Impact! spoilers

[AmazingRen 0]

TNA Impact tapings

September 21, 2004

Orlando, Fla. at Universal Studios

Report by Danney Robertson, PWTorch.com correspondent

 

Tonight's show was pretty good. Some fun and entertaining matches. But having said that, this was not the way to go seeing as they no longer have a weekly PPV. They did nothing out of the ordinary other than the Jarrett-Monty Brown promo.

 

DARK MATCH

 

(1) The Naturals beat The Steele Brother. Pretty good opening match that saw the Naturals get the win with The Natural Disaster. Crowd was not into the match at all.

 

IMPACT TAPINGS

 

Show started with Larry Zbyszko coming out being followed by the TNA Tag Team Champions Chris Harris and Primetime who were in turn followed by their tag team partners. They wanted to know what Zbyszko was going to do about their current situation. He said that later there would be a tag team championship match between the current champions and their old partners.

 

(1) Petey Williams beat Jerell Clark. Very good opening match that saw Petey Williams get the win with the Canadian Destroyer. This was a solid back and forth match. Jerell got in quite a bit of offense before some interference by Team Canada allowed Petey to hit the Canadian Destroyer. Good match.

 

(2) Konnan & Ron Killings beat two local guys. After the first match I had some hope that they were moving away from the squash matches now that they don't have a weekly PPV, but i was wrong. Basic squash that saw the Truth get the win with what looked like a pedigree. I was a little distracted because everyone had turned their attention the one of the local guys who, after being knocked down, got back up and threw himself out of the ring like he was supposed to begin with.

 

Jeff Jarrett came out and cut a promo saying that he won't wait to learn who he is going to face at Victory Road and that he want's to know tonight. Monty Brown came out and interrupted and said that Jarrett doesn't have to wonder who it is since it's going to be none other than the Alpha Male. Jarrett slapped Monty and then the two brawled before security broke it up.

 

Larry Zbyszko came out and said that next week he would bring Terry Funk in to try and help control Dusty.

 

(3) Abyss beat Frankie Capone. Squash that lasted less than a minute. The end came when Abyss hit the Black Hole Slam. I like Abyss and i think there is so much more that could be done with him than having him squash someone every week.

 

(4) James Storm & Christopher Daniels defeated Chris Harris & Primetime to become the new TNA Tag Team Champions. This was a very good match but i don't really understand the point in switching the titles again so soon. I'll reserve judgement until i see where they are going with this whole situation.

 

XPLOSION TAPINGS

 

At this point they absolutely killed the crowd who had been pretty hot so far. They took about 30 minutes to set up for this. They had to switch the ring aprons and all the signs that said Impact. I'm the first to say that their new opening video is awesome but they played it three times during all this.

 

(1) Alex Shelley & Michael Shane & Kazarian defeated The Amazing Red & Chris Sabin & Mikey Batts. Good match that saw the end come when Shane hit the superkick.

 

Monty Brown came out to cut a promo saying that he is the number one contender for the heavyweight championship. This brought out Raven who disagreed and said that he is the number one contender. They started fighting and Brown hit the Pounce. This brought out Abyss who hit Brown with the Blackhole Slam. Jeff Hardy then came out and tried to take out Abyss but couldn't knock him down. Really good segment that should have been on Impact.

 

At this point I had to leave because my friend who went with me had to be somewhere. But the last match of the night was scheduled to be A.J. Styles versus an unannounced opponent.

 

Thoughts: The crowd was better than it was for the last tapings but it still only filled up one half of the arena. A good show tonight but it showed no signs of changing from being the squashfest that it had become. Since there is no PPV anymore they really should focus on developing the wrestlers personalities instead of focusing on squashes that do nothing to tell the audience anything about that particular wrestler. I will say that it's fun to go sit and watch. I just think that they need to make some changes.

 

Credit= PWTorch

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

So, once again, it sounds as if the better card is for the SYNDICATED show, and not for the NATIONALLY BROADCASTED show.

 

...the fuck is JJ smoking?

[AmazingRen 0]

So, once again, it sounds as if the better card is for the SYNDICATED show, and not for the NATIONALLY BROADCASTED show.

 

...the fuck is JJ smoking?

I don't know what he's smoking, but I've just about given up on this damn company. Not everybody (including me) doesn't get Xplosion so why have the main stars up there? If TNA doesn't pick up next week with Impact! then I;m leaving the wrestling world (which is sad because I've been a fan since '87). As Danny Glover would say "I'm getting too old for this shit."

[TNABaddboi 0]

While neither of these shows blows my mind, I don't see who you guys can say that Xplosion was better than Impact since they had a title match on the big show and the beginning of the #1 Contender's Angle, while they only taped one match and one interview for Xplosion.

 

What I was encouraged by was that they then followed it the "big angle" on Xplosion, which is a great step since Xplosion airs after Impact in most markets. They can then recap the Xplosion developments next week at Impact, and if they continue to do that, than maybe people who can watch Xplosion will make an effort to do so. So in this case, I think this is just you guys being negative to be negative.

[Magus 0]

So, once again, it sounds as if the better card is for the SYNDICATED show, and not for the NATIONALLY BROADCASTED show.

 

...the fuck is JJ smoking?

Definitely agree.

 

The tag title change was stupid also. I stuck up for them, as I said that Harris/Skipper winning the straps was an interesting move. I also said that TNA would find a way to fuck it up, and so they have. There's no reason to give the titles to the two guys who were supposed to be INJURED!!!! I just wanted to point out that I admitted when TNA did something good/right, and they let me down yet again.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Jesus Christ. Fuck this company.

[razazteca 0]

Why not make IMPACT a 2 hour show?

[Guest MikeSC]

Why not make IMPACT a 2 hour show?

To make it twice as shitty?

-=Mike

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

While neither of these shows blows my mind, I don't see who you guys can say that Xplosion was better than Impact since they had a title match on the big show and the beginning of the #1 Contender's Angle, while they only taped one match and one interview for Xplosion.

No, the man who reported the spoilers had to leave before any other matches could take place. He even said that there was an AJ Styles match still to come. And Xplosion is better since it seems it doesn't have squash matches on it, whereas Impact - TNA's current flagship show - is filled with them.

[Guest Donners]

Meltzer's report says nothing about an AJ Styles match.

 

- The following TNA Impact! tapings took place on Tuesday night in Orlando, FL at Universal Studios which will air this Friday on Fox Sports Net:

 

Dark Match:

- The Naturals defeated Bruce Steele & Rod Steel.

 

NWA TNA Impact! Tapings (Air Date: September 24):

- Petey Williams defeated Jerrelle Clark.

 

- Ron "The Truth" Killings & Konnan defeated local tag team.

 

- NWA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Jarrett came out to the ring and wanted to know who would face him at the Victory Road PPV on November 7th. "The Alpha Male" Monty Brown came out and said his opponent would be him. Both had a brawl to end the segment.

 

- It was announced that Terry Funk would be returning to TNA.

 

- Abyss defeated Frankie Capone.

 

- Christopher Daniels & James Storm defeated Chris Harris & Primetime to capture the NWA World Tag Team Titles.

 

 

 

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NWA TNA Xplosion Tapings:

- Alex Shelley, Michael Shane & Kazarian defeated The Amazing Red, Chris Sabin & Mikey Batts.

 

- Jeff Hardy, Raven, Abyss & Monty Brown got into a brawl at the end of the taping. An angle involving all four is expected to take place with all chasing the NWA World Title.

 

 

Must admit, I can't explain the two presumed squash matches either, and I'd thought the tag titles thing would take a few more weeks.

 

 

Apparently the taped vignettes will start airing from this week, so Spanky may be on Impact.

[Magus 0]

I just read that Spanky isn't returning TNA's calls and will probably stick to ZERO ONE. Probably the best thing for him, really.

[Fro 0]

D-Ray 3000 & Shark Boy b (Kid) Romeo & Roderick Strong

Kid Kash & Dallas b Lex Lovett & Brian Gamble

A.J. Styles b Bobby Roode

 

Those are the rest of the Xplosion tapings, from Meltzer.

 

They really, *really* need to bust out a good 15-20 minute match on Impact.

 

Why they're even running significant angles on Xplosion is pretty mindblowing if they're not on national TV. You could easily combine the World Title angles from Impact and Xplosion to make a great segment.

[Guest Staravenger]

Looks like I made a good decision by not watching TNA for the last 6 or 7 weeks. A stupid title switch on IMPACT? I guess this sets up a feud leading to King of the Road, but knowing TNA, they'll fuck it up.

 

I know I'm stating the obvious, but there's a chance TNA can get something right.

[Guest Coffey]

I'd like to see a match between Bobby Roode of TNA's Team Canada against Rob Conway from WWE's La Résistance.

 

Both, however, seem to constantly be stuck in tag matches.

 

Glad to hear that Roode is having a single's match with AJ. Too bad it's on Xplosion, so no one can watch it.

 

It just seems like TNA is making all the same mistakes that WCW & ECW made. The mistakes that WWE continues to make. The difference is, WWE has the money and exposure to continue after said mistakes. ECW & WCW didn't...and even with Panda, I'm positive that TNA doesn't. Afterall, WCW was backed by Ted Turner for a long time.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

WCW, ECW, and even WWE, were never as bad as this. TNA seems to make the wrong decision every chance they get. For all the stupid things WCW did, there was always some great wrestling. TNA cannot make that boast. Love them or hate them, ECW had the most loyal fanbase ever. Not TNA. For every AJ Styles, Monty Brown, or Abyss that TNA has, WWE has 5 guys of similar strenths and appeal.

[TheBigSwigg 0]

Wow. Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.....

[Guest Donners]

Two "very good matches" does not sound like a terrible show to me. Kinda funny the way people rush to bash shows before even seeing them. I sincerely doubt there would be positive comments no matter how good the show is.

[Guest Donners]

I just read that Spanky isn't returning TNA's calls and will probably stick to ZERO ONE. Probably the best thing for him, really.

Just saw that too. That is bad news.

[cmpunk04 0]

Makes me laugh that Kid Romeo and Roderick Strong (who is beter than half the TNA roster) jobbed to D RAY AND SHARK BOY!?!

 

Can you bury indie stars any more than that?

[Guest Markingout]

Makes me laugh that Kid Romeo and Roderick Strong (who is beter than half the TNA roster) jobbed to D RAY AND SHARK BOY!?!

 

Can you bury indie stars any more than that?

Roderick and Romeo aren't evem built up in TNA, so why would they possibly win a match in this case? They were just put there to lose to D-Ray and Shark Boy.

[Guest Staravenger]

Two "very good matches" does not sound like a terrible show to me. Kinda funny the way people rush to bash shows before even seeing them. I sincerely doubt there would be positive comments no matter how good the show is.

Exactly what are the very good matches? Clark/Williams? There's still two squash matches on the only national broadcasted show TNA has, and there's only four matches.

 

How THAT is good booking confuses me.

 

Besides, how do we know ANY of the matches were good? Going by someones word is never the best thing to do. Just read some reviews of WWE PPV's. There are some Grade-A morons who will say good to a Mabel/Kamala Iron Man Match.

[Guest MikeSC]

The tag title match looks like refried shit on a stick, to be honest. One really solid worker amongst 4 in a match --- especially considering how weak either member of AMW's work has been for the past, oh, year straight --- does not equal a match worthy of being called an abortion.

-=Mike

...It's amazing that a company with no drawing power seems to view a mediocre team as AMW as sacred cows, incapable of being demoted...

[cmpunk04 0]

Roderick and Romeo aren't evem built up in TNA, so why would they possibly win a match in this case? They were just put there to lose to D-Ray and Shark Boy.

 

I know you are correct saying that they will have been there to job to DRay and Shark but to me they are at the bottom of the TNA roster so I dont see why 2 of the no name jobbers they use to feed Abyss and Monty couldnt have been used instead of 2 reasonably talented workers.

[Vyce 0]

So, once again, it sounds as if the better card is for the SYNDICATED show, and not for the NATIONALLY BROADCASTED show.

 

...the fuck is JJ smoking?

Hey, anyone remember a couple weeks back when I criticized TNA by suggesting that they were, unwisely, going to make X-Plosion the better show than Impact, and I got insulted for it?

 

Nice to see I've been vindicated.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Wow. I guess my word has more value here than I previously thought, since Vyce feels vindicated by what I said.

 

Either that, or I'm tired and/or under the influence of something.

[Guest MikeSC]

Wow. I guess my word has more value here than I previously thought, since Vyce feels vindicated by what I said.

 

Either that, or I'm tired and/or under the influence of something.

Well, you're tired of TNA's shitty booking, if that helps.

-=Mike

[Guest Donners]

Two "very good matches" does not sound like a terrible show to me. Kinda funny the way people rush to bash shows before even seeing them. I sincerely doubt there would be positive comments no matter how good the show is.

Exactly what are the very good matches? Clark/Williams? There's still two squash matches on the only national broadcasted show TNA has, and there's only four matches.

 

How THAT is good booking confuses me.

 

Besides, how do we know ANY of the matches were good? Going by someones word is never the best thing to do. Just read some reviews of WWE PPV's. There are some Grade-A morons who will say good to a Mabel/Kamala Iron Man Match.

Well, every time there are negative comments about match quality in reviews, they're taken as gospel. I, in my naivety, thought that might apply to positive comments as well.

 

In a one-hour show, maybe 40 minutes minus ads and with at least 7 minutes for promos and so forth, four matches is fine. Indeed, that's probably one too many, which is why they end up having squash matches.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I think the reason a lot of us don't believe it when TNA reports of Impact! say the match is good is because in the past, whenever they have, the matches haven't been good. I'll be the first to admit that matches always seem better than they are when they're live, but saying a 5 minute spotfest with the current crop of X-Division workers is good when the match is seen and it isn't makes a lot of us jaded.

[Guest MikeSC]

I think the reason a lot of us don't believe it when TNA reports of Impact! say the match is good is because in the past, whenever they have, the matches haven't been good. I'll be the first to admit that matches always seem better than they are when they're live, but saying a 5 minute spotfest with the current crop of X-Division workers is good when the match is seen and it isn't makes a lot of us jaded.

Hell, I'll say it --- I've not seen a single match on Impact that was better than 3 stars in the history of the show. I've not seen one exceed 2 stars in about a month now.

-=Mike

[Vyce 0]

Wow. I guess my word has more value here than I previously thought, since Vyce feels vindicated by what I said.

 

Either that, or I'm tired and/or under the influence of something.

Well, your word certainly has value......if it allows me to state that I'm right and someone else is wrong.