Impact! spoilers

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COMPLETE TNA IMPACT! SPOILERS INCLUDING JEFF JARRETT'S CHALLENGER AT THE VICTORY ROAD PPV REVEALED

by Mike Johnson @ 7:45:00 PM on 10/12/2004

 

 

Jonathon Sawicki called in the following spoiler results from TNA's Xplosion taping tonight at Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida:

 

Pre-Show:

 

*Jeremy Borash and Shane Douglas welcomed the fans.

 

Impact!

 

*In the finals of the NWA championship contender tournament, Jeff Hardy pinned Monty Brown to earn the Victory Road PPV title match against Jeff Jarrett. Abyss was shown watching from the entrance. The referee was bumped, so he couldn't count a pinfall after Hardy hit the Twist of Fate. Abyss hit the ring and hit the Black Hole Slam on Hardy. Brown hit Abyss with the Pounce. Raven hit the ring from the crowd and drilled Brown with a steel chair, setting up the pinfall.

 

*Backstage, Dusty Rhodes and Vince Russo were arguing.

 

They aired a video package announcing Shark Boy, Chad Collyer, Amazing Red, and Sonjay Dutt would be in the X-Division Gauntlet Match at the Victory Road PPV.

 

*TNA X-Division champion Petey Williams pinned Jason ? Williams came down dressed like AJ Styles. Styles came to the ring they brawled after the match.

 

*3 Live Kru defeated Eric Stevens and "two NWA Wildside workers"

 

*The Six Points of Impact! with Jeff Hammond was about Victory Road.

 

*Raven was scheduled to face Brian Gamble. As Gamble made his way to the ring, Raven came out of nowhere and rocked him with a steel chair. Raven came to the ring and said that he deserved the title shot and could have defeated Monty Brown. Brown came to the ring and they brawled. Out came Abyss, which turned it into a Three-Way fight. Everyone broke the brawl up. At one point, Abyss hit the Black Hole Slam on Brown, who landed on the ring mic and broke it.

 

*They aired a video package on Roddy Piper's "In the Pit with Piper" segment at the PPV.

 

*Bobby Rude and Eric Young defeated James Storm and Christopher Daniels to win the NWA Tag Team championships.

 

*As Impact! went off the air, Jeff Hardy challenged Jeff Jarrett to make their NWA championship match at the PPV a ladder match.

 

Credit=PWInsider

 

Looks like there setting up Raven v. Monty v. Abyss which will keep Raven and Abyss in the title picture. Good thing AJ and Petey finally made contact. I'm also glad they gave the belts to Team Canada which would put AMW and XXX back together. It sounds like the best Impact yet.

[Fro 0]

That's a great stip for the main event... really shores up the card because a ladder match plays to Hardy's strengths, which is bumping like crazy. Jarrett's been in a good ladder match with Benoit so it should be good.

 

Card is shaping up surprisingly well.

[Guest ian.]

It sounds like the best Impact yet.

 

...cept for the fact that Hardy is getting ANOTHER shot at the title...in a ladder match.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

That's a great stip for the main event... really shores up the card because a ladder match plays to Hardy's strengths, which is bumping like crazy. Jarrett's been in a good ladder match with Benoit so it should be good.

 

Card is shaping up surprisingly well.

Don't compare Benoit to Hardy.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Man their really passing those Tag belts around.

[slimm44 0]

Upset about Brown losing, but definitely good to see no squash matches. Team Canada gaining the gold is cool too. Victory Road should be good. And I got my ticket last week

[Guest MikeSC]

Wow, NOTHING will sell a show like JJ v Hardy in a LADDER match.

-=Mike

[JoeDirt 0]

Wow, NOTHING will sell a show like JJ v Hardy in a LADDER match.

-=Mike

I was hoping for GUITAR on a POLE~!~!~!

 

[Guest Phenom]

Well, that takes care of the America's X/Triple Wanted problwm. And Team Canada won!

[Astro101 0]

Sounds like a good show, and the main event picture looks to be shaping up very well.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

Seems like they're setting Hardy up for a title run..

 

That's not a bad thing, that's a good thing!

 

Especially since it may (Or at least I have a string of hope) mean that Jarret will drop out of the title picture for now while Brown Abyss and Raven go for the gold..

 

Maybe Raven can win the bealt back in a Sunday Night Heat rematch?

[2GOLD 0]

So TNA thinks the smart business decision is Jeff Hardy as champion on your first major Sunday night PPV?

 

Well, nice.

 

So, when do they start the auction of TNA merchandise when the company folds from doing something so incredibly stupid?

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Impact!

 

*In the finals of the NWA championship contender tournament, Jeff Hardy pinned Monty Brown to earn the Victory Road PPV title match against Jeff Jarrett. Abyss was shown watching from the entrance. The referee was bumped, so he couldn't count a pinfall after Hardy hit the Twist of Fate. Abyss hit the ring and hit the Black Hole Slam on Hardy. Brown hit Abyss with the Pounce. Raven hit the ring from the crowd and drilled Brown with a steel chair, setting up the pinfall.

So Hardy/Jarrett, the match that bombed on a $9.95 PPV and was loathed by practically everybody, is the main event for TNA's biggest show to date. Wow...this company REALLY doesn't like the notion of making a profit, does it?

*Backstage, Dusty Rhodes and Vince Russo were arguing.

 

They aired a video package announcing Shark Boy, Chad Collyer, Amazing Red, and Sonjay Dutt would be in the X-Division Gauntlet Match at the Victory Road PPV.

Good to see TNA still doesn't stick by to their definition of the X-Division as "non-stop, hard-hitting, innovative action." Shark Boy is a decent worker in tag matches and has lots of charisma, but that's it. Chad Collyer is the ANTITHESIS of X-Division. Thanks TNA.

*TNA X-Division champion Petey Williams pinned Jason ? Williams came down dressed like AJ Styles. Styles came to the ring they brawled after the match.

Sounds like a decent way to build to the X-Division title match at Victory Road. I'd have liked if Williams could defeat some KNOWN X-Divisioners, though, so that it looks like he has a chance against Styles without resorting to interference.

*3 Live Kru defeated Eric Stevens and "two NWA Wildside workers"

 

*The Six Points of Impact! with Jeff Hammond was about Victory Road.

If 3LK constantly get great live reactions, which they do, why not give them a feud with an existing or newly created stable/tag team to PUSH them and MAKE US give a fuck aside from their name value from other employers?

*Raven was scheduled to face Brian Gamble. As Gamble made his way to the ring, Raven came out of nowhere and rocked him with a steel chair. Raven came to the ring and said that he deserved the title shot and could have defeated Monty Brown. Brown came to the ring and they brawled. Out came Abyss, which turned it into a Three-Way fight. Everyone broke the brawl up. At one point, Abyss hit the Black Hole Slam on Brown, who landed on the ring mic and broke it.

I'm actually enticed at a Raven/Brown/Abyss three-way hardcore match. Abyss is terrific, Brown is charismatic, and Raven knows how to work a hardcore environment better than anybody else in the States.

*They aired a video package on Roddy Piper's "In the Pit with Piper" segment at the PPV.

 

*Bobby Rude and Eric Young defeated James Storm and Christopher Daniels to win the NWA Tag Team championships.

Good to see they're treating Piper as something other than a novelty.

 

And I'm all for getting the tag belts off of Storm/Daniels so long as it makes the XXX/AMW feud mean something other than "hey, we respect each other, so let's see who's the best." This should re-ignite the fire in the feud, and make the two teams want to KILL each other to decide who gets the shot at Team Canada.

But Rude/Young? C'mon! At LEAST make it Rude/Devine! And yes, I know Devine's not cleared because he was stabbed, but wait until he is cleared to put the belts on them!

*As Impact! went off the air, Jeff Hardy challenged Jeff Jarrett to make their NWA championship match at the PPV a ladder match.

Considering that Jeff Hardy has won ONE Ladder Match in his WWF/WWE career, why should I think he has a chance now?

Looks like there setting up Raven v. Monty v. Abyss which will keep Raven and Abyss in the title picture. Good thing AJ and Petey finally made contact. I'm also glad they gave the belts to Team Canada which would put AMW and XXX back together. It sounds like the best Impact yet.

If by "best Impact yet" you mean "at least they're sticking with a direction, even if it still sucks," then yes.

[Magus 0]

Utter shite. Why they are going ahead with Hardy/Jarrett again is beyond comprehension. Its proven to be a terrible match, so why have it headline TNA's biggest show ever? And it being a ladder match doesn't give it any hope, either. All of Hardy's TLC and/or ladder matches from WWE were in tag format and with a lot of other workers making the match. It certainly wasn't for him.

 

And there's no way that JJ will job at Victory Road. And even if this was the one time where he DID let someone get the belt (although not by a clear or decisive win), Jeff Hardy is the one guy not to give it to. Hardy as champ would make TNA look even less credible than they do now with JJ on top. The other three guys look like they were just thrown in there without rhyme or reason. Its getting downright terrible.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Impact!

 

*In the finals of the NWA championship contender tournament, Jeff Hardy pinned Monty Brown to earn the Victory Road PPV title match against Jeff Jarrett. Abyss was shown watching from the entrance. The referee was bumped, so he couldn't count a pinfall after Hardy hit the Twist of Fate. Abyss hit the ring and hit the Black Hole Slam on Hardy. Brown hit Abyss with the Pounce. Raven hit the ring from the crowd and drilled Brown with a steel chair, setting up the pinfall.

 

U-G-H. OK, I'm now offically sure that everyone running this company is fucking retarded. For starters, they could have done something completely new and had Abyss win the tournament and at least have a ME for Victory Road that would be NEW. Second off, Raven(my second choice to win the tournament)should be here as well. He never got to achive his "destiny" and they never ran with anything that angle produced.........and in case you didn't know.........it probably the best ME stuff TNA ever did(from a buildup standpoint). Third, Monte Brown would have been a better choice than Hardy for the simple fact that they have been pushing the hell out of him for sometime. Besides that, he at least looks legit. Hardy wouldn't look legit in a junior high school locker room. I am now convinced now that they not only want to lose money.......they want to go out of business.

 

 

*Backstage, Dusty Rhodes and Vince Russo were arguing.

 

Another example of TNA's "dead weight". Get rid of them both.......

 

They aired a video package announcing Shark Boy, Chad Collyer, Amazing Red, and Sonjay Dutt would be in the X-Division Gauntlet Match at the Victory Road PPV.

 

Now, I like the idea of a gauntlet match........but why wouldn't they do a couple seperate X-division matches. They are STILL the best thing the company puts on and the X-division matches have been mediocre at best over the last year or so.

 

*TNA X-Division champion Petey Williams pinned Jason ? Williams came down dressed like AJ Styles. Styles came to the ring they brawled after the match.

 

YAWN. Petey beats a jobber. Ho Hum who really gives a shit? Honestly, AJ/Petey is one of the matches on PPV that I would actually look forward to. These two have been feuding in TNA for a while now.........too bad it doesn't feel like it at all.

 

*3 Live Kru defeated Eric Stevens and "two NWA Wildside workers"

 

Now that's what I call PPV promotion. If that doesn't get me to order, I don't know what will? Good promotional job TNA...............nevermind.

 

 

*Raven was scheduled to face Brian Gamble. As Gamble made his way to the ring, Raven came out of nowhere and rocked him with a steel chair. Raven came to the ring and said that he deserved the title shot and could have defeated Monty Brown. Brown came to the ring and they brawled. Out came Abyss, which turned it into a Three-Way fight. Everyone broke the brawl up. At one point, Abyss hit the Black Hole Slam on Brown, who landed on the ring mic and broke it.

 

They BETTER not do a fucking three way at Victory Road between these three.

 

 

*Bobby Rude and Eric Young defeated James Storm and Christopher Daniels to win the NWA Tag Team championships.

 

GREAT! Finally TNA does something right. OK, that's total sarcasm in case you haven't guessed. I would have loved if a good version of Team Canada won the belts.........of course they make it the worst two memebers.........although I understand the others are injured/in singles fueds. SO basically this made no sense.........

 

*As Impact! went off the air, Jeff Hardy challenged Jeff Jarrett to make their NWA championship match at the PPV a ladder match.

 

Hardy vs. Jarrett - Ladder match = TNA

[AmazingRen 0]

more detailed report including announcing the names of Hall and Nash:

 

 

TNA Impact tapings

October 12, 2004

Orlando, Fla. at Universal Studios

Report by Danney Robertson, PWTorch.com correspondent

 

IMPACT TAPINGS

 

(1) Jeff Hardy beat Monty Brown to become the number one contender for the TNA Heavyweight Championship. Decent match that saw Monty dominate most of the match. Hardy started to come back but Abyss came out and gave Hardy a black hole slam. Soon after Raven came out and took Monty out with a chairshot. This allowed Hardy to hit one more twist of fate and get the pin. Monty needs to develop some more offense besides punching, headlocks, and the Pounce because that's all he used in this match. Even having said that, it disappoints me to see Hardy versus Jarrett again.

 

Promo aired from the back with Vince Russo and Dusty Rhodes. They said that they would let the fans vote to decide who gets to run the company. Not a bad way for Russo to make his exit from TNA but it just feels like they're trying to go for the interactive element like Taboo Tuesday will have.

 

(2) Petey Williams beat a local guy. The local guy got in a lot of offense until Petey Williams hit the Styles Clash. After the match Petey put on Style jacket and mocked Styles. Styles ran out and took out Petey. Styles then dove over the ropes and took out Petey and D’Amore. Rather pointless match as Petey was more or less the one being squashed until he hit the Styles Clash.

 

Promo aired for the coming of the New York Connection.

 

(3) The 3 Live Kru beat three of the worst looking professional wrestlers that I have ever seen. Basic squash match that saw the 3 Live Kru get the win after one of their triple team maneuvers. Before the match they said that no matter who wins the tag team titles they are next in line.

 

They announced that the Outsiders would be Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. Then is some baffling news it was announced that Hall would be aligned with Jarrett and Nash would be against him. What? Unless that changes that makes no sense to me at all.

 

Raven then came out and took out the guy he was supposed to face in the next match. He then cut a promo saying that he will be the next Heavyweight champion. Monty then came out and they started fighting. This brought Abyss to the ring. They brawled and each guy hit his finisher. Looks like they're setting up a triple threat for Victory Road.

 

(4) Team Canada beat James Storm & Christopher Daniels to become the new NWA Tag Team Champions. Team Canada got the win with a rollup. Really good main event although I don't understand why the titles keep changing hands. It really doesn't make any sense.

 

Due to a prior commitment I was not able to stay for the Xplosion tapings. If someone who stayed for the tapings could send in a report it would be much appreciated.

 

Biggest Pops:

1. The 3 Live Kru

2. A.J. Styles

3. Jeff Hardy

 

Most Heat

1. Team Canada

2. The three guys who were in the match with the 3 Live Kru

 

Notes: This was possibly the hottest crowd that I have ever seen at the tapings. I hope it comes across good on TV. It saddens me to see them going back to the squash format. They seemed to be moving away from that, but they proved me wrong. Another confusing element was their announcement of Scott Hall and Kevin Nash being on different sides. Unless that's just a ruse, I really can't understand that booking logic. Overall a decent show tonight

 

Credit=PWTorch

[snuffbox 0]

At this point, Impact is just about the only wrestling I watch anymore...

 

Provided Im not doing anything else on a Friday afternoon, of course.

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

They're asking how much for this 3 hour catastrophe?

[Guest Donners]

Ah, doom and gloom. It's nice to know some things never change.

 

I like the idea of Hardy in a ladder match. Yes, his first match with Jarrett wasn't great, but he was out of his element trying to wrestle a slower style of match. If he goes all-out here, this could be something memorable, such as his singles match against Taker. Yes, it could also be a trainwreck, but at least they're taking a damned chance.

[2GOLD 0]

So ONE POSSIBLE good match justifies what can be nothing more than a horrible, horrible title reign?

 

The guy could barely do the Abyss match without being winded three minutes in and so HE gets the title shot?

 

It has zero upside. None. It can only be a bad thing.

[slimm44 0]

Well I guarantee Jarrett will gloat about how he won the title in the King of the Mountain match by climbing the ladder. So really it is an even advantage, just look for Hardy to go crazy and jump off the ladder a few DOZEN times.

 

What's up with Hall and Nash? That doesn't make since,

[eirejmcmahon 0]

What's up with Hall and Nash? That doesn't make since,

Sure it does - TNA doesn't want to put them over any of their wrestlers and the only people Hall & Nash will job to are each other.

[bob_barron 0]

Ah, doom and gloom. It's nice to know some things never change.

 

I like the idea of Hardy in a ladder match. Yes, his first match with Jarrett wasn't great, but he was out of his element trying to wrestle a slower style of match. If he goes all-out here, this could be something memorable, such as his singles match against Taker. Yes, it could also be a trainwreck, but at least they're taking a damned chance.

That singles match with Taker was't really memorable. It was just Taker kicking the shit out of him for 20 minutes until Jeff got the miracle comeback.

 

TNA is taking a damned chance with this PPV and it's going to fail miserably.

 

TNA sucks- accept it and move on

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

This was just such a bad move for the PPV. Anyone would've been better than Jeff Hardy. Why not do Jarrett/Raven II? That's been the closest thing that this fed has had to a money feud and maybe they could actually start moving in some direction with Raven as champ.

[Guest Coffey]

...cept for the fact that Hardy is getting ANOTHER shot at the title...in a ladder match.

Which is why I'm now not buying Victory Road. Had it been Raven, Abyss or Monty Brown, I'd have bought the PPV.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Impact actually looks better than normal. Victory Road looks like pure crap.

[TNABaddboi 0]

I know I'm gonna be in the minority here, but since the beginning, everyone fussed about TNA abandoning storylines midstream, which they haven't done here. This Ladder Match has definitely been building since June. Even with the 2 week old tournament storyline, the only other match that would have made much sense considering the last 6 months of TNA storylines would have been a 3-way with Brown.

 

IMO, the set up is there for them to really sell this match, if they just let Hardy talk. He can talk about upping the ante by having his speciality match, and Jarrett can say that he's not afraid since he won the belt in a "ladder" match. He can also bring in Hall to coach him, being that Hall won the first prominent ladder match, and then Hardy can bring in Nash to counteract him (which would explain them being on different sides). Then they have options at the PPV...then can do the predictable swerve and have the Outsiders have been aligned with Jarrett the whole time, with Nash costing Hardy the match or they can have Hardy take the belt (probably not gonna happen). Meanwhile, they can have Monty win the 3 way with Raven and Abyss to set up the next PPV main event.

 

So in Dec, we have Monty getting built up as a monster babyface by going through Hall and Nash to get to Jarrett and take the belt off of him (and getting made in the casual fans eyes by beating the names), while Hardy can feud with Nash in the "impress the marks" feud that is far away from the title (and maybe even do Hardy/Killings vs the Outsiders at the Dec PPV, so that Killings and Nash can carry the workload).

 

All in all, I'm saying that this is a match that TNA can sell based on the gimmick and all the intrigue with what's going to happen with the Outsiders. I don't think this was a bad decision on there part and it definitely is not indicative of them throwing shit at the wall, which they have done for much of their existence. This match has been building for 6 months and it's not an environment we see Jarrett in much, so the marks will think he actually has a chance of losing, kind of like in the cage match with Styles.

 

Monty's time will come soon. I'm almost 100% positive that he will be the one to dethrone Jarrett. But I think TNA made the right move considering the 4 options they set themselves up with and their storylines for the past 4 months.

[2GOLD 0]

The problem is Jeff Hardy makes the Warrior seem rich and intelligient on the mic. He can't talk, he could never talk. Unless you want to hear about Imagi or whatever the hell he starts babbling about.

[Zack Malibu 0]

As much as I dig Monty and they're selling him as their next big thing, I'm pretty sure a PPV headlined by Brown vs. Jarrett would draw less than JJ/Hardy. I don't expect them to set records, but most casual fans (and I only say them because the internet fans have already made up their minds about this PPV one way or another) remember Hardy in more famous ladder matches, and it might pique their curiousity.

 

The PPV CAN take a step in the right direction by putting Brown over in the three way and make him seem like the real deal.

 

Raven/JJ could not have worked this soon. The first matchup got huge buildup and was one of TNA's shining moments. No need to do a hack job on what could once again be a great feud.

 

Another problem is that these "outsiders", be it Hall, Nash, X-Pac and/or DDP (all rumored) are only being advertised as such. It wouldn't lead to many more buys, but at least figure out what their deal is, sign them to it, and start hyping their appearances by mentioning some actual names.

[TNABaddboi 0]

As much as I dig Monty and they're selling him as their next big thing, I'm pretty sure a PPV headlined by Brown vs. Jarrett would draw less than JJ/Hardy. I don't expect them to set records, but most casual fans (and I only say them because the internet fans have already made up their minds about this PPV one way or another) remember Hardy in more famous ladder matches, and it might pique their curiousity.

 

I agree here 100%. The net fans have made up their mind already, IMO. They're either gonna order because of the chance to see AJ and Williams tear down the house or they're not gonna order because JJ and Hardy are headlining. I think TNA is trying to draw new fans to this event.

 

The PPV CAN take a step in the right direction by putting Brown over in the three way and make him seem like the real deal.

 

I agree here again. If Brown goes over here strongly in the second to last match of the big show, he'll seem like a bigger deal then going straight from his steady diet of squash to the main event. Even Goldberg went over Raven for the U.S Belt before they fed Hogan to him.

 

Raven/JJ could not have worked this soon. The first matchup got huge buildup and was one of TNA's shining moments. No need to do a hack job on what could once again be a great feud.

 

I'm with you here too. There is no way Raven/JJ II would have been as effective with only 2 weeks of proper build. The first month was built of 4 months of heat.

 

Another problem is that these "outsiders", be it Hall, Nash, X-Pac and/or DDP (all rumored) are only being advertised as such. It wouldn't lead to many more buys, but at least figure out what their deal is, sign them to it, and start hyping their appearances by mentioning some actual names.

 

I think Jarrett mention Hall and Nash by name on this week's show. We'll have to see though.