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Americans Re-Elect George W. Bush

 

George Bush, the most unpopular American President in history outside of the United States, has been re-elected. His re-election says something about the intelligence of the American people, about American arrogance, about American insularity, and America’s obvious desire to openly claim it’s place in the pantheon of imperial powers.

 

How are those of us outside of the United States supposed to react to this news?

 

Prior to 9/11, numerous American administrations were responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands of people in various regions of the world for a variety of pro-American reasons. Freedom was often claimed as the primary reason, which was, of course, one of the justifications given for the invasion of Iraq. It is, I might add, the only justification left of those initially given, as no weapons of mass destruction were found and no connection between Iraq and 9/11 ever existed. Of course, the majority of Americans are completely unfamiliar with the history of their own foreign policy actions, so one can see why they tend to be comfortable living with lies and the liars who tell them.

 

Never the less, nearly 3,000 Americans died on September 11th, an event that allowed a group of individuals to implement one of the most dangerous foreign policy platforms in US history. It also solidified a place in history for a President who has the deaths of 3,000 Americans to thank for rescuing him from historical obscurity. 9/11 outraged Americans, who simply couldn’t believe that anyone in their right mind would attack such a peaceful, freedom loving country. This led to the blind stereotyping of an entire segment of the world’s population, an entire religion, and influenced the American public to back a series of reckless military campaigns which have since cost the lives of 1000+ Americans, and will most likely result in the first military draft since the Vietnam era. (It matters little what President Bush said during stump speeches or the debates prior to the election).

 

As a direct result of America’s knee jerk reaction to lash out after 9/11, thousands of innocent Afghanis have lost their lives. Afghanistan remains in turmoil, governed by a man that was once an advisor to one of the largest oil companies in the US (and has his nose so far up the White House’s ass that he might as well be a West Wing janitor). Of course, such realities don’t deter idiotic American conservatives from blabbering on about how Afghanistan is now free.

 

So is El Salvador, supposedly. Where did 60,000 Salvadorans go before that conclusion was reached? For that matter, how many Guatemalans died after the United States paid for and supported a coup so that they could oust a leader that had the audacity to place the needs of his people before those of an American company?

 

Since the invasion of Iraq, some 16,000+ innocent Iraqis have been killed, (some 100,000 excess Iraqi deaths have occurred since the war began). Is the rest of the world therefore to believe that Iraqi lives are worth less than American lives?

 

If so, then what are Canadian lives worth?

 

The majority of the world believes the United States to be a greater threat to world security than terrorism. What does that say about the re-election of the man that is responsible for producing that opinion? How can the rest of the world not believe that most Americans could care less about their place in the world, who they hurt, or who they step on to ensure that the American way triumphs?

 

I’m afraid, in the years to come, that Osama Bin Laden will be the least of America’s worries.

 

What purpose does the US constitution serve when it protects the liberties of a nation that blindly supports the strong-arming of other people? What point is there in keeping up the illusion that the United States is a land that loves real freedom? If anything , it’s a land that loves itself and nothing more. Indeed, the re-election of George Bush speaks volumes about “true American character”.

 

Prior to this moment I held the American people apart from the actions of their government, believing that if they had the chance to reverse what has been done that they would. Unfortunately, I now find that difficult to do.

 

My children will inherit a more dangerous world because of the outcome of this election. What am I to tell them when they ask why anyone would willingly support such a reckless, tepid, and bigoted man?

 

The outcome of this election has made clear where the majority of the people of the United States stand. Arm in arm with conquest, greed, and selfish insularity. The rest of the world will pay the price for it. So how, exactly, should the rest of the world be feeling today? Like a target?

 

Either you're with us or against us. Mr. Bush would do well to remember that it works both ways.

 

mg

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Wow. Talk about crap. This is lower than your normal "Choice-Whacko Source Article". What, commondreams not have something good enough for you this time?

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I knew Bush could pull it off. :headbang:

 

 

You honestly think DEAN would've faired any better?

 

 

Yes.

 

As do I, actually. He wouldn't have gotten the kids out to vote (they never will, left. Get over it) --- but people actually wanting to vote FOR a guy might have helped.

 

But, what do I know? I only said that rage against Bush isn't going to be enough to win the election.

-=Mike

 

3rded. I hope Dean tries again in 2008, I'll definitely vote for him if I don't approve whoever gets picked to succeed George W.

 

 

Howard > Hilary

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Wow. Talk about crap. This is lower than your normal "Choice-Whacko Source Article". What, commondreams not have something good enough for you this time?

I still love that we're supposed to care that the world hates Bush, but nobody is supposed to care how much we fucking hate Chirac and Schroeder.

-=Mike

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Dean wouldn't have been anywhere near as close as Kerry. This would've been Reagan/Mondale.

 

Speculation, as was my "yes" comment. At least Dean had a fucking spine.

Eh, my theory is like this:

 

Kerry is to Dukakis as Dean is to McGovern as Edwards is to Clinton without Perot as Clark is to McClellen as Kucinich is to The Leprechaun.

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To be fair to the "kids" -- pretty much everyone at my school voted.

 

For Bush.

No doubt influenced by their parental units

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To be fair to the "kids" -- pretty much everyone at my school voted.

 

For Bush.

No doubt influenced by their parental units

Both my parents voted Kerry.

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To be fair to the "kids" -- pretty much everyone at my school voted.

 

For Bush.

No doubt influenced by their parental units

Please.

 

No doubt influenced by a personal conviction. The "sheep" mentality is a stupid fallback point.

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My parents voted for Kerry as well, but I obviously voted for Bush. My brother also voted for Bush.

 

It's safe to say that it's been an interesting time between me and my parents.

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My parents voted for Kerry as well, but I obviously voted for Bush. My brother also voted for Bush

 

Ha I've got you beat. My parents and two sisters both voted for Kerry along with the rest of the aunts, uncles, and cousins, and I was probably the only family member that voted for Bush. Man am I going to Public Enemy #1 at Thanksgiving.

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The reason you hear so much of McCain is because Big Media approves of him. Funny how that happens. Yet, Zell, who is way more of a maverick than John could ever be, didn't get a peep from Big Media until he said he supported Bush...

Probably because Big Media wanted to hide his racist past.

 

I mean, really kkk, if you want to make this guy your hero then go ahead. But I'm honestly glad to say he has no relevance in my party anymore, and that's one down, Byrd to go.

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The reason you hear so much of McCain is because Big Media approves of him. Funny how that happens. Yet, Zell, who is way more of a maverick than John could ever be, didn't get a peep from Big Media until he said he supported Bush...

Probably because Big Media wanted to hide his racist past.

 

I mean, really kkk, if you want to make this guy your hero then go ahead. But I'm honestly glad to say he has no relevance in my party anymore, and that's one down, Byrd to go.

He was actually one of the more racially progressive governors in Georgia.

-=Mike

...But don't let that get in your way. Your side thinks Pickering was a bigot, too, in spite of his long-standing support of civil rights...

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I still love that we're supposed to care that the world hates Bush, but nobody is supposed to care how much we fucking hate Chirac and Schroeder.

    -=Mike

Most my family lives overseas, and I have always defended this country and the principles it stands for when they go on a little holier-than-thou wankfest about America that can start on almost any subject (and I mean ANY, from dollar bills to someone grumbling that Americans talk loud.)

 

After last night's elections, I give up convincing my more distant family that we are not a bunch of bible-reading, NASCAR-watching, war-happy shitheads who are ignorant of our own political system. The PR bruises that we take from here on out, we brought upon ourselves.

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And the world is nothing but weak-willed, surrendering, "Death for Oil" types who have lost any semblance of moral standing.

 

Why shouldn't the world try and defend their stance to us ever?

-=Mike

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To be fair to the "kids" -- pretty much everyone at my school voted.

 

For Bush.

No doubt influenced by their parental units

Please.

 

No doubt influenced by a personal conviction. The "sheep" mentality is a stupid fallback point.

Personal conviction eh? Is this code for "cuz dat's who jaysus wood vote fer" ?

 

Sorry, sorry... I just read a report about the evangelicals and how they secured the vote despite being the least informed of the voting bloc... and I got angry.

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To be fair to the "kids" -- pretty much everyone at my school voted.

 

For Bush.

No doubt influenced by their parental units

Please.

 

No doubt influenced by a personal conviction. The "sheep" mentality is a stupid fallback point.

Personal conviction eh? Is this code for "cuz dat's who jaysus wood vote fer" ?

 

Sorry, sorry... I just read a report about the evangelicals and how they secured the vote despite being the least informed of the voting bloc... and I got angry.

And you just believed the report which had no basis in reality.

 

And you call other ill-informed?

 

Cute.

-=Mike

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The reason you hear so much of McCain is because Big Media approves of him. Funny how that happens. Yet, Zell, who is way more of a maverick than John could ever be, didn't get a peep from Big Media until he said he supported Bush...

Probably because Big Media wanted to hide his racist past.

 

I mean, really kkk, if you want to make this guy your hero then go ahead. But I'm honestly glad to say he has no relevance in my party anymore, and that's one down, Byrd to go.

I'm guessing he was racist because he said gook? Let's not forget the Vietnemese locked him in a block and poked him with sticks.

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I mean, really kkk, if you want to make this guy your hero then go ahead. But I'm honestly glad to say he has no relevance in my party anymore, and that's one down, Byrd to go.

Yawn. We've gone over this before.

 

Whitemilesdavis, Jobber was talking about my n*gga Zell, not McCain...

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And the world is nothing but weak-willed, surrendering, "Death for Oil" types who have lost any semblance of moral standing.

 

Why shouldn't the world try and defend their stance to us ever?

-=Mike

Where exactly do we get off telling the rest of the world how it has to be?

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And the world is nothing but weak-willed, surrendering, "Death for Oil" types who have lost any semblance of moral standing.

 

Why shouldn't the world try and defend their stance to us ever?

            -=Mike

Where exactly do we get off telling the rest of the world how it has to be?

Where the fuck do they get off doing that to us?

-=Mike

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Because they're the fucking rest of the world, and when we stick our nose into their business they have an interest that should be respected as our interest should be respected if the other countries of the world started doing the same to us?

We don't stick our noses in Europe's business. They piss and moan about us regardless.

 

If they can't handle our critique, then they sure as fuck shouldn't criticize us.

 

Let the world try and interfere with us.

-=Mike

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