Guest Ronnie755 Report post Posted November 5, 2004 From the Observer site. --We don't have anymore names right now regarding those being cut by WWE. Morale is horrible, as you can imagine. I don't believe anymore cuts other than the ones already done (which may include people not yet announced but already cut) will be done at this point. I think they are going to send less people on the road to house shows, since they draw so poorly, so as to save on transportation and payoff costs. Because of that, the people who weren't going to be sent on the road were cut. Some of the stories out there, including the idea that the company won't be paying for surgeries for the talent that gets hurt, is total b.s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2004 Who the fuck cares...they've cut some serious crap. "5" more isn't enough. There needs to be like 15 people cut, at least, and them some new independent talent signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violence 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2004 Today about half way through work I started panicing(sp?) and thinking Regal was going to be released... Luckily he wasn't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Picked this one up from Ben Johnson, found it at lordsofpain.net As expected, the 1Wrestling report that WWE will be cutting wrestler surgery fees has been deemed completely false. On that subject, there are also no serious plans to end the roster split. This is the story we first reported, before 1Wrestling's rumor came out to the contrary. While "anything can happen" in WWE, the roster split won't be ending anytime soon. As this website has adequately covered, the cost-cutting will come from the money saved by releasing talent WWE had no further interest in utilizing at the house shows. They will not be seriously cutting into any crucial benefits at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 - The latest word is that up to five more wrestlers and many other developmental talents could be cut soon. WWE has released 10 wrestlers this week already. Credit: PWInsider.com Oh boy...up to FIVE more?! Good bye Cruiserweight division, we hardly knew ye. Rajah said "two more" were cut that haven't been announced yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RHR 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 With all these roster changes and releases....wouldn't it be nice if Vince did the smart thing...sending some money over to TNA a la ECW...let the recent guys go there....and form some decent comptition... Hell....take some of these guys....add in Teddy Hart more often...convince Goldberg, Rikishi, Austin, Kanyon et al to come on over...and TNA might not be too bad if done right.... All it takes is a nice Vince investment... Ryen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted November 6, 2004 TNA must be salivating at the thought of possibly bringing in...well, a bunch of midcarders, but still known talent is known talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Vince giving money to another company is the furthest thing on his mind, right now. Much less a company with JEFF JARRETT as champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Vince giving money to another company is the furthest thing on his mind, right now. Much less a company with JEFF JARRETT as champion. It's interesting that someone mentioned that, as in this week's Observer, Meltzer mentions about how when the company was starting, TNA talked with Vince about secretly funding it, and serving as kind of a "feeder system" for new stars to go to WWE much like ECW. Vince turned it down without much thought. It might have been something to think about though, as WWE biggest problem right now is lack of competition and no stars on the horizon to draw from. Without ECW or WCW around to pick up "already made" stars from, WWE has failed in creating bonofide new ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Vince will never do legitimate business with Jeff and Jerry Jarrett, he hates them. Now, it's obvious that he isn't out to crush TNA, as he easily could have by now, and I think deep down he'd like to see them carve out a niche as a minor league, but that's very different from investing time, money and resources into the promotion. A "feeder" system is a necessity though, which is why I think they should do more with OVW, and wasn't there a rumour a little while ago of west coast and Florida OVW-style developmental leagues starting up? We might be seeing the first steps towards that, with the capital saved from all of these cuts going towards the developmental programs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Uhm, Vince is cutting costs, right? Why would he give money to TNA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DVD Spree Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Without ECW or WCW around to pick up "already made" stars from, WWE has failed in creating bonofide new ones. Remember a few years ago we used to bust on WCW for that? Man, how times change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Can we get this pinned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted November 6, 2004 Meltzer is saying the firing of Madigan is seperate from the cost-cutting, so they'll hire someone in his place. Still waiting for two more I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 7, 2004 I guess they are running low in a Billion dollar company. Maybe Vince should devote himself to wrestling then, and not movies, or Football, or Bodybuilding, or any other crazy venture to try to make his company mainstream, even though just being a Wrestling fed was in of itself gotten into the Main stream.... twice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banders Kennany Report post Posted November 7, 2004 I hope we know the new firings soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2004 With all these roster changes and releases....wouldn't it be nice if Vince did the smart thing...sending some money over to TNA a la ECW...let the recent guys go there....and form some decent comptition... Hell....take some of these guys....add in Teddy Hart more often...convince Goldberg, Rikishi, Austin, Kanyon et al to come on over...and TNA might not be too bad if done right.... All it takes is a nice Vince investment... Ryen Rikishi? Get lost.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Star 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2004 I feel bad for A-Train and Rico....they were good. And i never thought Test would get fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2004 I wouldn't be shocked to see Grenier get canned as soon as La Res lose the tag titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 8, 2004 I feel bad for A-Train and Rico....they were good. And i never thought Test would get fired. The "Friends with Shane" Umbrella must have been busted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 9, 2004 Shane has no pull anymore so he couldn't save Test anyways and he couldn't save Blackman either. I'm glad HHH has control...His friends...HBK and Orton (can at least go)...Shane's? Test and Blackman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Evolution Report post Posted November 9, 2004 I'm glad HHH has control...His friends...HBK and Orton (can at least go)...Shane's? Test and Blackman. Hey, I liked Blackman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoRisk 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2004 Speaking of Blackman...isn't he still under contract? I've heard one of the two unannounced cuts is someone who hasn't been used in a while (don't know if it's *true*, just saying that's what I've heard somewhere), and if that's the case...we've got Blackman, Steiner, Ultimo, and...Linda Miles? I could be wrong on some of those still being under contract, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2004 Blackman was let go a long while back. Edit: As was Steiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2004 I've heard one of the two unannounced cuts is someone who hasn't been used in a while (don't know if it's *true*, just saying that's what I've heard somewhere), and if that's the case...we've got Blackman, Steiner, Ultimo, and...Linda Miles? I could be wrong on some of those still being under contract, though. Isn't Ultimo Dragon due to comeback to WWE soon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crippler Crossface 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2004 LOL... Guttman's got a great spoof of where the WWE firings are now working up at PWTorch in case anyone's interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 9, 2004 Various Sources] - Many say that Rico is by far the most shocking release out of everyone that WWE released over the past little while. One well placed source within WWE said “Rico is a great guy, and a natural worker. I cannot understand the reasoning behind letting him go. He’s so much better than some of the other guys on the roster.” Rico always arrived on time for shows, never complained about anything or anyone, and was praised by management since his debut in 2002. - Apparently, all of the recent WWE releases were done over the phone. They were told about their firings by John “Ace” Laurinaitis. Many within WWE believe that they should have been told in person about their job losses, and not over the phone. This coming from steveswrestling.com Now if thats is true, that is a bitter pill, WCW did that to Stunning Steve. If it was a Main eventer they were heave hoing, there would be a candle light dinner, a night on the town and Vince n Company saying a tearful goodbye and promising profusely that they will rehire them... but nooo mid and low carders Ring Ring.. Hey so n so, You are the weakest link......... Goodbye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2004 Many say that Rico is by far the most shocking release out of everyone that WWE released over the past little while. One well placed source within WWE said “Rico is a great guy, and a natural worker. I cannot understand the reasoning behind letting him go. He’s so much better than some of the other guys on the roster.” Rico always arrived on time for shows, never complained about anything or anyone, and was praised by management since his debut in 2002. And he also signs for everyone and anyone. Did they just read this thread when posting that on their news site? I mean, including myself and the majority of the website, we've said the exact same thing about Rico. Almost word for word. By the way...they let Linda Miles go a few months ago. She went back to OVW and got into it with a bunch of people and that was it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterberg is God 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2004 According to PWInsider.com, WWE has released developmental talent Desmond Thompson, best known as Lamont. You may remember him appearing on Smackdown late last year as a butler to introduce Ernest "The Cat" Miller in segments and vignettes. When Miller was released back in February, Lamont was kept under contract to WWE. He continued working as Morris in OVW. He signed a developmental deal with WWE in November 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites