I missed the matches...but Cole messing up is the safe bet.
iliketurtles Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Posted September 19, 2004 will they run a clip package of Vis laying out the Undertaker in 1995? Good idea, but they might as well just go all out and give him a 3 minute Desire piece.
iliketurtles Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Posted September 19, 2004 Vis is wearing his Ministry vest, and not his Big Vis trash bag. As much as I hate people who are mean to Vis, I will admit I laughed my fucking ass off. Trenchcoat = TRASH BAG.
Lil' Bitch Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Undertaker and Mabel can relive their feud from IYH 5.
Steviekick Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Vis is wearing his Ministry vest, and not his Big Vis trash bag. As much as I hate people who are mean to Vis, I will admit I laughed my fucking ass off. Trenchcoat = TRASH BAG. The trenchcoat he was wearing was propably too small for him.
Guest Trivia247 Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Fricken Baseball took out Smackdown adn I wasn't able to see the repeat later, but I did see the Clip of Viscera and Gangrel's run in on the Undertaker via WWE.com. It seems to me that Viscera's either Total Penetration or Rydeen bomb (If he got his hands on his throat or on his shoulders) Was actually pretty decent for a guy his size. I don't mind giving these two a second (or in Vis's case a 3rd) Chance. As long as they are useful. (understand that most here see no use to them period heh)
evilhomer Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 I don't even think the WWE remembers which move is which That's the entire problem with this argument. Whether it was Cole screwing up or WWE changing the names, they were changed on a weekly basis. I remember calling Cole a dumbass so many times when the name was different from the week before. Why I noticed, or for that matter, cared, I cannot say. But I do know for sure that the names kept getting flip flopped around. I think that Albert's finisher was always supposed to be called the Derailer, regardless of which move he was using. There's some WWE logic for ya.
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