Downhome Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Ok, just Greenville county, but still. Yep, no one uses bad profanity in the real world, at work, or in other aspects of their real life, not at all. You can't be the Vice-President or anything like that, really! I can't express how fucking stupid I think this is, it makes me ashamed to live near Greenville. How is trying to stop profanity of any kind going to help anything? Do any of the schools around you enforce something like this as much as they say they are going to do so? This all reminds me of South Park. I want someone to explain something to me. People use profanity to express certain emotions. If someone wants to express the exact same emotions, only using differt words like "golly gee, criminy dutch, and holy comoly", isn't it pretty much the same? That's my take on it. http://www.local6.com/news/3907902/detail....0111122004&ts=H Schools Declared Profanity-Free Zones Punishments Vary By Word Used POSTED: 2:43 pm EST November 10, 2004 UPDATED: 4:26 pm EST November 11, 2004 GREENVILLE, S.C. -- In an environment of learning words and their meanings, certain words are no longer welcome in Greenville County schools. The Greenville County School Board voted Tuesday night to make all the district's schools into profanity-free zones. "Some people might think it is petty to deal with an issue like this, but it is something that promotes safety," Wade Hampton High School Principal Bill Utsey said. The board made the move in an effort to prevent fights and negative feelings in general. "There needs to be a kinder society, a more respectful culture in the school," Utsey said. "You can't use it in the real world, I don't think you should use it in school. You can't use it and go out into the world and make a professional living," senior T.J. Williams said. "If they use profanity in my class, they are going to write a one-page paper as to why it is inappropriate and list other words they could use in place of that," teacher Kristen Belflower said. Utsey said that punishment for using obscenities will range from a trip to his office to a suspension. The district said there won't be a list of words that are off limits, though some words will bring an automatic suspension. "No one should need a list to know what words to use, not to use. That's why we are in school, to get an education," senior Miguel Ruiz said. Utsey said that if a student feels a need to curse, he or she can make something up like he does. "My biggest words here are 'golly gee', 'criminy dutch', 'holy comoly,'" he said. Sincerely, ...Downhome...
Highland Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 "There needs to be a kinder society, a more respectful culture in the school," Utsey said. "You can't use it in the real world, I don't think you should use it in school. You can't use it and go out into the world and make a professional living," I can't wait until they step out of the bubble of that school and into the real world and get stepped on because they have no idea how to deal with the real world and all it's "negativity".
Chuck Woolery Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 I think you're exaggerating far too much here, Downhome. It's not like the words aren't taboo in public anyway, so people are trying to teach kids that the words aren't cool for use in a public school, where you're surrounded by other people who may or may not want to hear that. They're not saying it's bad period and that you can't use it in private, just don't say it in a public place.
treble Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Since when were you allowed to swear in school in the first place?
CanadianChick Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Since when were you allowed to swear in school in the first place? Since teachers have become pushovers and don't punish kids who do. I go to a Catholic school, and people swear around teachers all the time.
Downhome Posted November 13, 2004 Author Report Posted November 13, 2004 Maybe it was just where I went to school then. No one got in trouble for using profanity, as long as it wasn't directed towards a teacher or anything like that. In normal conversation, people would say whatever, around teachers and to teachers, and never once did they ever say anything about it. It isn't like it was an epidemic either, I really don't think it's bad enough to straight up make a rule banning it from all conversation in schools.
Guest Shutterspeed Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 I bet that principal goes home every night to his flat and downs a bottle of swish.
Guest Chris2005 Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 I can understand the school not wanting the kids to curse while in school. Hell I was just in a library the other day and kids were cursing and using racial swears. There is a time and a place for everything and school is not a place to curse. People should have a little bit more respect while they are in public and how people view them. On the other hand though cursing really doesn't even mean anything. What the hell is fuck supposed to mean? What about shit? Is it anymore worse than poop or crap? What about cunt is it worse than pussy and vagina? I really feel that racial swears should not be used in schools but curses used as adjectives really dont mean anything. I hope that this school understands where kids learn curse words. It isn't on tv or on the radio. It is at home by their parents and older siblings.
Guest Shutterspeed Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 I can understand the school not wanting the kids to curse while in school. Hell I was just in a library the other day and kids were cursing and using racial swears. There is a time and a place for everything and school is not a place to curse. People should have a little bit more respect while they are in public and how people view them. On the other hand though cursing really doesn't even mean anything. What the hell is fuck supposed to mean? What about shit? Is it anymore worse than poop or crap? What about cunt is it worse than pussy and vagina? I really feel that racial swears should not be used in schools but curses used as adjectives really dont mean anything. I hope that this school understands where kids learn curse words. It isn't on tv or on the radio. It is at home by their parents and older siblings. Designated words obviously amplify their meaning. These words are deemed "inappropriate", and that is why you and I gain more satisfaction from saying "fuck" than "poopy". Your second paragraph is idiotic. You're saying that kids don't hear swearing on television? Are you drunk?
CanadianChick Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Well, certainly not fuck. Movies, yes. TV? Not so much.
Guest Shutterspeed Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 A lot of the words that they're prohibiting at that school could still be heard on TV. And that's just free-to-air.
godthedog Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Since when were you allowed to swear in school in the first place? i was thinking this too. i'm shocked that something like this wasn't in effect before the year 2004, especially in the south.
Guest Chris2005 Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Your second paragraph is idiotic. You're saying that kids don't hear swearing on television? Are you drunk? Are you blind?????? I said kids learn curses at home. Usually most parents regulate what young children watch on tv. And how many curses do you hear on daytime tv? I said kids learn curses from their parents and older siblings.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Well gee golly gosh darn it.
Guest Shutterspeed Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 I'm blind? You might wanna reread the article, because the school in question is a high school. I don't know of any high school students whose parents regulate what they watch. And being assumptious as to when and where they watch television in this situation is just moronic. I first learnt curses from the television. So did most, probably. If it's the parents and older siblings that are the bad influence, then that's even less reason for this rule, because that can't be regulated. Apparently.
Rob E Dangerously Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 *files this under "tough shit"*
The Czech Republic Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Your second paragraph is idiotic. You're saying that kids don't hear swearing on television? Are you drunk? Are you blind?????? I said kids learn curses at home. Usually most parents regulate what young children watch on tv. And how many curses do you hear on daytime tv? I said kids learn curses from their parents and older siblings. I hear "bitch" and "slut" a lot on my stories.
Art Sandusky Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Anyone who lives in South Carolina is totally not surprised at where this story originated. I love living in the only civilized part of the state.
IllustriousOne Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 DH, Greenville IS the home of Bob Jones University, where all the girls wear are jean skirts and spring colored shirts. You can't be TOO surprised.
theintensifier Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 "What's the big Fucking deal Bitch, Fuck Fuckity Fuck Fuck"
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 What do you mean you can't curse in public?
Guest Shutterspeed Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Teachers at school are very lenient when it comes to cursing. Unless it's really bad and/or necessary, they won't pull a student up. If the student is speaking with the teacher, too, and not to them when they say it, they'll rarely acknowledge it.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 You can't use it in the real world, I don't think you should use it in school. You can't use it and go out into the world and make a professional living The president of the US said asshole into a microphone.
Guest Loss Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 There's a time and place for everything. People who get caught up in absolutes bug me.
Tawren Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Teachers at school are very lenient when it comes to cursing. Unless it's really bad and/or necessary, they won't pull a student up. If the student is speaking with the teacher, too, and not to them when they say it, they'll rarely acknowledge it. What kind of school did you go to? Seriously. That isn't rhetorical. At my school, swearing was not tolerated and the teachers were assholes about it.
The Czech Republic Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 By junior year of high school, teacher and student alike could swear in heated class discussion. This was limited to the social studies department however, because they were the coolest teachers, minus the music directors. Everything but the f-bomb was in play, within reason. EDIT: Okay maybe not, because "cunt" and "cocksucker" would've been flagrant fouls. But I got away with "hell," "damn," "crap," "shit," "asshole," "jackass," "dumbass," "bitching and whining," "pissing and moaning," and "pissed off." My psychology teacher used "dildo," "vibrator," and "dickhead."
DerangedHermit Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 Students were heard saying "Fuck these motherfucking motherfuckers with a fucking shit-covered cock!"
Guest Banders Kennany Posted November 13, 2004 Report Posted November 13, 2004 You should be able to swear when you want, who you want and how you want. Except if you're swearing off your mother. That's the kind of garbage I can't stand.
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