2004 PWI 500

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PWI Top 500

1. Chris Benoit

2. Eddie Guerrero

3. HHH

4. Kenta Kobashi

5. Randy Orton

6. Toshiaki Kawada

7. John Cena

8. AJ Styles

9. Shawn Michaels

10. Chris Jericho

11. Hiroyoshi Tenzan

12. Jeff Jarrett

13. Kane

14. El Hijo Del Santo

15. John Bradshaw Layfield

16. Shelton Benjamin

17. Chavo Guerrero Jr.

18. Ron Killings

19. Hector Garza

20. Batista

21. Eugene

22. Rey Misterio Jr.

23. Undertaker

24. Booker T

25. Christopher Daniels

26. Bob Sapp

27. Michael Shane

28. Rob Van Dam

29. Mr. Niebla

30. Ric Flair

31. Christian

32. Chris Sabin

33. Keiji Muto

34. Samoa Joe

35. Raven

36. Kurt Angle

37. Buh Buh Ray Dudley

38. L.A. Park

39. Matt Hardy

40. Charlie Hass

41. Big Show

42. Tajiri

43. D-Von Dudley

44. Chris Harris

45. Rob Conway

46. Latin Lover

47. Shinya Hashimoto

48. Bill Goldberg

49. Matt Morgon

50. Kazarian

51. Spike Dudley

52. Jeventud Guerrera

53. Jushin Liger

54. Hardcore Holly

55. Naomichi Marufuji

56. Abyss

57. Rhyno

58. Hurricane

59. Edge

60. Sylvan Grenier

61. D-Lo Brown

62. Billy Gunn

63. Dough Basham

64. James Storm

65. Kid Kash

66. Rico

67. Shocker

68. Steve Corino

69. Johnny Jeter

70. Nicho El Millionario

71. Kensuke Sasaki

72. Donovan Morgan

73. CW Anderson

74. Jamie Noble

75. Tyson Tomko

76. Jamie Noble

77. American Dragon

78. Pat Kenny

79. Michael Modest

80. Luther Reigns

81. Elix Skipper

82. Paul London

83. Spanky

84. Tiger Mask IV

85. Garrison Cade

86. Essa Rios

87. Shinjiro Ohtani

88. Mordecai

89. CM Punk

90. Genichiro Tenryu

91. Abismo Negro

92. Billy Kidman

93. Naoya Ogawa

94. Ultimo Guerrero

95. Rikishi

96. Yuji Nagata

97. Atlantis

98. Rosey

99. Val Venis

100. Masato Tanaka

101. Monty Brown

102. Perro Aguayo JR.

103. Masa Chono

104. Test

105. A-Train

106. Steven Richards

107. Heat

108. Rene Dupree

109. Satoshi Kojima

110. Kenzo Suzuki

111. Nunzio

112. Mark Jindrak

113. Jerry Lynn

114. Chuck Palumbo

115. Black Warrior

116. Low-KI

117. Johnny Stamboli

118. Kaz Hayashi

119. Chase Stevens

120. Chavo Guerrero Sr.

121. Octogon

122. Sonny Siaki

123. Johnny Swinger

124. Scotty 2 Hotty

125. Jun Akiyama

126. Andy Douglas

127. Blue Panther

128. Sonjay Duitt

129. Shannon Moore

130. Mascara Sagrada

131. Al Snow

132. Yoshihiro Takayama

133. Chris Cage

134. Ultimo Dragon

135. CIMA

136. Mark Magnus

137. Orlando Jordon

138. Sho Funaki

139. Kojo Kanemoto

140. Akio

141. Tank Toland

142. Maven

143. Mitsuharu Misawa

144. Negro Casas

145. Sakado

146. Sabu

147. BG James

148. Matt Stryker

149. Julio Dinero

150. Jon Heidendreich

151. Shark Boy

152. Nova

153. Black Tiger

154. Chad Collyer

155. Colt Cabana

156. Joey Matthews

157. Super Delfin

158. Shawn Hernandez

159. Rodney Mack

160. Johnny Nitro

161. Predator

162. Dr. Wagner JR

163. Bobby Rude

164. Konnan

165. Red

166. Carly Colon

167. Manabu Nakanishi

168. Aaron Stevens

169. Electro Shock

170. Matt Cappotelli

171. Doug Williams

172. Dragon Kid

173. Damien 666

174. Halloween

175. Glen Gilberti

176. Brent Albright

177. Taka Michinoku

178. Petey Williams

179. Ekmo Fatu

180. Shane Douglas

181. Eric Young

182. Takehiro Murahama

183. Johnny Devine

184. Heavy Metal

185. Chris Masters

186. Kevin Northcutt

187. New Jack

188. Alebrije

189. Rockey Romero

190. Scoot Andrews

191. Great Sasuke

192. Homicide

193. Bison Smith

194. Ricky Reyes

195. Joel Maximo

196. Ace Steel

197. Jose MAximo

198. BJ Whitmer

199. Jimmy Rave

200. Felino

201. Skayde

202. Jonny Strorm

203. Ikuto Hidika

204. Dan Maff

205. Tom Howard

206. David Young

207. Mike Shane

208. Todd Shane

209. Josh Daniels

210. Jason Cross

211. Osamu Nishimura

212. Rey Misterio SR

213. Tony Jones

214. Jack Evans

215. Tony Kozina

216. Lex Lovett

217. Tokyo Magnum

218. D-Boy

219. Nigel McGuinness

220. Justin Credible

221. Shane Ballard

222. Dusty Rhodes JR

223. Shannon Ballard

224. Mike Quackenbash

225. Austin Aries

226. Quiet Storm

227. Bobby Quance

228. Zach Gowen

229. Sean Casey

230. Dick Togo

231. Milano

232. Jinsei

233. M-Dogg 20

234. Blue Meanie

235. SUWA

236. John Walters

237. James TIGHE

238. Shawn Daivari

239. Fujita

240. Masada

241. Josh Prohibition

242. Danny Inferno

243. Mike Kruel

244. Onyx

245. Jado

246. Brad Bradley

247. Danny Daniels

248. Yossino

249. Teddy Hart

250. Billy Fives

251. Prince Nana

252. Gedo

253. Mike Sullivan

254. Lamont

255. Dean Jablonski

256. Chris Hamrick

257. Seth Skyfire

258. Riki Choshu

259. Jimmy Vegas

260. Chad Wicks

261. Alex Arion

262. Harry Smith

263. Frank Parker

264. Sumo Fuji

265. Cody Hawk

266. Vinny Massaro

267. Todd Sexton

268. Jimmy Jacobs

269. Fast Eddie

270. Scorpio

271. DeVito

272. Iceberg

273. Dallas

274. Joe E Legend

275. Gram Hamada

276. Alex Shelly

277. HC Loc

278. Otto Schwanz

279. Akira Taue

280. Jacey North

281. Jason Rumble

282. Gabrial

283. Slash

284. Tom Brandi

285. Rico Casanova

286. Azreal

287. Aaron Agulera

288. Kohei Sato

289. Taru

290. Ryan Boz

291. Gran Apolo

292. The Stro

293. Biggie Biggs

294. Danny Doring

295. Zebra Kid

296. Gran Naniwa

297. Tank

298. Vance Nevada

299. Slyk Wagner Brown

300. Scotty Mac

301. Gene Sinski

302. Savio Vega

303. TJ Wilson

304. Rod Strong

305. Jerrelle Clark

306. Dennis Gregory

307. Juggernat

308. Slash Venom

309. Mike Barton

310. D-Ray 3000

311. Evan Karagias

312. Alter Boy Luke

313. Tyson Dux

314. Jorge Estrada

315. Steve Mack

316. Afa JR

317. Jason The Legend

318. Boomer Payne

319. Sasiki

320. Dusty Wolfe

321. Sed Strong

322. Blade Boudroux

323. Striker

324. Buff Bagwell

325. Firestorm

326. Adan Windsor

327. Nate Webb

328. Mike Mondo

329. Johnny Heartbreaker

330. Lash LeRoux

331. Chris Candido

332. DA Beasts

333. Murder 1

334. Snuka JR

335. Naphatali

336. Rob Ekos

337. Marc Ash

338. Quinn Magnum

339. Steve Madison

340. Chris Hero

341. Mike Bell

342. Rainman

343. Arch Kinkaid

344. Frank Murdoch

345. Ray Gordy

346. Mark Bell

347. Brandon K

348. Justice

349. Devon Strom

350. Glen Osbourne

351. Sinn

352. Standing Thunder

353. Rapid Fire Maldanado

354. Arik Cannon

355. Rod Steel

356. Mike Taylor

357. Reno

358. Mahoney

359. Mana

360. Eric Preist

361. Seth Shai

362. Jack Xavier

363. Rob Begley

364. Brock Singleton

365. John Rambo

366. Robin Knightwing

367. Gillberg

368. Buff-E

369. Mace Mendoza

370. Super Hentai

371. Mike The Miz

372. Joey Knight

373. KC Thunder

374. Ace Darling

375. T Rantula

376. Delerious

377. Jap Pool Boy

378. Mac Johnson

379. Jardi Franz

380. TJ Powers

381. Nikita Allanov

382. Cheetah Masta

383. Bruse Steels

384. Vito Thomsaselli

385. Antonio Thomas

386. Caprice Colman

387. Steve DemArco

388. Johnny The Body

389. Dropkick Murphy

390. Fred Sampson

391. Rockin Rebel

392. Chasyn Rance

393. Eddie Brown

394. Johnny Ova

395. James Keenan

396. Scott Savage

397. Mr. Ooh La La

398. Matt Sydal

399. George South SR

400. Bart Blaxon

401. Shawn Donovan

402. Bouncer

403. Sal Thomaselli

404. Scottie Gash

405. Jeremy V

406. JC BAily

407. Frankie Capon

408. CJ ODoyle

409. Scott Phoenix

410. KC Blade

411. Jacob Ladder

412. J Rocc

413. Major Haredway

414. EC Negro

415. Sal Rinauro

416. Oman Tortuga

417. Eddie Atlas

418. Roman

419. Tenderfoot

420. Glenn Spectre

421. Robert Thompson

422. Billy Bax

423. Greg Spits

424. Hacker

425. Russell Simpson

426. Johnny Graham

427. Bob Evans

428. Sain

429. Guapo

430. Diablo Santago

431. JJ Perez

432. Don Basher

433. Bio Hazard

434. Rory Fox

435. Spiro

436. Lee Great

437. Drago

438. Rob McBride

439. Jeff Starr

440. TJ Dalton

441. Eric Xtasy

442. Flex Fenom

443. The Bruiser

444. Magic

445. Johnny Maxx

446. Kvin Knight

447. John Curse

448. Jeromy Sage

449. Suba

450. Robbie Ellis

451. Apollo Khan

452. Major DeBEers

453. LeGrande

454. Mozart Fontaine

455. Don Brodie

456. Slim J

457. HAllowicked

458. Ruffhouse

459. Joseph

460. Rodd Dell

461. Ram

462. Karazy K

463. Billy Black

464. Vince Vicallo

465. Bomberry

466. JT Stahr

467. Shadow Jackson

468. Gutter

469. Mega

470. Tejas

471. Eddie Kingston

472. Jack Thriller

473. El Tronado

474. Darin Childs

475. Scab

476. Xero

477. Dave Swift

478. J Busta

479. Enigma

480. Snatch Haggis

481. Tommy Suede

482. Bull Dog Raines

483. Brandon P

484. Tery Alan

485. Billy Bart

486. Lil Cholo

487. Q Lee

488. Bruiser Graham

489. Foreskain

490. Seth Delay

491. Conrad Kennedy III

492. Shirley Doe

493. Danger

494. Shane Shadows

495. Vennis DeMArco

496. Gran Akuma

497. JT Lighting

498. Mike Dell

499. Mister Zero

500. Rod Steele

 

Any thoughts? I was a bit disgusted with the high placement of Goldberg (Chavo Classic ranked a bit high as well) but it's an interesting list none the less.

[algrim 0]

Good for Benoit and Eddie. It's a shame they didn't enjoy longer title reigns.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Rod Steele deserves higher. Not that he's awesome or anything, but the #500 position?

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

There's a thread over in the Misc. Promotions folder

[Guest AdamF]

Geez, this list is cut and pasted from the same place every time I see it posted. They left out half my name!

[SamoaRowe 0]

There's a thread over in the Misc. Promotions folder

That's nice, didn't see it.

[JJMc 0]

Eugene is #21? Come ON. Seriously.

[SamoaRowe 0]

I just noticed Matt Morgan at number 49. All I can say is "HUH!?!"

[Guest Staravenger]

How id Edge anywhere NEAR the 50's? I thought the list is August 2003-August 2004, and he's only been back since late April. He shouldn't even be in the 100's.

[Guest Real F'n Show]

This list is always horribly put together.

 

Matt Morgan ahead of Liger!?

 

Benjamin ahead of Haas?

 

American Dragon and Jamie Noble in the 70's?

 

Oh well, it's not like this list means anything.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Benjamin ahead of Haas?

As he should be.

[Guest W_Hillard]

Why is Jamie Noble listed twice?

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Better question: why is he only 1 spot ahead (or worse, 1 spot behind) Tyson f'ing Tomko?

[Guest Real F'n Show]

Benjamin ahead of Haas?

As he should be.

Um, care to explain?

[iliketurtles 0]

Benjamin ahead of Haas?

As he should be.

Um, care to explain?

Shelton got pushed more, more exposure, and had better matches than Charlie had this year. And I'd go out and say he's a better wrestler than Haas, and that's not taking anything away from him.

 

Who's going to get rated higher? Someone wrestling Triple H on the main event of Raw, or someone wrestling a meaningless tag match with Rico on Smackdown?

[JST 0]

Each year I wonder what the hell's the point of debating this list.

 

I mean, you all know it sucks.

[AboveAverage484 0]

What ever happend to the DVDR 500?

[pochorenella 0]

Congrats to Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero for those high positions, they're more than deserved this time around. I was sure they would place in those exact positions, and the Top 10 looks pretty nice even if I don't follow Puro that much so I don't know what Kobashi or Kawada have done this year.

 

From a quick glance, Jeff Jarret is way too high as always. Just because he holds that devalued NWA Title and holds on to it by way of guitar shots and constant interfering doesn't make him Top 15 material. He's never had a match on TNA that could even approach the greatness of his match vs HBK on IYH II, the best of his career.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"What ever happend to the DVDR 500?"

 

Answer: We shred it and the guy who posts it here to pieces each time it pops up, as it deserves to be.

[razazteca 0]

91. Abismo Negro why is he so high, is it because he was on TNA for a few weeks? And whats up with Hector Garza being the token luchadore making the top 25.....I thought that was Shocker's spot.

[evilhomer 0]

I just noticed Matt Morgan at number 49. All I can say is "HUH!?!"

It's pointless debating a list like this but that's one that really stuck out to me as well. I can't speak for his OVW work, but his month in the WWE was nothing memorable. Certainly nothing to achieve that high of a ranking.

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

26. Bob Sapp

Forgive my lack of puro knowledge but,he wrestles?enuff to be #26?

 

I thought he was just k-1/pride/whatever.

[Guest Sturgis]

From a quick glance, Jeff Jarret is way too high as always. Just because he holds that devalued NWA Title and holds on to it by way of guitar shots and constant interfering doesn't make him Top 15 material. He's never had a match on TNA that could even approach the greatness of his match vs HBK on IYH II, the best of his career.

That's because 90% of the list is based off win/loss records and talent and great matches make up the other 10%

[The Niggardly King 0]

Mordecai at 88

[Placebo Effect 0]

Each year I wonder what the hell's the point of debating this list.

 

I mean, you all know it sucks.

Exactly.

[Toshiaki Koala 0]

This is a pretty good list, people. There's no reason to knock it.

 

After all, Undertaker and JBL could wrestle circles around Lyger, right?

 

Right?

 

...?

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

No way Jarrett should be that high. Sorry, NWA champ or not the guy sucks. Watched TNAs Best of the Heavyweights this week, and half tha matches were Doule Js and gawd did they blow

Hell, the best match of the comp was Abyss vs. SABU!!! COME ON!! Eat me Jarrett.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

For the 1,000,000th time. This is a kayfabed list. Actual wrestling ability has little to do with it. It is more along the lines of Struan's "Push Me Poll" for what they are trying to accomplish. That's why Matt Morgan rates above these guys. Because in the kayfabed wrestling world, he is harder to defeat. I won't defend that specific selection, but that is the reasoning behind it.

 

Eugene is #21? Come ON. Seriously.

 

I am guessing they count his work as Nick Dinsmore in OVW as well.

[Guest DeputyHawk]

Hey, thanks for the plug al. The Push-Me Poll, as I see it, is a "kayfabed" list that actually makes sense. There isn't the confusion of win/loss, natural talent / match quality that PWI has. It's all about who's being pushed hardest. The Push-Me Poll is about as representative an objective list of success in North American wrestling as I think there can be. Check it out on the main TSM site or through the links below! ... additional shilling over ...

 

DH

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

The PWI 500 is not based on "who has better wrestling ability - Jushin Liger or JBL"

 

It is based on:

 

Who had a more successful year - JBL or Liger?

Who garnered more mainstream attention - JBL or Liger?

Who has better technical skill - JBL or Liger?

Who was involved in more big-time matches - JBL or Liger?

Who showed more improvement - JBL or Liger?

Who won more big time matches - JBL or Liger?

Who lost more big time matches? JBL or Liger?

Who did the most with a push? JBL or Liger?

Who won more important titles? JBL or Liger?

Who had a better W/L record? JBL or Liger?

 

Not "who is the smark darling" or "who can wrestler better"...

 

Figure that into your calculations, as well as OVW time (Morgan, Moredecai, Eugene, etc.) before you bash it.

 

The list has a few noticeable errors, but otherwise is pretty accurate.

 

Keep in mind the time period, as well.

 

September 2003 to August 2004.