JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Haven't seen this posted yet... "Pat Patterson, a long time friend and confidant of Vince McMahon, may be on the way out of WWE after becoming imbroiled in a behind the scenes situation that saw him speaking out against the continued strong push being received by Triple H on the "RAW brand". Patterson recently told Vince McMahon he believed Triple H was pushed too strongly as the center of the RAW universe and that relying too heavily on Triple H is one of the problems that has caused ratings and house show drops in recent months. A WWE source tells us Patterson has given his notice to Vince McMahon and plans to retire after 46 years in the wrestling business. McMahon is known to surround himself with "yes men" who will tell him what they think he wants to hear. Patterson isn't a "yes man" and speaking his mind about the Triple H situation sparked tension that apparently has prompted Patterson's decision to retire." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 if this is true, we saw it coming after first hearing about his statements...chances are this isn;t entirely of his own will... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Good for Pat. Say what you will about Patterson, but he has always had a great wrestling mind. He's been credited with creating the Royal Rumble idea and he has helped with some of the biggest matches in WWF history(two that come to mind are Hogan/Rock and Hogan/Warrior). If this is totally true, good for Pat..............about time someone there speaks up to Vince about some of the problems they are having. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Wow... just wow. Is Vince McMahon really that out of touch with reality? The fans are saying it, other wrestlers are saying it, the ratings are reflecting it, and even his long-time friend Pat Patterson is saying it: Triple H is killing Raw! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 It's on Impact Wrestling - but they usually get their news from Meltzer. http://www.impactwrestling.com/content.aspx?snum=3526 I'll wait until the "source" is confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Danny Dubya v 2.0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Now if only he takes Sylvan Grenier with him, we'll be all set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Now if only he takes Sylvan Grenier with him, he'll be all set. Edited for accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 I wonder what it will take for Vince to see the damn light. Maybe if Shane disowns him that might work Seriously, I called this in another thread. Vince just lost the best guy he had to structure a match and come up with great finishes. Russo and Hart have both said it publicly that someone like Patterson was needed in wcw for match structure and finishes which they were very poor at. I wonder how this will affect matches now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Didn't Patterson always help book and set up the Royal Rumble, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoes Head Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Now if only he takes Sylvan Grenier with him, we'll be all set. That's who he suggested get the monster push instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Every good agent or booker makes bad decisions time to time. Didn't Patterson book a few of those triple threats in 2002 that had no right to be as good as they were? I think Taker/Rock/Angle and Brock/Angle/Big Show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Didn't Patterson always help book and set up the Royal Rumble, too? Good for Pat. Say what you will about Patterson, but he has always had a great wrestling mind. He's been credited with creating the Royal Rumble idea and he has helped with some of the biggest matches in WWF history(two that come to mind are Hogan/Rock and Hogan/Warrior). If this is totally true, good for Pat..............about time someone there speaks up to Vince about some of the problems they are having. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Well yeah, he not only created the Rumble, but I think he layed out how it would go every year. I wonder if there will be a noticeable difference in the product or not when he's gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Damn. Vince has no sense of what's going on in front of his face. As he said to Hogan a couple moons ago on Smackdown: "You're so caught up in your own bullshit." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 They're losing one helluva booker if they get rid of him. He books the rumble every year and even a few matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Valcourt Report post Posted October 12, 2004 If this is true, I wonder if Pat would ever think about working somewhere else. Although, I am sure he feels he has done what he wanted to do in wrestling. I'd like to see a shoot tape after all this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PimpDaddySarp Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Don't worry. I'm sure they will replace Patterson with somebody who can match his years of experience and knowledge of the wrestling business. You can't get a job in the WWE without wrestling knowledge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysPissedOff 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 You *are* joking, right? Most of the bookers from the past few years weren't even wrestling FANS, let alone knew anything about the business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PimpDaddySarp Report post Posted October 12, 2004 *ahem* Yes I was joking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 12, 2004 I was always under the assumption that Pat Patterson WAS a "yes man." That's why when I read the thread title, I intially though "well, I guess that's good." Apparently I was incorrect/misinformed? Oh well, I won't miss him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sylvan Grenier Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Now if only he takes Sylvan Grenier with him, we'll be all set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Meltzer has confirmed the news. Patterson resigned on the 5th, and the Tuesday PPV will be his last day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Meltzer has confirmed the news. Patterson resigned on the 5th, and the Tuesday PPV will be his last day. From Meltzer's update today: Also as noted in the preview, Pat Patterson did officially resign from the company on the 5th and his final night will be Taboo Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted October 12, 2004 I wonder what it will take for Vince to see the damn light. Maybe if Shane disowns him that might work Seriously, I called this in another thread. Vince just lost the best guy he had to structure a match and come up with great finishes. Russo and Hart have both said it publicly that someone like Patterson was needed in wcw for match structure and finishes which they were very poor at. I wonder how this will affect matches now. Do you know when Hart and Russo said that? If possable, I would like to read what they said. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sylvan Grenier Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Think they'll give him a retirement party? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Well, heeee did it hiiiiiiss waaaaaay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Meltzer just confirmed it. His last day is Taboo Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest loser Report post Posted October 12, 2004 sad to see him leave..but it's good for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 I called it, I knew this would happen. http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...topic=62018&hl= This only reminds us that much more just how much certain people mean to Vince, and how much power certain people have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Good. Maybe now TNA can get someone to get some better matches out of their wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
