The OAO Survivor Series 2004 Thread

[Guest LooneyTune]

The Rumble has been predictable every year since 1999 (1997 if you think like Russo). That kinda makes it useless.

No it doesn't.

 

I match can be good even if you KNOW who's going to win. If not, why would you ever watch a match more than once?

How come one person has to win the Rumble to get a WM Title shot, and the next month all someone has to do is simply win a regular match (or in last years case, just insult mexicans)? It makes it meaningless that 1 person has to win the rumble, and the other person can do nothing and get a title shot.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

Steve Keirn (or is it Kiern) is a road agent...I hope he doesn't come back, considering he's famous for being SKINNER (and that guy who teamed with Stan Lane)

I forgot about that... Damn... on a side note... he came down to Memphis last week for a 6-man tag. Lawler & Rock n' Roll Express vs. Stan Lane & Steve Kiern (Fabulous Ones) and announcer COrey Maclin. Negative stars of course...

Holy shit.......are you serious?

 

Why not throw The Midnight Express and Freebirds in there also?

yeah. Last month, they had Terry Funk, Kamala, Koko B. Ware, Grandmaster Sexay, Rikishi, Mordecai, King Mabel, and Lawler all on one show.

 

THe main event was Terry Funk & Corey Maclin (They love main eventing shitty announcers in Memphis these days, this guy has no fucking talent) vs. Lawler and Jimmy Hart (yes, the vermin lives).

 

Hell... if ya'll would want me too... I could recap Memphis wrestling every week for the hell of it.

I didn't even know Koko B. Ware was still alive

 

Sounds like some disgustingly horrible wrestling action

Koko is running around shocking people with a tazer gun. He's actually not doing too bad. Kid Kash is there too... so there is something good at least. And Bill Dundee still wrestles here too... and by wrestles, I mean barely moves and lets the other person wrestle himself.

 

I gotta recap this stuff one day.... next week... Muggy presents Memphis Wrestling.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

So, they build up Heidenreich just for him to lose cleanly in his 1st PPV match?

 

Well it is Undertaker. Come on now.

[JoeDirt 0]

So, they build up Heidenreich just for him to lose cleanly in his 1st PPV match?

I think the reasoning is that Heidenreich is a failure, so they had Taker end the experiment.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Oh and HHH and Batista hadn't had anything to do with each other till a week before the match was made?

 

Nice.

[Guest The Shadow Behind You]

I propose they stay, if the writers know how to fucking book them. I say let RAW keep them and not Smackdown, considering two years straight the SD one has sucked balls or was super rushed.

Both shows did the same thing

 

1. Pick eight or ten random people, some of which have no issue whatsoever

 

2. Align them along heel and face lines, some creating absurdly stupid teams.

 

3. In the case of Raw, add a stupid ass stipulation to get people to care at all.

Except the people on RAW were aligned and DID have an issue.

Not until the build had already started.

 

Orton, Jericho, benoit and Maven (ugh) had absolutely nothing to do with each other until a week before the match was made.

 

Ditto Evolution and Edge or Snitsky

for two weeks; The faces were putting pressure on HHH and Evolution, So there's the alliance they had.

 

The only unaligned person is Snitsky, and his presence was explained by Bischoff.

[Guest Phenom]

0-4.

 

What the fuck's wrong with me?

[Guest Anglesault]

The Rumble has been predictable every year since 1999 (1997 if you think like Russo). That kinda makes it useless.

No it doesn't.

 

I match can be good even if you KNOW who's going to win. If not, why would you ever watch a match more than once?

How come one person has to win the Rumble to get a WM Title shot, and the next month all someone has to do is simply win a regular match (or in last years case, just insult mexicans)? It makes it meaningless that 1 person has to win the rumble, and the other person can do nothing and get a title shot.

Last year Eddie had to win a mini-Rumble, so it wasn't so bad.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

The Rumble has been predictable every year since 1999 (1997 if you think like Russo). That kinda makes it useless.

No it doesn't.

 

I match can be good even if you KNOW who's going to win. If not, why would you ever watch a match more than once?

How come one person has to win the Rumble to get a WM Title shot, and the next month all someone has to do is simply win a regular match (or in last years case, just insult mexicans)? It makes it meaningless that 1 person has to win the rumble, and the other person can do nothing and get a title shot.

That doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about.

 

At all.

[Exslade ZX 0]

The Rumble has been predictable every year since 1999 (1997 if you think like Russo). That kinda makes it useless.

No it doesn't.

 

I match can be good even if you KNOW who's going to win. If not, why would you ever watch a match more than once?

How come one person has to win the Rumble to get a WM Title shot, and the next month all someone has to do is simply win a regular match (or in last years case, just insult mexicans)? It makes it meaningless that 1 person has to win the rumble, and the other person can do nothing and get a title shot.

Yea..but the RR winner gets the Main event slot.

 

And as we all know that's supposed to be the 'most special thing ever' to any wrestler...so yea.

 

Even though...then you have guys like HBK who did nothing, and just sort of put himself in the ME...but yea.

[LooseCannon25 0]

Steve Keirn (or is it Kiern) is a road agent...I hope he doesn't come back, considering he's famous for being SKINNER (and that guy who teamed with Stan Lane)

I forgot about that... Damn... on a side note... he came down to Memphis last week for a 6-man tag. Lawler & Rock n' Roll Express vs. Stan Lane & Steve Kiern (Fabulous Ones) and announcer COrey Maclin. Negative stars of course...

Holy shit.......are you serious?

 

Why not throw The Midnight Express and Freebirds in there also?

yeah. Last month, they had Terry Funk, Kamala, Koko B. Ware, Grandmaster Sexay, Rikishi, Mordecai, King Mabel, and Lawler all on one show.

 

THe main event was Terry Funk & Corey Maclin (They love main eventing shitty announcers in Memphis these days, this guy has no fucking talent) vs. Lawler and Jimmy Hart (yes, the vermin lives).

 

Hell... if ya'll would want me too... I could recap Memphis wrestling every week for the hell of it.

I didn't even know Koko B. Ware was still alive

 

Sounds like some disgustingly horrible wrestling action

Koko is running around shocking people with a tazer gun. He's actually not doing too bad. Kid Kash is there too... so there is something good at least. And Bill Dundee still wrestles here too... and by wrestles, I mean barely moves and lets the other person wrestle himself.

 

I gotta recap this stuff one day.... next week... Muggy presents Memphis Wrestling.

Besides Kid Kash (Who I like) is there any actual good talent there?

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Maven might be taken out according to Bischoff. And NO replacement.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

...I have a feeling that Maven is getting replaced by either Kane or HBK.

 

Whichever one of the two is less injured.

[LooseCannon25 0]

So, they build up Heidenreich just for him to lose cleanly in his 1st PPV match?

I think the reasoning is that Heidenreich is a failure, so they had Taker end the experiment.

But, they haven't even really given him much of a chance.....at least have him lay Taker out or something after the match.

[Guest LooneyTune]

The Rumble has been predictable every year since 1999 (1997 if you think like Russo). That kinda makes it useless.

No it doesn't.

 

I match can be good even if you KNOW who's going to win. If not, why would you ever watch a match more than once?

How come one person has to win the Rumble to get a WM Title shot, and the next month all someone has to do is simply win a regular match (or in last years case, just insult mexicans)? It makes it meaningless that 1 person has to win the rumble, and the other person can do nothing and get a title shot.

That doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about.

 

At all.

Did it have to? I'm just pointing out it's been years since the Rumble match has actually meant something. It doesn't stop WWE from going with what works for casual fans, much like the Survivor Series match, otherwise the PPV would've been discontinued years afo.

[strummer 0]

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

[JoeDirt 0]

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

Yep.

[Exslade ZX 0]

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

Yep.

Nope.

 

 

Nah..bad joke..or something like that.

 

Yep.

[LooseCannon25 0]

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

Yep.

I'll be shocked if that's NOT what happens....Otherwise what the hell was the point of putting this guy in a main event spot?

[JoeDirt 0]

Keller gave the Taker match *3/4.

 

And it went 16:00??????

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

The Rumble has been predictable every year since 1999 (1997 if you think like Russo). That kinda makes it useless.

No it doesn't.

 

I match can be good even if you KNOW who's going to win. If not, why would you ever watch a match more than once?

How come one person has to win the Rumble to get a WM Title shot, and the next month all someone has to do is simply win a regular match (or in last years case, just insult mexicans)? It makes it meaningless that 1 person has to win the rumble, and the other person can do nothing and get a title shot.

That doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about.

 

At all.

Did it have to?

If you're gonna quote my post, then, yeah it should.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

Yep.

I'll be shocked if that's NOT what happens....Otherwise what the hell was the point of putting this guy in a main event spot?

Bait and switch.

 

Make the fans more excited when they replace Maven with someone like Kane or HBK.

 

THat's my prediction, anyway.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

Yep.

I'll be shocked if that's NOT what happens....Otherwise what the hell was the point of putting this guy in a main event spot?

Because Shawn Michaels is injured, Kane is doing a movie, and Maven is home grown.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

Steve Keirn (or is it Kiern) is a road agent...I hope he doesn't come back, considering he's famous for being SKINNER (and that guy who teamed with Stan Lane)

I forgot about that... Damn... on a side note... he came down to Memphis last week for a 6-man tag. Lawler & Rock n' Roll Express vs. Stan Lane & Steve Kiern (Fabulous Ones) and announcer COrey Maclin. Negative stars of course...

Holy shit.......are you serious?

 

Why not throw The Midnight Express and Freebirds in there also?

yeah. Last month, they had Terry Funk, Kamala, Koko B. Ware, Grandmaster Sexay, Rikishi, Mordecai, King Mabel, and Lawler all on one show.

 

THe main event was Terry Funk & Corey Maclin (They love main eventing shitty announcers in Memphis these days, this guy has no fucking talent) vs. Lawler and Jimmy Hart (yes, the vermin lives).

 

Hell... if ya'll would want me too... I could recap Memphis wrestling every week for the hell of it.

I didn't even know Koko B. Ware was still alive

 

Sounds like some disgustingly horrible wrestling action

Koko is running around shocking people with a tazer gun. He's actually not doing too bad. Kid Kash is there too... so there is something good at least. And Bill Dundee still wrestles here too... and by wrestles, I mean barely moves and lets the other person wrestle himself.

 

I gotta recap this stuff one day.... next week... Muggy presents Memphis Wrestling.

Besides Kid Kash (Who I like) is there any actual good talent there?

well, they have this young guy by the name of Johnny Dotson. I know ya'll have never heard of him probably. He's about as big as the Amazing Red (FUCKING SKINNY, but he's got some muscle though). The crowd really likes him for some reason. He can do some nice flying stuff. Derrick King ya'll might have heard of, very solid wrestler. Shock is a solid power guy (he used to Phatasia or something like that in the WWF before he actually got credibility). Kinda looks like Scott Steiner if Stenier dyed his hair back to black and had SOME talent.

 

I'll explain more about the others when I recap it. But you gotta realize... it's the south. It's Memphis. You guys should know the deal about that shit around here.

[Downhome 0]

Why did they DQ Lita for hitting a table with a chair two times???

[Guest Anglesault]

Oh and HHH and Batista hadn't had anything to do with each other till a week before the match was made?

 

Nice.

Uhm, didn't say that.

 

for two weeks; The faces were putting pressure on HHH and Evolution, So there's the alliance they had.

 

Yeah, the alliance was formed a week before the match was made. They were just four guys before that. Jericho and Maven specifically had almost no issue with Evolution before that. Snitsky was inserted to fill out a match.

 

When you have to start reaching to insert people in matches, to the point where you bring in people that had no issue until the week before the match is announced (Smackdown was horrifically bad here.) you need to rethink the need to go "OLD SKEWL"

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Lita lost the match already due to a DQ with the chairshot.

 

Maven does a run in and turns on the face team, and we have a new member of Evolution

 

And no one would care.

 

 

 

I think Trish's nose is broken. She's hardcore!

[LooseCannon25 0]

Lita misses the chair shots by about 12 feet....and, oh my goodness, Trish's hair is bleeding!!!!!

[Repo Man jr 0]

Lita Shamrock is killing Trish. No match

[slimm44 0]

0-4.

 

What the fuck's wrong with me?

you lack common sense...lol ust a joke. But come on, Undertaker wouldn't lose against Heidenreich at an event where he debuted. Don't feel bad tho, I thought Christian, Chavo and Angle would win