Report: New Iran Missiles...

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Exiles: Iran Making Missiles That Could Hit Europe

 

The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), which has in the past given accurate information on some of Iran's nuclear facilities, said Tehran was working on missiles with a range of 1,600 to 1,900 miles, capable of hitting cities such as Berlin.

 

Iran denies any intention of making long-range ballistic missiles and says its existing medium-range missiles are purely for deterrence.

 

The NCRI told reporters Iran was carrying out research, testing and making the Ghadr 101 and Ghadr 110 missiles, comparable to advanced Scud E missiles, at the Hemmat Missile Industries Complex.

 

Ghadr means value or merit in Farsi and Shab-e Ghadr refers to the night the Koran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad.

 

The NCRI is a coalition of exiled opposition groups fiercely opposed to Iran's clerical rulers. The State Department lists the NCRI and its armed wing, the People's Mujahideen, as a terrorist organization.

 

The exiles also said Tehran had in August tested a Shahab-4 missile with a range of 1,200 to 1,900 miles, depending on the weight of the warhead. Shahab means meteor in Farsi.

 

Iran has acknowledged it can make large numbers of medium-range Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of hitting Israel or U.S. bases in the Gulf, but has repeatedly denied Israeli accusations it is developing Shahab-4.

 

"Militarily speaking, by obtaining long-range and medium-range missiles, the clerics are trying to put many regions of the world, including all of Europe, within their range," NCRI's Ali Safavi told reporters.

 

The NCRI acknowledged that the missile programs did not contravene international law. It provided site maps and detailed explanations but had no blueprints of the work.

 

Safavi also said Iran's Shahid Karimi Industrial Group was pursuing nuclear and chemical warheads, but he gave few details.

 

Last month Secretary of State Colin Powell suggested Iran was working to fit missiles with nuclear warheads but Iran says its atomic plants are solely for power generation.

 

Earlier this week the United Nations' nuclear watchdog decided against referring Iran to the Security Council after Tehran agreed to freeze all activities which could be used to make bomb-grade material.

 

Source: THIS IS CNN~!

 

1) Add another to the list of reasons that you don't want to live in Europe.

 

2) That whole WAR ON TERROR~!! thing doesn't seem to be doing its job, say, stopping the terror.

 

In all honesty, due to the government screwing up about finding evidence regarding mass weaponry in Iraq, that gave them a tougher chance to prove that Iran had such capability. In searching for the link to this story on CNN (I can't find it on the main CNN site, I saw it on Netscape) I stumbled upon this:

 

Wrong evidence on Iraq sets tougher standard for Iran

[Guest Cerebus]

Luckily, we can all breathe a deep sigh of relief that the IAEA has a case of limp dick that an entire bottle of viagra couldn't solve.

 

I actually blogged about this a few days ago. This is going to get worse before it gets better (if it ever does).

[edotherocket 0]

Pardon my ignorance but why would Iran even want to bomb Berlin?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

because they can.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

 

Because they can?

 

Padon my potential lack of tact, but the war on terror can't be stopped. Since 9/11, everyone is now afraid of everything, including but not limited to their own shadows. I can't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Guest Cerebus]

Pardon my ignorance but why would Iran even want to bomb Berlin?

Despite what you might think, most Muslims don't hold Europe in exactly high esteem, no matter how much they roll over and lick their boots. Don't forget, it was EUROPEAN imperialism that created the modern middle east and many of the wonderful problems we have today.

[Guest INXS]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

[AndrewTS 0]

Pardon my ignorance but why would Iran even want to bomb Berlin?

Despite what you might think, most Muslims don't hold Europe in exactly high esteem, no matter how much they roll over and lick their boots. Don't forget, it was EUROPEAN imperialism that created the modern middle east and many of the wonderful problems we have today.

If Iran hit a neutral, civilized, democratic, freedom-loving nation like Germany it would really hurt their case, though.

[Guest Cerebus]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

I would assume you actually meant that since you are, after all, an idiot.

 

If Iran hit a neutral, civilized, democratic, freedom-loving nation like Germany it would really hurt their case, though.

 

What case? Since when did the Iranian mullahs care about convincing anybody of anything? Hell, one Iranian president casually talked about nuclear exchange with Israel by saying that Israel was a tiny country with such a tiny population in comparison with Iran, so how much damage could they actually do? You're talking about a country whose official media puts out more vile anti-semitism and anti-Americanism that you would ever believe, stuff that puts the KKK's (the organization not the poster) "informative" pamphlets and websites to shame.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

That's because you're a dumb alcholic fuck.

[Guest Jason]

“Source: CNN”. Can you say propaganda? Please, until Bush gives over his Nuclear weapons, no country on the planet should listen to a word he says on the matter. Why should he say Iran can’t have them, yet he can build all he wants? Fact of the matter is, Bush is invading nations, yet he gets away with it. If Iran did the exact same, Bush would be firing missiles right left and centre.

 

Europe has negotiated with Iran to halt their uranium enrichment programme, and I’m confident in my leader’s abilities to gain a peaceful resolution of this situation. If Iran are pointing weapons at us (which they aren’t) then that’s are problem, and something we’ll deal with. We’re setting the benchmark and showing the world that bombing the hell out of a place is not always the answer. Look at how bad the world’s gotten since Bush invaded Iraq, someone try and say the world’s a safer place because of it.

 

End of the day; remember the “45 minute” WMD’s Iraq had, according the Bush’s intelligence. That turned out to a load of shite just to convince people that invading Iraq and taking their oil were right. The ‘power of nightmares’ has been in the Bush arsenal since day one, and he’ll keep on using it until he’s out of office. I'm just happy I live in a Union that is equipped to protect itself from an outside threat, and one that believes in democracy in it's true form.

 

Add another to the list of reasons that you don't want to live in Europe.

 

Another reason? I can assure you this isn't even a reason, the EU combined is more powerful in ever way than America, so if Iran actually attacked Europe, which they obviously wouldn't because it doesn't take a genius take figure out that you don't attack countries that against bombing the shit out of you.

 

If you would like to have a quick look and the recently composed list of the world most desirable countries to live, which takes all aspects of life into account you'll see America finished 27th, with almost every single European state above it.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Did INXS take out a second name or something?

[Guest Cerebus]

Now you wonder why I'd perfer to blog?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Oh come on Cereb. Why would you want to leave all this? Admit it, you need your daily INXS fix.

 

And what's the big deal with Iran? They're probably making those rockets so their people can have affordable energy...

[Guest BDC]

Mmmm, troll.

 

 

Like kkk said, the Iranians just want to use the rockets to power their cities. I mean, if you contain the power of one of those explosions in Berlin, you could power Iran for years!

[therealworldschampion 0]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

 

Don't you have money to go steal from your girlfriend?

[Justice 0]

“Source: CNN”. Can you say propaganda? Please, until Bush gives over his Nuclear weapons, no country on the planet should listen to a word he says on the matter. Why should he say Iran can’t have them, yet he can build all he wants? Fact of the matter is, Bush is invading nations, yet he gets away with it. If Iran did the exact same, Bush would be firing missiles right left and centre.

This would be a valid point... if we were a hardline theocracy that has serious links to Islamic Terrorism and extremism. Nice try, but to say that Iran is a more trustworthy government than the US when it comes to nuclear missiles is far from correct.

 

Europe has negotiated with Iran to halt their uranium enrichment programme, and I’m confident in my leader’s abilities to gain a peaceful resolution of this situation.If Iran are pointing weapons at us (which they aren’t) then that’s are problem, and something we’ll deal with.

 

 

Excuse me if I'm not.

 

We’re setting the benchmark and showing the world that bombing the hell out of a place is not always the answer. Look at how bad the world’s gotten since Bush invaded Iraq, someone try and say the world’s a safer place because of it.

 

You mean like your fantastic work of diplomacy in Darfur? Yeah, for real. Why invade when we can throw empty threats for possible consideration for action against these brutes?

 

Great benchmark there, bud.

 

End of the day; remember the “45 minute” WMD’s Iraq had, according the Bush’s intelligence.

 

Actually, that was everyone's intelligence. Just so you know.

 

That turned out to a load of shite just to convince people that invading Iraq and taking their oil were right.

 

Why is it that we've always taken their oil? Where the hell are we hiding it? Along with all the Jews that didn't die in the Holocaust and the Cambodians that didn't die under the Khymer Rouge?

 

The ‘power of nightmares’ has been in the Bush arsenal since day one, and he’ll keep on using it until he’s out of office. I'm just happy I live in a Union that is equipped to protect itself from an outside threat, and one that believes in democracy in it's true form.

 

This is a joke, right? France nominated a Neo-facist for Prime Minister. Germany is so under the grip of a minority party in the Greens that they can't do anything without checking it out to make sure it appeals to the smallest part of the electorate. Italy is a political joke. No offense, but Europe is in a bigger political quagmire than the US is right now.

 

Another reason? I can assure you this isn't even a reason, the EU combined is more powerful in ever way than America, so if Iran actually attacked Europe, which they obviously wouldn't because it doesn't take a genius take figure out that you don't attack countries that against bombing the shit out of you.

 

Okay, this is a joke. The UK's military could be taken out, right now, but a 15 ship Carrier Group. No offense, but you don't have shit in comparision, and economically, we are still a bit more powerful than you all, especially considering the European Economy has been lackluster for years now.

 

The second half of that sentence doesn't even make proper sense. I don't even know what sort of idiotic notion you are trying to put together, 'genius'.

 

If you would like to have a quick look and the recently composed list of the world most desirable countries to live, which takes all aspects of life into account you'll see America finished 27th, with almost every single European state above it.

 

We took 13th. We were only beaten out by small European countries, and considering we have around 200 Million more people than ANY other country in Europe, I'd say we win.

 

So, in conclusion, shut up and read a book.

[Guest INXS]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

That's because you're a dumb alcholic fuck.

Great retort. I have no idea where you pulled the "alcholic" from.

[Guest INXS]

Did INXS take out a second name or something?

Nah, just another sane person around here.

[Guest INXS]

Mmmm, troll.

 

 

Like kkk said, the Iranians just want to use the rockets to power their cities. I mean, if you contain the power of one of those explosions in Berlin, you could power Iran for years!

Yes! That's it! Anyone who opposses your view must be trolling!

[Guest INXS]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

 

Don't you have money to go steal from your girlfriend?

Re-read my LSD thread pal and tryto understand.

 

:sigh:

[Prime Time Andrew Doyle 0]

INXS, You do realise that you could edit the first post instead of posting 3 other posts in 6 minutes.

[Golgo 13 0]

America has missiles capabable of hitting European cities - i'm more concerned about them than Iran at this point.

That's because you're a dumb alcholic fuck.

Great retort. I have no idea where you pulled the "alcholic" from.

Considering the money you took was used to buy booze...

 

People resort to mockery because it's not like anything else gets through your skull.

 

I'm sure America is going to launch missiles at European cities, it only makes sense for someone like George W. HITLER~ to do!

 

If you think that's the case, you really are deluded. We may dislike some of these countries, they may dislike us, but we're still each other's allies at the end of the day despite differing on some ideologies. Considering the collective world could take us out in one fell swoop if we were to even consider this, this wouldn't be a wise thing to do and truly only an anti-American fool would think we, for even one second, would do it.

[Vyce 0]

Mmmm, troll.

 

 

Like kkk said, the Iranians just want to use the rockets to power their cities.  I mean, if you contain the power of one of those explosions in Berlin, you could power Iran for years!

Yes! That's it! Anyone who opposses your view must be trolling!

No. It's more like anyone who posts moronic tripe, such as you, is going to be justly ridiculed for doing so.

 

And you just don't get it do you? You keep digging that hole a little bigger with every single post.

[Guest PlatinumBoy]

I'm just happy I live in a Union that is equipped to protect itself from an outside threat, and one that believes in democracy in it's true form.

Wait... which European country believes in Democracy in it's true form? Are you a confused Greek philosopher that took a 2300 year dirt nap? You realize NO country has a democracy, never has, never will--and America is still closer than any European country to what one would be.

[AndrewTS 0]

I'm just happy I live in a Union that is equipped to protect itself from an outside threat, and one that believes in democracy in it's true form.

Wait... which European country believes in Democracy in it's true form? Are you a confused Greek philosopher that took a 2300 year dirt nap? You realize NO country has a democracy, never has, never will--and America is still closer than any European country to what one would be.

Maybe this is his idea of a Democracy:

 

List of Members of Parliament by Party

 

Conservative (163)

Democratic Unionist (6)

Independent (1)

Independent Conservative (1)

Labour (407)

Liberal Democrat (55)

Plaid Cymru (4)

Respect (1)

Scottish National (5)

Sinn Fein (4)

Social Democratic & Labour Party (3)

Ulster Unionist (5)

Speaker and Deputies (4)

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

As much of a troll as INXS might be, I always see the same people offering nothing in the thread but rather taking potshots at him for nothing. At least he speaks on the subject at hand, those that berate him do not.

[Guest Jason]

It seems our local news network was wrong about that, thats my bad. The Britsh Army is currently the most intensely trained Army in the worls, they're not a huge army but they don't pretend to be. Everything thet do they do right, unlike the U.S Army who have actually killed quite a lot of British soldiers, there have been no friendly fire deaths on the British side.

 

The European Economy is new and is thriving in it's growth at the moment, America has a powerful economy yes, but your currency is worth shit of here, at the moment it's 1.9 dollars to the pound, and it's 1.4 Euro's to the pound so both currencies are both currently stronger than the Dollar.

 

Here are a list of the top 10 countries to live in.

 

1 Ireland

2 Switzerland

3 Norway

4 Luxembourg

5 Sweden

6 Australia

7 Iceland

8 Italy

9 Denmark

10 Spain

 

With obvious exception of Australia, all of these Nations are E.U countires.

 

The thing with European politics is that they are still trying to make things better, France's politics are horrible I'll give you that, the main reason they were against the War is that Chirac had an illegal trading program with Iraq for ages (who's breaking U.N codes there?)

 

The E.U policy of diplomacy and appeasment may be naive at times, but it's better than jumping to conclusions, sure America went into Iraq on false information, personally I don't blame Bush for that, but rather his Admin, Bush didn't actually gather that intelligence himself, he just told people what he was told, he's not smart enough to muster much else.

 

Sometimes I like the way Germany works, it really seems like their people have a real say in what happens, while this makes the country politically weak, people in Germany lead good lives, I know a few Germans and they love their home.

 

When I think of great places to live in Europe I do think of mainly scandinavians countries, their culture really interests me, I love the uniques outlook they have on life. France, I would never live in France, I would in Geramny though, Italy, they have always been a bit of a mess politically. It's the smaller European cultures that have booming economies, maybe not compared to America, but peoples lives there are simpler and generally a lot happier.

 

I agree Britain is a pretty shitty place to live, although Scotland would have been higher if viewed as an independant nation, not too much higher though because of the amazing lives people have in our nothern areas.

[mister foozel 0]

well, if they want to do it bad enough, theyre going to

 

the war on terror cant be won at this point, main focus these days should be on security within ones own country, before we all get blown up

[Guest Crazy Dan]

Well I think the country that Iran would hit would be Isreal, as history has shown how much that region loves Isreal. As for being able to hit European countries, it might have to do with the fear that if Iraq is finally stabalized (which hopefully it does), Iran becomes the next country that will garner the attention of the coalition. So, if Iran has these missles, they have a defense mechanism which they might threaten to use if anyone tried to attack. I am concerned about Iran developing nukes for these missles, as no country should ever have to go through a nuclear attack and the aftermath.

 

What I do believe about Iran is this. When the US embassy was overran in 1979 under the leadership of The Ayotollah, there was many young students/men who were very religious and had a deep hatred of the Western Devil. Well, many of these men who had children, ended up being killed by Iraq's attack on Iran, which lasted about 8 years and left millions dead. But along those killed, were the anti-Western followers who help overthrow the Shah. Because of this, many children did not grow up with these views being taught to them. Many of the younger generation, from what I understand, do not have this hatred that their parents had. They want to relations with the West. They might like to wear blue jeans, buy CD's, use the Internet, etc. They also don't want Islam to be the central part of their lives, like it was for the generation killed by Saddam. The problem with Iran are the Mullahs and religious leaders running the country, who still view the US and Isreal as the devil. They are the ones who would use weapons, such as the missles, and not care if they were bombed back, becuase they believe they are going to heaven. When there was elections held a little while ago in Iraq, the people elected a Moderate who, if he had been given the chance, might have been able to bring change to Iran. But the Mullahs of the country hamstung his efforts, which in turn upset the people, many who happened to be the same age as their parents were back in 1979. Iran to me has people who want to change and do not like living under the conditions they live under.

 

Maybe I am totally off base, but this is a country to me, which has conditions that remind me of Iran back in the 70's. A group of pissed of younger people who do not like the government that they feel is oppressing them. Their choice for President was never given any chance to do anything. I think that there might be an invasion plan in the works for Iran, I think, but this is a case where the people might be more willing to do the work themselves, becuase I think many want a more Western style of life and given the support, might be willing to do it.

 

That is just an idea, but I do feel many Iranians probably wish that their government was different and that they had more freedoms that are suppressed thanks to Islamic law, another example of why I am for keeping Church seperate from state. I just find it funny how the attitutudes of the Iranians really changed due to Saddam's unecessary war.