Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I was looking at Scott Keith's review of RAW and he said Gene Snitsky may be the next big monster on RAW. Now I know no one gives a fuck about Scott Keith's opinion on this board, but he did make me think. After he destroyed Kane last night, is Gene Snitsky the new big monster on RAW? Or is there someone else like Batista? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 20, 2004 No, they'll fuck something up and cut him off at the knees like everyone else who manages to get over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 No, he'll forget to go to one knee and kiss Triple H's ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 i actually like Snitsky, other thanthe fact that he can't throw a punch...I hope they don't drop the ball with him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 20, 2004 It's pretty bad when people actually consider a Snitsky push something to get excited about. Something tells me that when Mark Henry comes back and those two have a match, someone here will be stoked to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 It's pretty bad when people actually consider a Snitsky push something to get excited about. Something tells me that when Mark Henry comes back and those two have a match, someone here will be stoked to see it. Why? Â The guy's awesome. He may suck in the ring but he ENTERTAINS me and that's all that matters in the end. Â His promos are serious but always make me laugh, he has a great catchphrase and what he did to Kane last night made me feel like a new star had been born. Â The only match I wanted to see last night (unless Benoit won) was Snitsky v. Kane. Â The guy entertains me and I enjoy watching him on TV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 It's pretty bad when people actually consider a Snitsky push something to get excited about. Something tells me that when Mark Henry comes back and those two have a match, someone here will be stoked to see it. I will! Â *gets killed by a smark mob* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Why? Anyone you only like because he's so bad he's good isn't someone I'm going to get into, sorry.  The guy's awesome. He may suck in the ring but he ENTERTAINS me and that's all that matters in the end.  Is there a reason you feel the need to capitalize ENTERTAINS? You have the right to be ENTERTAINED by whatever you want, as long as you don't go mistaking your tastes for something that's actually good.  His promos are serious but always make me laugh,  Which means he's a bad interview.  he has a great catchphrase  Explain to me how a catchphrase is entertaining. How is it fun to hear? How does it make him more desirable to the average viewer?  and what he did to Kane last night made me feel like a new star had been born.  If so, I guess I'll have to give up WWE for good.  The only match I wanted to see last night (unless Benoit won) was Snitsky v. Kane.  Did you actually expect a good match? If not, why did you want to see it?  The guy entertains me and I enjoy watching him on TV  You've already said that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 What is the purpose of jobbing Kane out to the guy though? What happened to him going through Hurricane, Richards, etc first? what the hell did Kane do to deserve this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 20, 2004 When you push a joke as a serious wrestler, you end up turning everyone he beats into a joke as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Exactly. I just didn't expect Kane to be turned into a joke for the third time. (1. HHH, 2. Taker, 3. SNITSKY?!?!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Well it wouldn't be Kane without his bi-annual burial. Not that Kane has actually won a big match in the last 5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 All of this either completes a face turn or HTM was telling the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bottyboy Report post Posted October 20, 2004 "Is there a reason you feel the need to capitalize ENTERTAINS? You have the right to be ENTERTAINED by whatever you want, as long as you don't go mistaking your tastes for something that's actually good." Â Who are you to say what is "good" or not good, to some body else? The guy entertains alot of us, if he doesn't entertain you, that is fine. But don't knock the guys that mark for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LivingLegendGaryColeman 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Exactly. I just didn't expect Kane to be turned into a joke for the third time. (1. HHH, 2. Taker, 3. SNITSKY?!?!) You left out Shane McMahon. Â Although I did throw Shane in there, I don't think it was bad Snitsky won. They need new faces and new heels. Kane is going to make a movie, so someone needs to be there. While I don't agree with the angle, I think it is good to have someone new and fresh and makes it more interesting when it was someone with no hype. He came out of nowhere, figured to be a squash guy and now he is a top heel. Surprising? Yes, but I enjoy that element. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 True, I guess I just feel bad for Jacobs. How much more of a company man can you be without getting a title run? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 20, 2004 No, they'll fuck something up and cut him off at the knees like everyone else who manages to get over. As they should because he's terrible. I don't know why he's even on TV, let alone winning PPV matches over someone like Kane. It's just...sad. Â I don't know how over he is either. ANYONE could've got heat coming out with that baby carriage. We'll see how over he is on the next Raw...since he's fresh off a PPV win over Kane. Â There's so much more deserving talent on the roster. Why bring up some green bastard with no "look" and push him like he's good (when he's not even decent)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I'm still a little disappointed that Trish hasn't tried to give Lita her sympathy over all of this, but I guess she's too busy feeding starving children in Zimbabwe at the moment, and she can only do so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Why? Anyone you only like because he's so bad he's good isn't someone I'm going to get into, sorry.  The guy's awesome. He may suck in the ring but he ENTERTAINS me and that's all that matters in the end.  Is there a reason you feel the need to capitalize ENTERTAINS? You have the right to be ENTERTAINED by whatever you want, as long as you don't go mistaking your tastes for something that's actually good.  His promos are serious but always make me laugh,  Which means he's a bad interview.  he has a great catchphrase  Explain to me how a catchphrase is entertaining. How is it fun to hear? How does it make him more desirable to the average viewer?  and what he did to Kane last night made me feel like a new star had been born.  If so, I guess I'll have to give up WWE for good.  The only match I wanted to see last night (unless Benoit won) was Snitsky v. Kane.  Did you actually expect a good match? If not, why did you want to see it?  The guy entertains me and I enjoy watching him on TV  You've already said that. Loss, I agree with you 100%. By the way for everyone wondering, Rodney Dangerfield used to entertain the shit out of me...........I never ONCE had an inkling to see him wrestle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I sense another "Good" v "Entertaining" and "objective" v "Subjective" debate coming on. Â paging RRR, paging RRR, paging RRR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Explain to me how a catchphrase is entertaining. How is it fun to hear? How does it make him more desirable to the average viewer? Maybe not desirable, but it at least it sets him apart from the rest of the OVW bunch. It's sad when you think about it, but in the short time he's been on Raw, Snitsky's probably more recognizable than both members of La Resistance, and they've been tag champs for months (not that that really means anything anymore). Â As far as the push goes...I've got mixed feelings. On one hand, if it works and he gets over, that's great, because as others have stated, that's one more fresh face thrown into the mix. On the other hand, after all of the bullshit we've heard over the years about how the cream always rises to the top in WWE, for someone like him to basically walk off the street and get the push that he's getting is really a slap in the collective face of a locker room full of people who have been working their asses off for years to little or no reward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 20, 2004 BINGO! I agree that not pushing him if he's over is the wrong decision, but the fact that he's over because they accidentally booked him properly stuns me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Anyone you only like because he's so bad he's good isn't someone I'm going to get into, sorry. Â You don't have to get into him. But I don't even like him b/c he's so bad he's funny. I think he's fun to watch. Â Â Is there a reason you feel the need to capitalize ENTERTAINS? You have the right to be ENTERTAINED by whatever you want, as long as you don't go mistaking your tastes for something that's actually good. Â Oh he sucks in the ring- but he made me care about his match with Kane. And that takes a lot of effort. He entertains me- that's simply why I like him. Â Â Â Â Which means he's a bad interview. Â I disagree. I like his promos about killing Lita's baby and all that. I laugh in the sense that I go 'I can't believe he said that'. I really wanted to see Kane destroy him and kick his ass. The feud drew me in. Â Â Explain to me how a catchphrase is entertaining. How is it fun to hear? How does it make him more desirable to the average viewer? Â It's fun to hear because everytime he says it I laugh and it makes me want to see this feud continue. I missed RAW on Monday and the only thing I wanted to catch on the replay was Snitsky. Â I don't know if it makes him more desirable to the average viewer but my friend who I watch wrestling with loves the Snitsky stuff and always trys to catch him. Â The catchphrase is short, simple and easy to say. Â Â If so, I guess I'll have to give up WWE for good. Â Fair enough. Â Â Â Â Did you actually expect a good match? If not, why did you want to see it? Â I wanted to see it b/c I found the feud interesting and I wanted to see what would happen when the two guys would wrestle. I had no idea who would win and how and that appealed to me. I kind of wanted to see Kane murder him and get revenge but I also wanted to see what Snitsky could do against the Big Red Machine. I didn't expect a ***** classic, but I enjoyed the match as did the people in the bar I was chatting with. Â I'm not saying you have to like him but don't look down on people who do. I really want to see what happens when Kane comes back. And that rarely happens these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I'm just saddened because things get so bad that we're forced to create entertaining scenarios out of how laughably bad the show is, then we have WCW 2.0, and I don't want to relive that. Â That said, if they can make him a star, more power to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I don't mind the Snitsky push. Right now he's in the realm of "cult favorite", probably because he put an end to an absurdly bad storyline. They'll still need some work to sell him as a major part of the show, IMO. Â Slightly off-topic, but am I the only one who thinks the Sean O'Haire evil preacher gimmick would have been perfect for this Lita/Kane deal? He could have targeted them for her becoming pregnant out of wedlock, they do the miscarriage deal, and O'Haire tells them that "no good would have come of that bastard child...but hey, I'm not telling you anything you didn't already know." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I'm just saddened because things get so bad that we're forced to create entertaining scenarios out of how laughably bad the show is, then we have WCW 2.0, and I don't want to relive that. That said, if they can make him a star, more power to them. I understand. I'm just really enjoying his character and I really want to see RAW to see what they do with him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 The reason the guy's over at all is because he's different than all of the other bland "superstars" who've been forced down our throats as of late (see Orton, Randy), and that - coupled with the so insanely awful pregnancy / miscarriage angle - made him something of a guilty pleasure / cult favorite. Of course, now that the WWE has caught onto whatever amount of popularity he does possess, they're going to run him into the ground and in probably three weeks time we'll all be sick of him. Â BTW, does this guy even have a contract? I figured he started out as just some local indy jobber, but has he somehow managed to luck out with a development contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 So the fictional Dead Baby will never be Avenged... and Snitzky will go on to bigger and better things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamoaRowe 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 BTW, does this guy even have a contract? I figured he started out as just some local indy jobber, but has he somehow managed to luck out with a development contract? I would hope so considering that he has a pay-per-view victory over a former WWE Champion in Kane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 He was hired by WWE and sent to OVW this past summer, working there as "Mean" Gene Mondo, the "baby brother" of OVW wrestler Mike Mondo (who is extremely similar in look/size to Crash Holly). Mike's actually gonna be on HEAT against Rodney Mack this week, according to the taping results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites