Atlantis has supposedly been found

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Acropolis of lost Atlantis 'found' in eastern Med

 

Nov 16 2004

 

Western Mail

 

 

AN AMERICAN architect's claim to have discovered Atlantis at the bottom of the east Mediterranean Sea was yesterday greeted with scepticism.

 

Robert Sarmast, 38, from Los Angeles, said, "We have definitely found the Acropolis of Atlantis."

 

He has reported that his sonar scanning of the seabed between east Cyprus and Syria has revealed man-made walls - one as long as two miles.

 

Mr Sarmast is convinced this site, 50 miles south-east of Cyprus, is the remains of the mythical civilisation described by the Greek philosopher Plato.

 

He said, "It is a miracle we found these walls as their location and lengths match exactly the description of the acropolis of Atlantis provided by Plato in his writings."

 

Dr Louis Rawlings, lecturer in Ancient History at Cardiff University, believes the Atlantis Plato described was an invention of his imagination.

 

"In the context of trying to work out what would be an ideal constitution and state he invented this place called Atlantis and set a number of stories there. Somehow, some people have taken this literally, which I find quite fascinating."

 

Now that satellite technology has allowed the world to be mapped in minutes, Dr Rawlings believes there is a human hunger to discover lost civilisations.

 

"I think it's an exercise in naivety but it's got an enduring appeal. I think Atlantis falls in that universal desire to know the unknown."

 

One possible source of the Atlantis myth, he said, was the explosion of the Aegean island of Thera in the 17th century BC. This is a devastated Minoan civilisation and it is "possible but implausible" that Plato would have heard accounts of this disaster.

 

Sarmast, 38, is an architect by training from Los Angeles. He has devoted the past two-and-a-half years to trying to locate the lost city described by Plato in his dialogues, the Timaeous and the Critias.

 

But when talking to reporters, Mr Sarmast was confident of the importance of his findings.

 

He said, "We cannot yet provide tangible proof in the form of bricks and mortar as the artefacts are still buried under several meters of sediment at a depth of 1,500 meters, but the evidence is now irrefutable."

 

Dr Teri Brewer, an expert in folklore at the University of Glamorgan, said discovery of these remains did not mean that the mythological Atlantis existed.

 

She said, "We await with interest what may appear... The fact someone can go after a legend and come up with an archaeological site doesn't necessarily mean the legend is proven."

 

Atlantis-hunters will be as surprised by the claims as Plato wrote of Atlantis as an island in the western sea, which has been widely interpreted to mean the Atlantic Ocean.

 

In June, there was speculation that satellite images of southern Spain revealed the remains of Atlantis.

 

Dr Rainer Kuehne thought the myth could refer to a coastal region flooded between 800 and 500 BC.

 

I bet they send a robotic camera down there and they spot Spongebob it ends up being some stupid promotion for the Spongebob movie.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Well, I'm eagerly awaiting any proof. I think it would be awesome if they found man-made walls, and Atlantis, down there.

[Guest SideFXs]

Robert Sarmast was just on Coast to Coast, with George Noory. It sounds like Atlantis has been found. You can click on this link to see the sonar imagery.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4011545.stm

 

The proportions, from the sonar image match exactly, to the descriptions, from Plato. Sarmast said, some of the man-made structures have been disburbed due to plate-tectonics and earthquakes.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Cool.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I always figured Atlantis was Mexico.

 

Aztlan = Atlantis

 

Plus all the pyramids and stuff could've been brought over from seafaring Egyptians.

[Swift Terror 0]

speaking of pyramids and the Americas, an interesting fact:

 

 

The Great Pyramid in Egypt has a slope angle of approx. 51 degrees. No other ancient pyramid on Earth was able to be built with that angle....

 

except for one in Central America.

[starvenger 0]

It is funny how it's so relatively close to where they found Troy. Or maybe not, I guess.

[The Czech Republic 0]

speaking of pyramids and the Americas, an interesting fact:

 

 

The Great Pyramid in Egypt has a slope angle of approx. 51 degrees. No other ancient pyramid on Earth was able to be built with that angle....

 

except for one in Central America.

Hmm. Interesting. Do you think there could be any relation between the words "Aztec, Aztlan" and "Atlantic, Atlantis"? Just a crazy theory.

[2GOLD 0]

speaking of pyramids and the Americas, an interesting fact:

 

 

The Great Pyramid in Egypt has a slope angle of approx. 51 degrees. No other ancient pyramid on Earth was able to be built with that angle....

 

except for one in Central America.

Hmm. Interesting. Do you think there could be any relation between the words "Aztec, Aztlan" and "Atlantic, Atlantis"? Just a crazy theory.

 

I think it's entirely possible. I mean, obviously not everyone in the highly advanced city would have died. So it is possible that some of the knowledge could have survived and been transferred.

 

Of course, this all comes under the assumption Atlantis existed. Which I do believe although the location has always been the question mark.

[Golgo 13 0]

I never really thought Atlantis existed, or at least, not what Plato described. There was always the lingering thought just because of the way it's been popularized, but otherwise I think Plato was just cobbling together similar folk stories from around the area and putting an exaggerated fanciful spin on it.

 

Anyway, there is the theory that when Atlantis went down, some of the citizens escaped and dispersed throughout the world, bringing their knowledge with them.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

That theory becomes much more interesting when you consider that many old races, like the Aztecs, the Egyptians if I'm not mistaken, and a few others, claimed to have learned all their culture from white-skinned, bearded Gods who came from the sea.

[Guest JMA]

If true, then this is really awesome. I never would've imagined Atlantis would actually be found.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I always assumed that Atlantis was probably Thera, but this is certainly interesting.

[Guest BrokenWings]

Definitely an exciting find. Hopefully we get more information soon.

[Vyce 0]

So how long before this guy begins a war with the surface-dwellers?

 

[Guest SP-1]

So how long before this guy begins a war with the surface-dwellers?

 

That mental image made my day.

[spiny norman 0]

I always assumed that Atlantis was probably Thera, but this is certainly interesting.

As did I.

 

I guess we'll find things out soon enough.

[The Czech Republic 0]

That theory becomes much more interesting when you consider that many old races, like the Aztecs, the Egyptians if I'm not mistaken, and a few others, claimed to have learned all their culture from white-skinned, bearded Gods who came from the sea.

I'm not certain that the Egyptians did, but the Aztecs with Quetzalcoatl, definitely. The Egyptians of that time were lighter-skinned than today's Arabs, correct? I assumed they were more Meditterranean, and certainly not African. I'm not sure though, I'll have to look it up.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Upon closer inspection, it seems that the Mayas and the Incas, in addition to the Aztecs, claimed to have learned their culture from the afore-mentioned white-skinned bearded Gods from the sea.

 

The Egyptians, however, told Plato that they learned their culture from the old ones who came before.

 

Ineresting stuff, if nothing else.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

That theory becomes much more interesting when you consider that many old races, like the Aztecs, the Egyptians if I'm not mistaken, and a few others, claimed to have learned all their culture from white-skinned, bearded Gods who came from the sea.

I'm not certain that the Egyptians did, but the Aztecs with Quetzalcoatl, definitely. The Egyptians of that time were lighter-skinned than today's Arabs, correct? I assumed they were more Meditterranean, and certainly not African. I'm not sure though, I'll have to look it up.

The Egyptians were more of a reddish colour. Both the Mesopotamians and the black Africans appear much different to the Egyptians themselves in Egyptian art. I do not have much of a background in Egyptian mythology (I know even less about Aztec mythology, but I know the Quetzacoatl story), but most of their gods took the form of animals. The Egyptian creation god, Atum who rose out of the Nile and gave birth to Egypt, took the form of a snake.

 

Osiris, who brought the Egyptians their culture, does take the form of a man in the standard pharoah outfit.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I think Quetzacoatl was supposed to be a winged serpent.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I think Quetzacoatl was supposed to be a winged serpent.

Quetzacoatl also took the form of a fair-skinned bearded man.

[Ravenbomb 0]

 

I was wondering where he went