kkk nfl pick 'em Week 17

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Let's make the deadline Sunday, Jan. 2, 2005, at 9 a.m...

 

(3.5) Cincinnati at Philadelphia

Cleveland at Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit at Tennessee

Green Bay at Chicago (3.5)

Miami at Baltimore (11.5)

(4.5) Minnesota at Washington

New Orleans at Carolina (7.5)

(3.5) N.Y. Jets at St. Louis

Pittsburgh at Buffalo (8.5)

San Francisco at New England (14.5)

Atlanta at Seattle (5.5)

Tampa Bay at Arizona (3.5)

Indianapolis at Denver (8.5)

(3.5) Jacksonville at Oakland

(3.5) Kansas City at San Diego

Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5)

 

Cincinnati (Swift Terror 8-8) d Philadelphia (MD 2020 5-11) 5-4

CIN: CIN/HOU/DET/GB/BAL/MIN/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/ATL/TB/DEN/JAX/KC/DAL/28 (ep)

PHI: CIN/HOU/DET/CHI/BAL/MIN/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/JAX/KC/NYG/24 (ep)

DIFF: GB/CHI, ATL/SEA, TB/AZ, DAL/NYG, 28/24

 

Cleveland (SFA Jack 10-6) d Houston (Bored 10-6) 11-10

CLE: CIN/CLE/TEN/GB/MIA/WAS/NO/NYJ/BUF/SF/SEA/AZ/IND/OAK/SD/NYG/12 (pm)

HOU: CIN/CLE/TEN/GB/MIA/WAS/NO/NYJ/BUF/SF/ATL/TB/IND/OAK/KC/NYG/23

DIFF: SEA/ATL, AZ/TB, SD/KC

 

Tennessee (Chuck Woolery 10-6) d Detroit (Bravesfan 9-7) 8-5

DET: PHI/HOU/TEN/CHI/BAL/WAS/CAR/STL/BUF/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/OAK/SD/NYG/20 (ep)

TEN: PHI/HOU/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/NO/NYJ/PIT/SF/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/DAL/21

DIFF: CHI/GB, BAL/MIA, WAS/MIN, CAR/NO, STL/NYJ, BUF/PIT, NE/SF, AZ/TB, DEN/IND, OAK/JAX, NYG/DAL

 

Green Bay (Vitamin X 12-4) d Chicago (Agent of Oblivion 7-9) 8-5

GB: PHI/HOU/DET/GB/MIA/WAS/NO/NYJ/PIT/SF/SEA/AZ/IND/JAX/SD/DAL/20

CHI: PHI/HOU/TEN/CHI/BAL/WAS/CAR/STL/BUF/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/OAK/KC/NYG/17 (ep)

DIFF: DET/TEN, GB/CHI, MIA/BAL, NO/CAR, NYJ/STL, PIT/BUF, SF/NE, IND/DEN, JAX/OAK, SD/KC, DAL/NYG

 

Baltimore (Dr. Tom 8-8) d Miami (Spaceman Spiff 4-12) 8-8 + TB (23-30=7/13-23=13)

MIA: CIN/HOU/TEN/GB/BAL/WAS/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/TB/DEN/JAX/SD/NYG/10

BAL: PHI/HOU/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/NO/STL/PIT/NE/ATL/TB/IND/JAX/SD/DAL/23*

DIFF: CIN/PHI, BAL/MIA, WAS/MIN, CAR/NO, NYJ/STL, BUF/PIT, SEA/ATL, DEN/IND, NYG/DAL

*From Tom's TSM column

 

Washington (Human Fly 4-12) d Minnesota (La Parka Marka 7-9) 6-3

MIN: CIN/HOU/DET/CHI/BAL/MIN/NO/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/KC/DAL/28

WAS: PHI/HOU/TEN/CHI/BAL/WAS/CAR/STL/BUF/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/OAK/SD/NYG/17 (pm)

DIFF: CIN/PHI, DET/TEN, MIN/WAS, NO/CAR, NYJ/STL, TB/AZ, IND/DEN, JAX/OAK, KC/SD, DAL/NYG, 28/17

 

Carolina (Fazzle 4-11-1) d New Orleans (Flyboy 8-8) 5-4

NO: CIN/HOU/DET/GB/BAL/WAS/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/ATL/TB/IND/OAK/KC/DAL/27 (pm)

CAR: PHI/CLE/TEN/CHI/BAL/MIN/CAR/STL/BUF/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/DAL/29

DIFF: CIN/PHI, HOU/CLE, DET/TEN, GB/CHI, WAS/MIN, NYJ/STL, ATL/SEA, OAK/JAX, KC/SD

 

N.Y. Jets (Gert T 6-10) d St. Louis (Cerebus 316 9-6-1) 7-7 + TB (20-29=9/17-32=15)

NYJ: CIN/HOU/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/CAR/NYJ/PIT/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/OAK/KC/DAL/20

STL: CIN/HOU/DET/GB/BAL/MIN/CAR/STL/BUF/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/JAX/KC/NYG/17

DIFF: TEN/DET, MIA/BAL, NYJ/STL, PIT/BUF, OAK/JAX, DAL/NYG, 20/17

 

Buffalo (Bob Barron 10-6) d Pittsburgh (Tyler McClelland 8-8) 8-5

PIT: CIN/HOU/DET/GB/MIA/WAS/CAR/NYJ/PIT/NE/SEA/TB/IND/OAK/KC/DAL/17

BUF: PHI/CLE/TEN/GB/BAL/MIN/NO/NYJ/PIT/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/NYG/20

DIFF: CIN/PHI, HOU/CLE, DET/TEN, MIA/BAL, WAS/MIN, CAR/NO, OAK/JAX, KC/SD, DAL/NYG

 

New England (nl5xsk1 9-7) d San Francisco (Agent Bond 34 8-8) 9-6

SF: PHI/HOU/TEN/GB/BAL/WAS/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/NYG/10

NE: CIN/HOU/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/CAR/NYJ/BUF/SF/ATL/TB/DEN/JAX/SD/DAL/23

DIFF: PHI/CIN, BAL/MIA, WAS/MIN, NE/SF, SEA/ATL, IND/DEN, NYG/DAL

 

Atlanta (Lightning Flik 13-3) d Seattle (Mr. Rant 7-9) 9-5

ATL: CIN/CLE/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/NO/NYJ/PIT/NE/ATL/TB/IND/OAK/SD/DAL/24 (pm)

SEA: CIN/HOU/DET/CHI/BAL/MIN/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/AZ/DEN/JAX/KC/NYG/28 (ep)

DIFF: CLE/HOU, TEN/DET, GB/CHI, MIA/BAL, NO/CAR, PIT/BUF, ATL/SEA, TB/AZ, IND/DEN, OAK/JAX, SD/KC, DAL/NYG, 24/28

 

Arizona (Vern Gagne 11-5) d Tampa Bay (Starvenger 7-9) 8-8 + TB (20-7=13/16-12=4)

TB: CIN/HOU/TEN/GB/BAL/MIN/CAR/NYJ/BUF/SF/SEA/TB/DEN/JAX/SD/NYG/20

AZ: PHI/HOU/TEN/GB/BAL/WAS/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/ATL/AZ/IND/JAX/SD/NYG/16 (pm)

DIFF: CIN/PHI, MIN/WAS, SF/NE, SEA/ATL, TB/AZ, DEN/IND, 20/16

 

Denver (Canadian Chris 10-6) d Indianapolis (No Cal Mike 8-8) 7-5

IND: PHI/HOU/DET/GB/BAL/WAS/CAR/STL/BUF/NE/ATL/TB/IND/OAK/SD/DAL/31

DEN: PHI/HOU/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/NO/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/NYG/27

DIFF: DET/TEN, BAL/MIA, WAS/MIN, CAR/NO, STL/NYJ, ATL/SEA, OAK/JAX, DAL/NYG, 31-27

 

Oakland (The Bitch 9-7) d Jacksonville (Always Pissed Off 4-12) 7-4

JAX: CIN/HOU/TEN/GB/BAL/MIN/CAR/NYJ/BUF/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/KC/DAL/10 (pm)

OAK: PHI/HOU/DET/GB/BAL/MIN/NO/STL/BUF/NE/ATL/TB /IND/JAX/SD/NYG/24

DIFF: CIN/PHI, TEN/DET, CAR/NO, NYJ/STL, SEA/ATL, KC/SD, DAL/NYG

 

San Diego (Slasher Flick 8-8) d Kansas City (No Good Nick 5-11) 9-8

KC: CIN/HOU/DET/GB/MIA/MIN/NO/NYJ/PIT/NE/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/NYG/18

SD: CIN/CLE/DET/GB/MIA/MIN/CAR/STL/PIT/SF/SEA/TB/IND/JAX/SD/DAL/28

DIFF: HOU/CLE, NO/CAR, NYJ/STL, NE/SF, NYG/DAL

 

N.Y. Giants (Cartman 10-6) d Dallas (BX 7-9) 9-6

DAL: PHI/HOU/DET/CHI/MIA/MIN/CAR/NYJ/PIT/SF/ /AZ/IND/JAX/SD/DAL/24

NYG: CIN/HOU/TEN/GB/MIA/MIN/NO/STL/BUF/SF/SEA/TB/DEN/OAK/KC/NYG/25

DIFF: PHI/CIN, DET/TEN, CHI/GB, CAR/NO, NYJ/STL, PIT/BUF, /SEA, AZ/TB, IND/DEN, JAX/OAK, SD/KC, DAL/NYG, 24/25

[Agent_Bond34 0]

49ers - 10

 

(3.5) Cincinnati at Philadelphia - Philadelphia

Cleveland at Houston (10.5) - Houston

(3.5) Detroit at Tennessee - Tennessee

Green Bay at Chicago (3.5) - Green Bay

Miami at Baltimore (11.5) - Baltimore

(4.5) Minnesota at Washington - Washington (you know the theme)

New Orleans at Carolina (7.5) - Carolina

(3.5) N.Y. Jets at St. Louis - N.Y. Jets

Pittsburgh at Buffalo (8.5) - Buffalo

San Francisco at New England (14.5) - New England (14.5? holy fuck)

Atlanta at Seattle (5.5) - Seattle

Tampa Bay at Arizona (3.5) - Tampa Bay

Indianapolis at Denver (8.5) - Indianapolis

(3.5) Jacksonville at Oakland - Jacksonville

(3.5) Kansas City at San Diego - San Diego

Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5) - N.Y. Giants

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Wow... I go from 5-1 or 5-2 I forget which, to 7-8.... here's hoping I finish even stevens.

 

(3.5) Cincinnati at Philadelphia

Cleveland at Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit at Tennessee

Green Bay at Chicago (3.5)

Miami at Baltimore (11.5)

(4.5) Minnesota at Washington

New Orleans at Carolina (7.5)

(3.5) N.Y. Jets at St. Louis

Pittsburgh at Buffalo (8.5)

San Francisco at New England (14.5)

Atlanta at Seattle (5.5)

Tampa Bay at Arizona (3.5)

Indianapolis at Denver (8.5)

(3.5) Jacksonville at Oakland

(3.5) Kansas City at San Diego

Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5)

 

TB: 28

[CanadianChris 0]

This has to be the toughest week of the year, just because you never know which of the playoff teams that can't improve their position are going to come out and play hard for pride's sake.

 

Picks to come...

[Bored 0]

Texans - 23 points

 

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Tennessee

Green Bay

Miami

Washington

New Orleans

N.Y. Jets

Buffalo

San Francisco

Atlanta

Tampa Bay

Indianapolis

Oakland

Kansas City

N.Y. Giants

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Miami - 10

 

(3.5) Cincinnati at Philadelphia

Cleveland at Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit at Tennessee

Green Bay at Chicago (3.5)

Miami at Baltimore (11.5)

(4.5) Minnesota at Washington

New Orleans at Carolina (7.5)

(3.5) N.Y. Jets at St. Louis

Pittsburgh at Buffalo (8.5)

San Francisco at New England (14.5)

Atlanta at Seattle (5.5)

Tampa Bay at Arizona (3.5)

Indianapolis at Denver (8.5)

(3.5) Jacksonville at Oakland

(3.5) Kansas City at San Diego

Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5)

[LaParkaMarka 0]

Minnesota - 28

 

Cincinnati

Houston

Detroit

Chicago

Baltimore

Minnesota

New Orleans

N.Y. Jets

Buffalo

New England

Seattle

Tampa Bay

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

Kansas City

Dallas

[nl5xsk1 0]

New England

Tiebreaker: 27

 

Cincinnati

Houston

Tennessee

Green Bay

Miami

Minnesota

Carolina

N.Y. Jets

Buffalo

San Francisco

Atlanta

Tampa Bay

Denver

Jacksonville

San Diego

Dallas

[Guest Vitamin X]

Homefield advantage, here we come...

 

Green Bay will score 20

 

Philadelphia

Houston

Detroit

Green Bay

Miami

Washington

New Orleans

N.Y. Jets

Pittsburgh

San Francisco

Seattle

Arizona

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

San Diego

Dallas

[Lightning Flik 0]

Homefield advantage, here we come...

Meh. Not really dood. You see, even if I lose this week and we tie records wise, I still claim the bye since I've got the tiebreaker. So no, you don't have homefield advantage. I do.

Edited December 30, 2004 by Lightning Flik

[CanadianChris 0]

Homefield advantage, here we come...

Meh. Not really dood. You see, even if I lose this week and we tie records wise, I still claim the bye since I've got the tiebreaker. So no, you don't have homefield advantage. I do.

Would someone like to tell me what this "homefield advantage" is? It's not like anyone's significantly better than anyone else anyway.

[Lightning Flik 0]

Homefield advantage, here we come...

Meh. Not really dood. You see, even if I lose this week and we tie records wise, I still claim the bye since I've got the tiebreaker. So no, you don't have homefield advantage. I do.

Would someone like to tell me what this "homefield advantage" is? It's not like anyone's significantly better than anyone else anyway.

It means we get a + advantage to all our picks. Meaning you only need to be within the plus advantage and you still win. Like last year it was +2.

 

So like if you've got Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5), the person with homefield advantage actually gets Dallas at N.Y. Giants (4.5). Meaning that if they choose Dallas, they only need to get within 4.5. However, if they choose the Giants, its still 2.5. That's the purpose of homefield advantage during the playoffs. Its why I wanted it desperately.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I haven't heard kkk claim that you'd have the homefield advantage tiebreaker at all. And since you play an NFC opponent this week, and you lose and I win, then our overall and conference records would be tied, from what I saw.

 

I think the next tiebreaker would be record against common opponents.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

It means we get a + advantage to all our picks. Meaning you only need to be within the plus advantage and you still win. Like last year it was +2.

That's news to me, especially since there weren't point spreads last year.

 

And V-X is right regarding tie-breaker progression...

[Guest Vitamin X]

So then who owns the tiebreaker against common opponents? The only NFC team I think that's beat me this year is the Bears, I think. I know I also lost to the Titans and Texans, and my other loss was either the Jags or possibly the Lions.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Making me look up records and shit *grumble.*

 

If V-X wins and Flik loses, V-X gets the top seed. They didn't face-off in the regular season, and their Conference records will be tied at 9-3. V-X wins the common opponent tie-breaker 4-1 to 3-2.

 

V-X: Wins: CAR, NYG, DET, STL Losses: DET

FLIK: Wins: CAR, NYG, CAR Losses: STL, DET...

[nogoodnick 0]

(3.5) Cincinnati

Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit

Green Bay

Miami

(4.5) Minnesota

New Orleans

(3.5) N.Y. Jets

Pittsburgh

England (14.5)

Seattle (5.5)

Tampa Bay

Indianapolis

(3.5) Jacksonville

San Diego

N.Y. Giants (2.5)

 

tb:18

[Lightning Flik 0]

It means we get a + advantage to all our picks. Meaning you only need to be within the plus advantage and you still win. Like last year it was +2.

That's news to me, especially since there weren't point spreads last year.

 

And V-X is right regarding tie-breaker progression...

I was seeing how many people who've bought that. Apparently everyone.

 

And well fuck on the part of me tying VX. I want my bye dammit.

[Bored 0]

Looking at possible scenerios I'm in almost a must win situation to get a bye week. If I lose to sfajack and CanadianChris wins I'll end up the #3 seed as both will have a better conference record in a three-way tiebreak. So I need to win or have CC lose to get a bye week.

[Cartman 0]

Cincinnati

Houston

Tennessee

Green Bay

Miami

Minnesota

New Orleans

St. Louis

Buffalo

San Francisco

Seattle

Tampa Bay

Denver

Oakland

Kansas City

N.Y. Giants

 

25

[starvenger 0]

Let's see how much week 17 fucks me up...

 

(3.5) Cincinnati at Philadelphia

Cleveland at Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit at Tennessee ( Bil-ly Vol-ek clap clap clapclapclap, Bil-ly Vol-ek clap clap clapclapclap )

Green Bay at Chicago (3.5)

Miami at Baltimore (11.5)

(4.5) Minnesota at Washington

New Orleans at Carolina (7.5) (Hey, a game that means something to both teams. Whoda thunk it?)

(3.5) N.Y. Jets at St. Louis

Pittsburgh at Buffalo (8.5)

San Francisco at New England (14.5)

Atlanta at Seattle (5.5)

Tampa Bay at Arizona (3.5)

Indianapolis at Denver (8.5)

(3.5) Jacksonville at Oakland

(3.5) Kansas City at San Diego

Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5)

 

Tampa: 20

[Guest Vitamin X]

It means we get a + advantage to all our picks. Meaning you only need to be within the plus advantage and you still win. Like last year it was +2.

That's news to me, especially since there weren't point spreads last year.

 

And V-X is right regarding tie-breaker progression...

I was seeing how many people who've bought that. Apparently everyone.

 

And well fuck on the part of me tying VX. I want my bye dammit.

Oh, both of us have already clinched a first round bye due to being the top two teams in the NFC (and NFL for that matter), it's just a matter of who ends up #1.

 

Since the playoff system in our league is so wacky, it'd be a matter of pride for me to end up #1 (and thus homefield) after chasing you all season long.

[NoCalMike 0]

3.5) Cincinnati at Philadelphia

Cleveland at Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit at Tennessee

Green Bay at Chicago (3.5)

Miami at Baltimore (11.5)

(4.5) Minnesota at Washington

New Orleans at Carolina (7.5)

(3.5) N.Y. Jets at St. Louis

Pittsburgh at Buffalo (8.5)

San Francisco at New England (14.5)

Atlanta at Seattle (5.5)

Tampa Bay at Arizona (3.5)

Indianapolis at Denver (8.5)

(3.5) Jacksonville at Oakland

(3.5) Kansas City at San Diego

Dallas at N.Y. Giants (2.5)

 

 

Colts - 31

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Philadelphia

Houston (10.5)

(3.5) Detroit

Green Bay

Baltimore (11.5)

(4.5) Minnesota

New Orleans

St. Louis

Buffalo (8.5)

New England (14.5)

Atlanta

Tampa Bay

Indianapolis

(3.5) Jacksonville

San Diego

N.Y. Giants (2.5)

 

OAK 24

[Vern Gagne 0]

Who would be ahead if I win and V-X loses?

[Lightning Flik 0]

It means we get a + advantage to all our picks. Meaning you only need to be within the plus advantage and you still win. Like last year it was +2.

That's news to me, especially since there weren't point spreads last year.

 

And V-X is right regarding tie-breaker progression...

I was seeing how many people who've bought that. Apparently everyone.

 

And well fuck on the part of me tying VX. I want my bye dammit.

Oh, both of us have already clinched a first round bye due to being the top two teams in the NFC (and NFL for that matter), it's just a matter of who ends up #1.

 

Since the playoff system in our league is so wacky, it'd be a matter of pride for me to end up #1 (and thus homefield) after chasing you all season long.

You chasing me most season? I spent half of it chasing you, you spent the other half chasing me.

 

It'd be ironic if we'd end up tied. And we had to play for the NFC Title Game. And the winner won the KKK Bowl.

[CanadianChris 0]

Is that the Alanis Morissette definition of ironic?

 

Denver - 27

 

Philadelphia

Houston

Tennessee

Green Bay

Miami

Minnesota

New Orleans

N.Y. Jets

Buffalo

New England

Seattle

Tampa Bay

Indianapolis

Jacksonville

San Diego

N.Y. Giants

[Guest Cerebus]

Cincinnati

Houston

Detroit

Green Bay

Baltimore

Minnesota

Carolina

St. Louis

Buffalo

New England

Seattle

Arizona

Denver

Jacksonville

Kansas City

N.Y. Giants

 

St. Louis scores 17 points.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

There's no way I can make the playoffs, is there?

[Vern Gagne 0]

It means we get a + advantage to all our picks. Meaning you only need to be within the plus advantage and you still win. Like last year it was +2.

That's news to me, especially since there weren't point spreads last year.

 

And V-X is right regarding tie-breaker progression...

I was seeing how many people who've bought that. Apparently everyone.

 

And well fuck on the part of me tying VX. I want my bye dammit.

Oh, both of us have already clinched a first round bye due to being the top two teams in the NFC (and NFL for that matter), it's just a matter of who ends up #1.

 

Since the playoff system in our league is so wacky, it'd be a matter of pride for me to end up #1 (and thus homefield) after chasing you all season long.

You chasing me most season? I spent half of it chasing you, you spent the other half chasing me.

 

It'd be ironic if we'd end up tied. And we had to play for the NFC Title Game. And the winner won the KKK Bowl.

No it wouldn't. You'd have the best record, and be favored to win the KKK Bowl.