A Poem I Wrote About The Storming Of Fallujah

[Guest MikeSC]

And you're assuming conservatives just LOVE war.

I don't know that that's true, but when I think of Nixon, I think of Vietnam. When I think of Reagan, I think of the Cold War. When I think of George HW Bush, I think of the Gulf War. When I think of our current President, I think of the war in Iraq. I don't think of war when I think of Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter.

In the cases of Nixon and Reagan, they INHERITED wars and managed to do a bang-up job of actually ending them. The problem is --- we were at war under Clinton. He just chose to ignore it, let it fester, and it became a much bigger problem.

 

Ask ANY member of the military: They do not train because they love the idea of war. They HATE war and train in the hopes that they never have to use their training.

 

And, to be blunt, you can easily lay the entire rise of Islamofascist terrorism at Carter's feet for not helping the Shah.

We're fighting because the options don't exist. We tried ignoring Islamofascism and suffered for it.

Then, let's go where the Islamofascists are. They aren't in Iraq. They're in Afghanistan. We have absolutely no business in Iraq. Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. NOTHING.

You actually think they're only in Afghanistan?

 

Iraq TRAINED these people. Iraq gave money to these people.

 

And a democracy in Iraq is only going to hurt the Iranian theocracy.

 

You are not looking at the big picture here.

We're fighting --- so our kids won't have to.

          -=Mike

The same thing was said during Vietnam, and their children are fighting in this war. If things keep going the way they are, it's possible that two generations of family could end up serving in Iraq.

And if we don't fight this now, we'll be seeing 9/11 events occurring with considerably more frequency.

-=Mike

[Vyce 0]

You are not looking at the big picture here.

I'm as shocked as you are.

[NoCalMike 0]

So, NoCal, has your buddy cussed you out yet?...

LOL, no, but I did tell him that poem would kind of be a weird "first post" and that I hope he didn't get labeled a gimmick poster because of it. Oh well, the expected people criticized it, and I am sure he will survive.

[Guest Fire and Knives]

I realize that it has been mentioned that the poem is bad, but I think it is worth reiterating.

 

That poem sucks.

 

K.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Oh well, the expected people criticized it...

You mean everybody?

 

When a few people that I personally knew started posting here, I gave a brief description of a number of posters...

[Guest MikeSC]

Oh well, the expected people criticized it...

You mean everybody?

 

When a few people that I personally knew started posting here, I gave a brief description of a number of posters...

Oooh, what did you say?

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

None of your business, although I did tell them not to expect to get the last word in on you...

[Guest MikeSC]

None of your business, although I did tell them not to expect to get the last word in on you...

Bastard.

-=Mike

[godthedog 0]

A poem I wrote that was inspired by a poem wrote about the storming of Fallujah

 

I smell it in the air

I see it in the stars

But that poem about Fallujah

Looks worse than what comes out of my arse

 

Look at all the liberal hippies

That declare that war is hell

Why we should have let Hitler run through Europe

Im sure that would have been swell

 

What many people fail to see

Is that war is a neccesity

To ensure that people all around the world

Are granted the same freedoms as you and me

 

That's all i can be bothered dong now

not that it matters, but this was far worse than the original poem. you should've just gone for the straight-up satire and not tried to put in any new ideas.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

None of your business, although I did tell them not to expect to get the last word in on you...

Bastard.

-=Mike

Sorry...

[Vyce 0]

I hope he didn't get labeled a gimmick poster because of it.

If by "gimmick poster" you mean "complete tool", you're too late.

[Prime Time Andrew Doyle 0]

A poem I wrote that was inspired by a poem wrote about the storming of Fallujah

 

I smell it in the air

I see it in the stars

But that poem about Fallujah

Looks worse than what comes out of my arse

 

Look at all the liberal hippies

That declare that war is hell

Why we should have let Hitler run through Europe

Im sure  that would have been swell

 

What many people fail to see

Is that war is a neccesity

To ensure that people all around the world

Are granted the same freedoms as you and me

 

That's all i can be bothered dong now

not that it matters, but this was far worse than the original poem. you should've just gone for the straight-up satire and not tried to put in any new ideas.

I was originally just gonna go with the first verse, but than I was bored so I kept on going

[Guest MikeSC]

None of your business, although I did tell them not to expect to get the last word in on you...

Bastard.

-=Mike

Sorry...

I don't belive that.

-=Mike

[MrRant 0]

Oh well, the expected people criticized it...

You mean everybody?

 

When a few people that I personally knew started posting here, I gave a brief description of a number of posters...

So that is why everyone thinks I'm a racist.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

You think you're worthy for me to "warn" new posters about? Hippie.

 

I don't belive that.

-=Mike

 

Belive it.

 

You can also believe it, too...

[Guest SP-1]

Can you name one 'good' war in the history of the world? War isn't good. People aren't good. Both are inherently selfish and the former comes from the latter.

 

When the Mongols had most of the world held hostage from the back of a horse. That was fuckin' awesome.

I've got to agree with you here. The Mongols were like Elves. Only Asian and real.

[Guest keelebasa]

So, let's see here. . . so far all replies directed exactly toward me have either called me names such as 'hippie' or 'liberal' (I'm neither!) or criticized my poem's literary value but not its merits (As a published poet over a dozen times my heart pains exactly zero at those 'critiques!') with the exception of one.

 

Mad Dog,

 

There's all the difference in the world between 'good war' and 'necessary war.' The two wars you cited, American Revolutionary and World War II, were necessary wars. Were they good wars? I think not, for previously stated reasons.

 

Mike (that would be NoCal),

 

The absence of intellect and maturity in this forum surprises even me. Oh, and that sentence doesn't have a target audience, so if you're personally offended by it you're either moronic, childish or both.

[Guest MikeSC]

You think you're worthy for me to "warn" new posters about? Hippie.

 

I don't belive that.

-=Mike

 

Belive it.

 

You can also believe it, too...

I can't believe that.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

(As a published poet over a dozen times my heart pains exactly zero at those 'critiques!') with the exception of one.

Ohhhh, big fucking deal. I've had my hippie poems published, too, and some of them still haven't been washed away in various public bathroom stalls in southwestern Pa.

 

Mike (that would be NoCal), The absence of intellect and maturity in this forum surprises even me.

 

You didn't warn him in advance?!

 

Oh, and that sentence doesn't have a target audience, so if you're personally offended by it you're either moronic, childish or both.

 

I like him, NoCal, reminds me a bit of Wildbomb's early days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't believe that.

-=Mike

 

And don't think I forgot about you, hippie...

[Guest BDC]

Okay, you want a real, honest critique? It does suck. You're basically just regurgitating anti war protests with a little bit of (bad) imagery and expecting people to love it. Let's not forget the delusions you have in there (the innocents in Fallujah have evacuated) and nevermind the fact that it TAKES THE SIDE of the insurgents. Why is this bad? Because we have troops over there while whiny hippy tripe like this is being tossed around in the name of "justice" and frankly, I am so damn sick of it I can't see straight.

 

There, you happy yet?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Uh-oh.

 

Tom is now reading this topic. I have a bad feeling about this thread's life.

 

If so, then ha-ha -- I got the last word on Mike...

[Dr. Tom 0]

(As a published poet over a dozen times my heart pains exactly zero at those 'critiques!') with the exception of one.

I've had poems published, too. Here's the reality: 1. it doesn't matter, 2. most places that publish poetry take anything they get, and 3. there's no money in it. While I've had some of my poems published, I don't think I'm the next coming of Robert Browning, or even Philip Levine, and I certainly wouldn't waste whatever talent I have for verse writing some hippie protest about a war.

[Slayer 0]

4. It's f'king poetry...

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Let's see another poem. This one ruled.

[Guest Loss]

Roses are red

Violets are blue

Fallujah has been bombed

The sky is still blue

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Loss for poet-laureate. Use more Ice Cube lyrics.

[Guest Loss]

Damnit. Now I'm trying to think of something to the tune of "Today Was A Good Day" and I'm failing miserably.

[Guest Cerebus]

Could this be the worst thread we've had in CE in recent memory?

[Guest Loss]

Well, if it wasn't before, it is now. All it needs is a cryptic title, a la Mike, and it could probably hold top honors for the rest of time.

[Downhome 0]

Don't get too big of a head. I'm pretty sure anyone who ever wants a poem they write to get "published" can do just that. I mean, for the love of God, even I did so years ago.