GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Like you're fair and balanced. 45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC. Dude - it's ABC. Don't blindly believe the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Bush wuz schooled. You should be banned from this discussion for using the word "wuz". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Like you're fair and balanced. 45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC. Dude - it's ABC. Don't blindly believe the media. OMGLIBERALBIAS~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. Wow, that is a damned scientific poll there. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Like you're fair and balanced. 45 % say Kerry won 36% say Bush won according to ABC. Dude - it's ABC. Don't blindly believe the media. Yeah but it could have been a CBS poll or DOCUMENT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yeah, I think we can safely ignore Mr Scout. -=Mike Like you're fair and balanced.. But he's not retarded like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. I bet those Republicans were from Vermont. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. You said that already. I ignored it b/c it's ABC. Oh, and b/c you said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I want Bush to say this one again. "If you gave a speech, as my opponent did, calling the Reagan presidency eight years of "moral darkness," then you may be a lot of things, but the candidate of conservative values is not one of them." - President George W. Bush, 09/02/04 - RNC Reagan was an effective leader with a lot of popular support, but it's not like didn't make any scary moves. For instance, he let a lot of crazy people go out into the streets, saying they'd find private care that never really materialized. I don't think Kerry is trying to be the candidate of conservative values. If he was, I wouldn't support him, because I don't think it's in the government's place to regulate values. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. Wow, that is a damned scientific poll there. -=Mike Yes, it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. It's 70 people. Who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. You said that already. I ignored it b/c it's ABC. Oh, and b/c you said it. Horse with blinders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. You said that already. I ignored it b/c it's ABC. Oh, and b/c you said it. Horse with blinders. Idiot without statistics knowledge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I guess pot, kettle, black would be too cliched to use here about Senor Scout. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Wow, Joe Lockhart is quite the troll, isn't he? Man, he might kill Kerry's spin by being a total jackass. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Kerry wins at CBS, too. Oh and Bush's team didn't get the knockout blow they wanted. Kerry's got a lot more momentum now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. You said that already. I ignored it b/c it's ABC. Oh, and b/c you said it. Horse with blinders. You aren't banned yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Wow, he wins with the MSM. I'm shocked. Gee, any guesses as to if FNC will outdraw the networks for this? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Kerry wins at CBS, too. Better check the legitimacy at CBS there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Kerry wins at CBS, too. ... You. Are. An. Idiot. Oh and Bush's team didn't get the knockout blow they wanted. Kerry's got a lot more momentum now. I don't think ANYONE is getting anything out of the debates. But hey, believe what you want to believe. "Horse with blinders", right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 1, 2004 C..BS News? Yeah and Bush needed a knockout blow to win......................... Kerry needed to avoid one to not fade into Dean territory, which he got, and is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 After watching them on FNC and CNN, I actually think Lockhart and McCurry are trying to sabotage Kerry. They were such utter pricks. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I had it 43 Kerry, 31 Bush. I gave points for everything. From Kerry adding the extra hand for the hand shake (+1) to him starting off a lil long in thanks the moderator, florida, etc. (-2). If they made a good point, they got a point. If they made a bad point, they got a negative. If they made a good impression on me in one area, they got a point. If they avoided a point, they lost one. However, if they avoided it and spun it well, I gave +2. Of course, things went in degrees, so if they did really good, I would give 3's or 4's. The only 5 I gave was for Bushes Closing Statement. I gave him a -4 though on one or two occasions. He emoted really well at one point (talking about the wife) and I must've given him 6 or 7 points in total for that. But overall he was bad, and I gave him a 1 for Overall Effect, while I gave Kerry a 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I'd let it ride at a tie, but anytime a challenger goes up against the incumbent, he/she NEEDS to do better than a tie. According to ABC, who sampled 35 Republicans and 35 Democrats, Kerry DID do better than a tie. You said that already. I ignored it b/c it's ABC. Oh, and b/c you said it. Horse with blinders. See - this is why I'm in all likelyhood not voting. This election has created a legion of dolts who follow the media instead of doing their own research. Then they use that variety of skewed information to develop a skewed opinion on politics. If you cared. If you REALLY FUCKING CARED about what is going on in this country then you would base your opinion on fact instead of "Kerry is good, Bush is bad". WHY is Kerry good? WHY is Bush bad? WHO led you to believe that Kerry is good and Bush is bad? Think for yourself. Don't believe the hype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Scarborough says Kerry clearly won "on points," And since the Right Wingers here are admitting this was a "draw" the avergage moderate would say "Kerry won." Oh and Kerry didn't looked P.O'd every time Kerry got him with a zinger. How the hell do you figure that? Kerry had to knock one out of the park tonight - he did NOT do that. All he did was manage to stay alive - for now. That's the only "victory" that he can claim. As for doing what he NEEDED to do to WIN the election - he completely failed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Kerry will be buried for the whole not spelling out his plan. That was a big problem. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ronixis Report post Posted October 1, 2004 It was a tie. Kerry had missed one major opertune point, Mangement of the Confict. Other than that, not spetacular...but Bush is NO Zell Miller. Too damn angry and he took too much time in his responces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I think Kerry blew Bush out of the water. And this is from someone who thought Kerry would _lose_ in the debates. He was much more aggressive than I thought he'd be, which he needed to do. Bush looked silly at times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Agreed about Kerry needing to win a huge one tonight, not actually explaining his plans is what hurt him. This just keeps Kerry alive for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
